Open 769: Venrob's PYP X/Y (Town Wins)

[Sujimichi]

Apologies, as I have had limited time this weekend. I will be back to look over everything tomorrow.

[TheWizard]

Kerset (3):

rb, Wooper, AaronFrost

AaronFrost (2):

Xayah, Sirfetchd

nomnomnom (1):

Luca Blight

Billy Pilgrim (1):

skitter30

Flubbernugget (1):

nomnomnom

Sujimichi (1):

Billy Pilgrim

rb (1):

Kerset

Not Voting (4):

Something_Smart, Flubbernugget, PMysterious, Sujimichi

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-11-03 00:30:00)

[Something_Smart]

Both rb and Kerset are arguing in super bad faith here which is really throwing me for a loop.

[Luca Blight]

@Luca: opinions on Kerset, since they're now the largest wagon in the game?

I had just said a few posts before that Kerset is a slot that I could see being scum but I don’t want to lose sight of Nom atm. Speaking of which, what do you think of Nom?

And could you also answer my question in 368?

[Luca Blight]

It feels weird how after I’d apparently convinced Fetchd I was scum he has completely stopped pushing me and is now voting someone else. I initially thought he was being a stubborn townie, but now I’m starting to think he never believed in that SR in the first place.

[Luca Blight]

SS, you’re the second-highest poster in this game and yet I hardly know where you stand on anyone. Can you give a quick overview of your reads?

[Something_Smart]

leantown: {Kerset}
null: {wooper, Sirfetchd, Sujimichi, skitter30, nomnomnom, AaronFrost, Flubbernugget, Billy Pilgrim, rb, Luca Blight, Xayah, PMysterious}

[Flubbernugget]

i don't feel any need to defend myself. the fact that you focus solely on the first part of my content where i simply say i'm backreading the game that took 4 days to finally open, which i forgot about in that time is much more relevant to me than any concern for your accusation.

you know why? because you didn't even attach a vote or even apply a scumread. you just said, "sure, you forgot" and left it at that

and now the only content you're providing is to _defend yourself_ where previously all you did was talk mechanics, and complain about the state of the town's game - with no effort to improve the state of the town.

Why did you assume that i disagree with anything else? You state that i provide no content. Were would you read that there was anything else that was bothering me?
Even if you somehow guessed that i disliked one of your opinions, why would i comment a statement, which is one sentence long? It was obvious that you only glanced on topic so far, because you gave no arguments to discuss about.

I won't vote people every single time i ask them a question.

you're more concerned about how you appear than in solving the game, it's obvious.

You beg Aaron and wooper to backup you with votes - you are the one concerned about your appearance. For what other reason would you need votes on me right now? Especially the one, which came out of sympathy. I am not on L-2, so all you can get here is good look.

VOTE: rb

Would probabaly make more sense for kerset to stay on aaron if they're scum here?

[Flubbernugget]

Luca at a glance looks like they're playing very similar to the last game i play with them and it looks pretty town

[Flubbernugget]

rb's scum reading kerset for setup spec but not SS the way I'm seeing it.

[skitter30]

Don't really like your response to Kerset here.

VOTE: skitter

ok

would u like to explain why or ... ?

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Ok catching up from my absence.
@nom - in 89, what part of the setup spec was flying over your head?

not really the setup, more like the numbers discussion I'd say.

y do u feel so much more passive than i'm used to ?

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: nom[\v]

They're not doing much and the way they're voting me for playing different (but not necessarily like scum) is a bad look

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: nom

[skitter30]

Glancing through the thread I don’t feel great about Skitter either. I think frost is Town atm. Flubber seems Town as well. Null on everyone else atm.

I am suprised that someone as active as skitter skipped 144.

Spoiler:

VOTE: Nomx3

I don’t like her setup spec at all, and then sheeping the SS vote after the setup spec nonsense got called out doesn’t feel very nice. I also didn’t like her response to Frost’s vote.

agree

Glancing through the thread I don’t feel great about Skitter either. I think frost is Town atm. Flubber seems Town as well. Null on everyone else atm.

Oh yeah, slight scumread on Suj as well.

do tell on all 4 of these ^

[skitter30]

i kinda changed my mind on maria

Why is S_S obvious scum to some of you people? I overblew the read a little bit just so you guys would get off the awful mech talk. So seeing ‘obvious’ is strange. I do like nomnoms answer but the others are hmmm

i'm p sure you're the only person calling him obvscum (?)
so this is a kinda weird backtrack from your initial vote on him

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@Skitt - where did I vote Suji? You made that accusation twice, but I dont think its true.

... 60

@Skitt - my bad, just re-read my posts and saw it. I think work broke my brain on Friday.

i mean did you forget that you were voting him or ... ?

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Billy seems town

no

as for the draft, i had no idea what i was doing so i picked 69 because LMAO SEX NUMBER

this feels fake/over-explained/like you feel the need to justify your pick/idk the right words

actually need to check something on skitter

do tell

I think Luca is entirely wrong about most of their reads

i am bothered

why does this bother you

[skitter30]

you know, i think kerset is pretty likely to be scum here

because it's like a soft accusation that i'm scum, but never actually says it. it's like, "haha oh yeah sure, you "forgot" - the natural follow-up would be to then say why they think i'm lying? or think i'm scum?

also: their only focus on all the content i've provided so far is not any of the opinions i've had about the game, but literally just the post in which i said, "i'm backreading"

this doesn't scan to me as town, whether new player or not.

VOTE: kerset

i hate like all of your posts

[nomnomnom]

VOTE: nom[\v]

They're not doing much and the way they're voting me for playing different (but not necessarily like scum) is a bad look

It's not because I'm not posting that I don't read this game or think about stuff

[skitter30]

@Luca: what previous experience do you have with Aaron that justifies him both having reasonable expectations of your typical towngame, and also, do you think that his confidence you're town is justified by your performance in this game based on that previous experience?

Two games previous, one where I was scum and he was town, and one where I was town and he was scum.

Kerset could be scum. They parked their vote on me pretty early for weak reasoning and posts have been mostly fluff other than early game setup spec.

are you really that confident in a townread on someone based on a sample size of one town game?

moreover, wouldn't you expect that Luca would probably go out of their way to appear reminiscent of their towngame to someone with a limited sample size to go off?

um this is p manipulative

[skitter30]

ok i think rb's side of the rb/aaron interaction on p15 is p slimy

[skitter30]

VOTE: rb

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: nom[\v]

They're not doing much and the way they're voting me for playing different (but not necessarily like scum) is a bad look

It's not because I'm not posting that I don't read this game or think about stuff

Well duh it's because you're scum

[nomnomnom]

I'd say I have the tendency to hyperpost as scum actually, which is proven by my scumgames. So you got that wrong.

You're playing very differently right now, and that's not a good thing. Makes no sense to give "I am a PR" to your hyperpost explanation either.

[skitter30]

nom does actually have a point there tbh

[Flubbernugget]

No, they don't.

I've played like this as town before, and "I am a PR" really muddles up how I've said I'm thinking about the way I'm playing.

[Flubbernugget]

skitter you're starting to look like you're trying to hedge me as a lynch option.