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[Carcalilly]

It's SO easy to talk as if you were town and even now you're doing it in a way thats more performatory and self labeling than most ACTUAL town would in the midst of a lynch.

At least that's what I think.

[Carcalilly]

Also. I want hopkirk claiming first if they haven't already. I'm starting to have some minor issues with that slot.

[Carcalilly]

I'll keep Hectic, Bob, and Pilgrim in the clear unless my scumpool changes through interactions.
I might agree with your bussing on texcat, cliff.

[Billy Pilgrim]

VOTE: kop

I'm fine with Hop going first. I'd like a massclaim before I decided where to vote, but if I'm going blind within my PoE I will start here.

[Carcalilly]

Thanks for takin' a step.

[Carcalilly]

And if cliff miraculously flips town and tomorrow is LYLO, we should massclaim, because we have 2 conftown already anyway and one will probably die.

[Hopkirk]

Also. I want hopkirk claiming first if they haven't already. I'm starting to have some minor issues with that slot.

What are the issues?

Is this you asking for a claim? If so I'm fine claiming now as long as you agree to trust Hectic afterwards.

[Billy Pilgrim]

And if cliff miraculously flips town and tomorrow is LYLO, we should massclaim, because we have 2 conftown already anyway and one will probably die.

If Cliff flips loyal simple fruit vendor we have 4 comf!town. I get what Dave was saying, but I'm not going down the paranoia trap this game. We have 4 conf town if Cliff flips as claimed.

[Billy Pilgrim]

Also. I want hopkirk claiming first if they haven't already. I'm starting to have some minor issues with that slot.

What are the issues?

Is this you asking for a claim? If so I'm fine claiming now as long as you agree to trust Hectic afterwards.

Lilly already said Hectic was in her clear pending reassessment based on scumflips.

[Hopkirk]

I unvoted off of Cliff when there seemed to be some interest in a mass claim.

If no one wants to massclaim then the people who feel like Cliff needs to eat rope should just vote there.

I think Cliff should stay and conf!town out of the VT pool. I think that prospect scares scum, which is why some folks started pushing harder for a Cliff lynch. And I think I'm the only one that's proposed this, and I think that scum would have pushed for my idea if they wanted to sabotage it by role blocking. But something needs to happen to advance this day.

VOTE: kop

I'm fine with Hop going first. I'd like a massclaim before I decided where to vote, but if I'm going blind within my PoE I will start here.

So you've been saying 'we should end the day now', 'people should vote Cliff off if they scumread him'.

Literally the only reason I'm not voting Cliff now is because I've been asking for about four days about the Kop replacement, and I want that slot to be forced to do something at some point before lylo.

Why do you want to end the day before Kop gets replaced. How come you're shading me and don't acknowledge concerns that you clearly agree with if you're willing to vote Kop?

[Garmr]

I don't feel like voting for cliff I'm up for voting tex or titus's slot.

How do you feel about massclaim?

Don't care do it or not I outed my role and i think most claimed.

[Carcalilly]

It's more of an atmospheric and PoE thing I'll admit, but I'll have to go into your newer posts a little deeper to be sure.

I will IF your role has something to do with confirming Hectic and I believe you :>

[Hopkirk]

So you want a claim or nah?

[Carcalilly]

Also, only people who haven't claimed will claim. We don't need a fancy ass list of power roles for all scum to see and pick and choose from.

[Carcalilly]

Do it. No pressure

[Hopkirk]

Vanilla Townie

[Hopkirk]

I kind of hoped mafia would do something about me last night since I was basically claiming Cop yesterday and I made this post page 4 (I AM COP. HARDCLAIMING COP). With the amount of extended nights/issues this game has had I really wanted to die at some point since I've got a 1.5% sub out rate, I wasn't in danger of having to sub out if the game took a normal amount of time (instead of four-six day night phases and days that've dragged on due to waiting for replacements). Realistically I'm going to spend 2-3 weeks prodging from mid November onwards.

I don't Actually Mind hectic pointing out breAdCrumbs. It's Only a Problem if mafia kills tHe person who is doing the breAdcRumming. Don't Care if Losers Aren't In My traIN of thinkinG here, we Can dO this without People like that dragging us down.

Is the flailing thing cumulative? It sounds like we should all just accuse the d1 lynch target of flailing before we hammer (I call the lolhammer btw) to increase their chance of flipping scum.

@Hectic: if anyone gets to L2 and you want to lolL1 I'll lolhammer or vise versa.

I kind of strongly implied I barely looked at my role pm during the whole 'the word town isn't actually colored in this game' thing d1. Otherwise

[Hopkirk]

For Cliff to flip town we have to have had a d1 wagon where 8 town voted for him (me/Hectic/Billy who's town if Cliff is/5 confirmed/dead town). A wagon that the scum didn't try and push then, or later in the day.

[Garmr]

Good point. I don't see why scum cliff didn't take my hand when I was defending him through. I guess he thought he could run a counter wagon on me to survive but that would of been a stupid move.

[Billy Pilgrim]

For Cliff to flip town we have to have had a d1 wagon where 8 town voted for him (me/Hectic/Billy who's town if Cliff is/5 confirmed/dead town). A wagon that the scum didn't try and push then, or later in the day.

Given what you just said, why are you so confident that Hectic is town if Cliff flips town?

As for your other post, the length of days is really messing with me. As you remember I was in that game where the mod siteflaked, and a replacement of the inactive slot didnt really fix the issues there either. Although yes, maybe it does make sense for the day to go on while we're waiting, but I dont know how long it's going to take for the replacement. Now that hop claimed VT, it would be nice to see claims from tex, eevee, kop, a hard claim from Rick, titus, and Aaron. I think that's everyone. I dont think tomorrow is LYLO unless the vig (if there is one) misses, so it would be nice to have some extra nights to sort out the claims.

[Cliff Booth]

A VT claim from hopkirk spooks the fuck out of me because at this point a scum!tracker will be on me if it exists. "conftown"ing him in this gamestate really worries me and I'm beginning to think that continuing the plan to lynch me is good enough since we get 2 basically conftowns from it

[Cliff Booth]

super tinfoil idea..

now that profii's tracker ability will be up and running could he be scummates with hopkirk?

did a doctor prevent a NK?

did a vig shoot roster?

this is so far out there but like.... idk there's too much pressure on me at this point. You leave me alive and I continue to be more of a liability. One that could potentially "conftown" a scum as well.

It's not often I would say lynching town is the "safe option" but in this case I just flat out need to die I think.

[Cliff Booth]

If anyone can find a crumb from tchill (he makes those, I was a mason with him before and he actually introduced me to breadcrumbs) that shows who he was likely to target the night he died then I will believe scum shot him.

But why wouldn't a conftown or a doctor-claiming Rick get killed by scum instead? The only logical reason I see is that Tchill crumbed a target.

I mean it could be as simple as town!doctor!rick was going to be on one of the conftown so take out a claimed PR instead. But where does that leave Garmr? I might be missing others but if it was just Tchill and Garmr, I think a tracker is more powerful than a Voyeur?

[Hopkirk]

Actually, how much detail does Voyeur give in a normal? Would it say what kind of Fruit vendor targetted someone?

[EeveeLution Army]

I assume it would be the role not alignment