Newbie 1962 | (Game Over)

[eth0s]

Gdooooog123456789 failed to respond to his prod in 24 hours and is being replaced.

[Farren]

You lack social skills.

I think I need to take a break before I break a game rule here. This statement is not cool, regardless of your alignment.

I apologize for my casting of shame on you. That was uncalled for.

[Formerfish]

See the problem with poking bears is that sometimes sleeping ones dont give a fuck who they swat.

Derailing from subject, will ignore, but not forget.

Failure to answer a direct question. Noted.

VOTE: Chibs

Disingenuous scum can get rope, and i can go back to sleep now.

[Chibiie]

See the problem with poking bears is that sometimes sleeping ones dont give a fuck who they swat.

Derailing from subject, will ignore, but not forget.

Failure to answer a direct question. Noted.

VOTE: Chibs

Disingenuous scum can get rope, and i can go back to sleep now.

This backfires lol

[Chibiie]

You lack social skills.

I think I need to take a break before I break a game rule here. This statement is not cool, regardless of your alignment.

I apologize for my casting of shame on you. That was uncalled for.

Didn't mean to make it sound rude.
Will not apologize though, I'm trying to move the game, getting reactions out of you.

It is the nature of the game.

[Chibiie]

See the problem with poking bears is that sometimes sleeping ones dont give a fuck who they swat.

Derailing from subject, will ignore, but not forget.

Failure to answer a direct question. Noted.

VOTE: Chibs

Disingenuous scum can get rope, and i can go back to sleep now.

Here's your answer, btw:

Post 27.

- RQS

Posts 28

- Interaction with ETL, not FF

/ 32 - 34.

- Indirect, objective view

Post 56 / 59 / 73 / 75.

- Indirect, objective view

This is what I call a "bruh" moment.

Yes, I was talking about you two, I've pretty much wrote you names in the same post :/
Gotta go, be back in a few hours.

[faüstiv]

His reads on Farren/Former echo mine. I think there’s definitely one scum in there. As I said I can’t see them both being scum at this stage due to Farren’s vote on Fish. I don’t think scum places a vote on the partner that early on in the game.

They've never voted each other...
Never really interacted with each other...

Isolate their posts, you'll notice no direct, nor semi-direct interaction between them.

yeah they didn't. playing on mobile sucks.

[faüstiv]

VOTE: UNVOTE

I don't like this vote anymore.

[Formerfish]

It is the nature of the game.

Disagree. Attacking a player is out of bounds, attack a role is not.

I can't start calling you names and then blame it on the game, youre still an asshole if you do that, scum or not.

If you are scum then i can kinda see your point, but if you are town thats slimy af.

[Formerfish]

See the problem with poking bears is that sometimes sleeping ones dont give a fuck who they swat.

Derailing from subject, will ignore, but not forget.

Failure to answer a direct question. Noted.

VOTE: Chibs

Disingenuous scum can get rope, and i can go back to sleep now.

Here's your answer, btw:

Post 27.

- RQS

Posts 28

- Interaction with ETL, not FF

/ 32 - 34.

- Indirect, objective view

Post 56 / 59 / 73 / 75.

- Indirect, objective view

This is what I call a "bruh" moment.

Yes, I was talking about you two, I've pretty much wrote you names in the same post :/
Gotta go, be back in a few hours.

You said we had no contact, direct or indirect, then list times where we had both. Gotcha, also ive been sick all weekend and have been playing on a limited basis. So yeah, in the last few pages you are correct, but you would be correct if you looked at any slot, not just the on you picked to harp on for your agenda to move forward.

[Chibiie]

Isolate their posts, you'll notice no direct, nor semi-direct interaction between them.

Direct / semi-direct.
Thanks.

Also, again, didn't mean to be an asshole, but whatever.
Wanted to say something more but completely forgot, I'm playing on phone while walking.

[Chibiie]

You can question my posts, however, you cannot question why I answer others questions.
If I post something and then you interfere and start elaborating on that subject, or merely post a comment on one of my posts in order to receive reactions from others, that's what we all refer to as "game progression".

You questioning my point of view as in something I shouldn't do in a game where I have absolute no info on who's alignments are, is indeed pretty fishy. You intend to say I'm wrong for making that statement? Are you trying to stall the game or you do not appreciate me taking defense of a player that I like and also happens to be cornered and pressured by two other players from different angles?

Keep in mind this is not a full-on defense with certainty that @faüstiv is 100% townread, but I do like his approach to the game and his playstyle in these early stage of D1.

I absolutely can and will question why you are answering questions that are specifically addressed to someone else before the person they are addressed to answers them. It interferes with my ability to read them. It makes it difficult to judge if their answers are genuine or contrived.

It interferes with your ability to read them, however, it opens the door for a new read. (me and anyone else reacting on this)
You tend to ignore this stuff, which Townies tend to focus on actually.

What you're trying to say is that you tunnel-vision on each player individually?
Scums play behind your back then, I don't know...

Are you trying to imply that answering questions on behalf of other people gives you an insight into their alignment? If not, why are you trying to connect those two things together? If so, how?

I creates reactions, people will either agree or disagree with me. It gives the originally asked person a perspective on me and depending on alignment and playstyle, will follow-up with cooperation / doubt.
So to answer your question, yes. It does give

ME

an insight into their alignment.

Answered all three questions at once :)

Actively trying to interfere with someone's ability to read another benefits scum. Whether or not your statement was flat-out wrong - who knows? Maybe you did answer the question exactly how faustiv would have. But we'll never know for sure now, and that's the problem with it.

