Open 769: Venrob's PYP X/Y (Town Wins)

[rb]

i can generally tell when someone's just new or when they're new scum

What is your success rate at doing this?

pretty high i think

i've argued to not lynch awkward new town as well as argued to lynch awkward new scum

also i always push hard on muh top scumread

it's just what i do

[skitter30]

which town games did you see before?

Mini 2101 i think, it ended like two weeks ago, the one sky/tw modded

Incidentally i was scum there, but i'm not sure that's particularly relevant to the subject at hand

[Kerset]

@rb you ignored my question 566

[rb]

what i wanna know is why something smart scumreads billy

I don't.

so why are you voting them

[rb]

i dont give a shit about other people's theories on mafia

[nomnomnom]

@nom3 When you shaded s_s, skitter and flubb you compared their gameplay to their previous games. When you scumread me you compared me to yourself and your general theories. Why didn't you compare me to my previous games like you did with others?

First of all I didn't shade skitter I believe?

Second, I have first-hand experience with them, which is important because I am an emotional player and I need first-hand experience communicating with people to establish "how they feel like". I don't with you so even if I were to go back on your games and analyze them I'd do a very poor job of establishing a meta for you. I've tried in the past and it ended terribly so I wouldn't want to do this again.

[rb]

reason being: it's not alignment indicative

if nom was scum, they'd talk about it to support their reads

if nom was town, they'd talk about it to support their reads

don't care, has no bearing on how i read the alignment of that slot

[skitter30]

which town games did you see before?

Mini 2101 i think, it ended like two weeks ago, the one sky/tw modded

Incidentally i was scum there, but i'm not sure that's particularly relevant to the subject at hand

If anything i think he's being townier here than there

He only wasnt mislynched there cuz i faked an inno on him

[rb]

ok, why?

[rb]

and who would you prefer to lynch?

[skitter30]

@nom3 When you shaded s_s, skitter and flubb you compared their gameplay to their previous games. When you scumread me you compared me to yourself and your general theories. Why didn't you compare me to my previous games like you did with others?

Like even this post - i dont think this is the sort of post newb scum makes.
I think he actually wants nom to explain it, and it's more important to him than a lot of what elss is going on inthread rn (like, say, the current rb/kerset discussion)

Like i dont think newbscum focuses on this when they should be focusing on like getting the wagon off of them. This doesnt help that. I think he's asking because he doesnt get nom's approach here, and that's more important to him than anything else rn

I dont think this comes from scum

[skitter30]

ok, why?

He has thoughts that make sense in the current gamestate, there his posts were always just running perpendicular to the consensus ... not sure if i explained that well

Idk who i want to lynch yet

[rb]

who is the scummiest player in the game then?

[Kerset]

@nom3 When you shaded s_s, skitter and flubb you compared their gameplay to their previous games. When you scumread me you compared me to yourself and your general theories. Why didn't you compare me to my previous games like you did with others?

First of all I didn't shade skitter I believe?

Second, I have first-hand experience with them, which is important because I am an emotional player and I need first-hand experience communicating with people to establish "how they feel like". I don't with you so even if I were to go back on your games and analyze them I'd do a very poor job of establishing a meta for you. I've tried in the past and it ended terribly so I wouldn't want to do this again.

Och sorry i misread #282. Makes sense.

[TheWizard]

Kerset (3):

rb, nomnomnom, Luca Blight

AaronFrost (3):

Xayah, Sirfetchd, Wooper

rb (3):

Kerset, skitter30, AaronFrost

Billy Pilgrim (2):

Sujimichi, Something_Smart

nomnomnom (1):

Flubbernugget

Sujimichi (1):

Billy Pilgrim

Not Voting (1):

PMysterious

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-11-03 00:30:00)

[nomnomnom]

@nom3 When you shaded s_s, skitter and flubb you compared their gameplay to their previous games. When you scumread me you compared me to yourself and your general theories. Why didn't you compare me to my previous games like you did with others?

Like even this post - i dont think this is the sort of post newb scum makes.
I think he actually wants nom to explain it, and it's more important to him than a lot of what elss is going on inthread rn (like, say, the current rb/kerset discussion)

Like i dont think newbscum focuses on this when they should be focusing on like getting the wagon off of them. This doesnt help that. I think he's asking because he doesnt get nom's approach here, and that's more important to him than anything else rn

I dont think this comes from scum

I actually think this could reasonably come from newscum for a lot of reasons. Silly reason but appropriating my own terms and accepting them as truth is something that guilty people do, I think new town players would ask questions like "What does shading mean here?" or something like that. If you've ever watched an interrogation suspects that are likely to be guilty are the ones that never challenge your theories, your accusations (as subtle as they can be) and instead feign ignorance or try to play in your game. Innocent people tend to be extremely offended that you're even implying such things in the first place and thus will display confrontational tendencies when it comes to accusations, or shading, or twisting words, etc.

The statement on top of that can be read as an attempt to discredit me: on top of playing in my own set of established rule (with my theory as bogus as it might be), they're trying to *logically* prove that I don't apply the same standards to them as opposed to others, which is a very efficient discrediting tactic if you're trying to show someone is biased. So I am not sure this comes from town.

[rb]

also wowow

kerset's actual townplay in those previous games is so, so, SO different to this game

[rb]

it's like looking at night and day differenc

verified town!kerset: has thoughts, pushes in the direction of those thoughts, calls people out when they think they are being poor town members and then PUTS THEIR VOTE ON THEM

nup, no fucking way do you read their previous games of town!kerset and then get town!kerset here

kerset is scum and skitter is coaching them

lynch both

[skitter30]

who is the scummiest player in the game then?

Probably aaron or bilky

I havent read any of kerset's previous games

[skitter30]

I'm at work so i'll get to that later @nom

[rb]

you know, maybe more pertinent: skitter is even more obvious scum for pretending to see town!kerset in their play in this game

if by some miracle kerset flips town, skitter still scum

i would lynch skitter here bc i think they're scum regardless of what kerset flips

[rb]

who is the scummiest player in the game then?

Probably aaron or bilky

I havent read any of kerset's previous games

did you not say that your townread of kerset was based on your prior experience in seeing them play?

[Something_Smart]

so why are you voting them

Because Sirfetchd said it helps them.

[rb]

which town games did you see before?

Mini 2101 i think, it ended like two weeks ago, the one sky/tw modded

Incidentally i was scum there, but i'm not sure that's particularly relevant to the subject at hand

If anything i think he's being townier here than there

He only wasnt mislynched there cuz i faked an inno on him

^^ hello?

you played an entire game with them?

[skitter30]

No ... that was luca

I dont know anything about kerset, i've never seen them before