I disagree. Actively trying to interfere with someone's ability to read another will throw scum off. I give them stuff to think about, I challenge them with my posts.
Very, very good scums would derail from my original statements and will do it flawlessly, so I cannot tell if they're scum or townies, literally throw me off... That requires some social deceiving skills and I believe Yoda can agree with me when I say that I am a pretty socially skilled.

Regarding if my statement was flat-out wrong or not, that's not me who decides. I have no control over peeps point of view. They may scumread me or they may raise me as the biggest townread.
My intent was not to answer like faüstiv would have, but to prove faüstiv that I understand his plays. It was an answer for a question addressed to faüstiv, however, my audience for that reply was faüstiv himself.

Townies won't lie.

@faüstiv

will point out anything that I did wrong.
I mean, if I was

that

wrong, faüstiv will not accept my defense, but will rather question it, right?

I am not trying to stall the game. I have no issues with your attempting to defend faustiv;

I do have issues with how you're going about it

.

Is my style... Pretty complex, ain't it?

PEDIT:

You're on to something, I admit that you're pretty smart if I'm right.

[#147]

In #148 I've said:

Regarding if my statement was flat-out wrong or not, that's not me who decides. I have no control over peeps point of view. They may scumread me or they may raise me as the biggest townread.
My intent was not to answer like faüstiv would have, but to prove faüstiv that I understand his plays. It was an answer for a question addressed to faüstiv, however, my audience for that reply was faüstiv himself.

I've been doing this since the beginning of the game and my audience is different for different posts.
This game is boring.

VOTE: Formerfish

[Chibiie]

I messed up...
Note to self: Never try and edit quotes on phone.

Only wanted to cut a portion.

[faüstiv]

I messed up...
Note to self: Don't play this game on phone.

Only wanted to cut a portion.

agreed

[faüstiv]

What do you think of GildedSun so far Chiibie

[Chibiie]

Newb!town, but too little activity to be sure, I call neutral.

[Chibiie]

I wanna clear things out, because latest game activity made me wanna lose interest.

1. Was never trying to be an asshole. Each game is a fresh game and I run a different "personality" so I deny the "previous games reads".
2. It's all acting [personalities] and from now on I will throw a disclaimer.
3. We've never met, so how can I know who's lacking, let's say, social skills?
4. If I ever jump the horse, well, my honest apologies.
5. Everything I do is intended to help with the game progression.

[Radja]

Made it to page 8 but taking a break.

Notes:

ETL jumps on GildedSun for being nervous in RVS. Seems like a bad way to sort a newbie. Leaning scum
GildedSun's defense looks genuine. Leaning town
ETL backs off from initial push on on Gildedsun. Moving up to null
Formerfish questions ETL for initial push. Good call. Also questions the sheeping from Spartan, which is also good.
Formerfish's reaction to ETL backing off feels bad. Regardless of ETL's actual motivation, pushing Gildedsun for a reaction isn't really a bad play this early in the game.
ETL's pushback on Formerfish looks good. Unsure about ETL voting Spartan over Fish though.
ETL pushes Fish more and follows up with a vote finally. 1 on 1 seems a bit over the top. Lean town for now
faustiv acts like he's in the game but doesn't want to share thoughts. Trying to look busy maybe?
Farren questions his scumread Spartan.
YodaVader makes a good entrance, Chibiie opens with an L-1 vote. Yikes
ETL attempts to derail the Fish wagon
Chibiie mentions not having fully read the game, but still put Fish at L-1 in his opening. Weird
faustiv analysis of the game is good. Lean town
Farren pushes faustiv for questioning the Spartan voters. Seems like a bit too defensive.
Chibiie puts Gdog at L-1 now. Feels a bit opportunistic.
Chibiie pushes Fish/Farren. If this is scum he's definitely swinging hard. Leaning town
Chibiie looks town for his approach against Farren. I'm not sure yet what to think of Farren. More convinced on Chibiie town than Farren scum

Town leans: GildedSun, ETL, faustiv, Chibiie
That leaves 2 scum in FormerFish, Farren, Gdog and Yoda. I'll hold off on voting until I'm fully caught up.

UNVOTE:

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Love this! ^

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Reads align completely. Mobile. More tomorrow

[Chibiie]

Made it to page 8 but taking a break.

Notes:

ETL jumps on GildedSun for being nervous in RVS. Seems like a bad way to sort a newbie. Leaning scum
GildedSun's defense looks genuine. Leaning town
ETL backs off from initial push on on Gildedsun. Moving up to null
Formerfish questions ETL for initial push. Good call. Also questions the sheeping from Spartan, which is also good.
Formerfish's reaction to ETL backing off feels bad. Regardless of ETL's actual motivation, pushing Gildedsun for a reaction isn't really a bad play this early in the game.
ETL's pushback on Formerfish looks good. Unsure about ETL voting Spartan over Fish though.
ETL pushes Fish more and follows up with a vote finally. 1 on 1 seems a bit over the top. Lean town for now
faustiv acts like he's in the game but doesn't want to share thoughts. Trying to look busy maybe?
Farren questions his scumread Spartan.
YodaVader makes a good entrance, Chibiie opens with an L-1 vote. Yikes
ETL attempts to derail the Fish wagon
Chibiie mentions not having fully read the game, but still put Fish at L-1 in his opening. Weird
faustiv analysis of the game is good. Lean town
Farren pushes faustiv for questioning the Spartan voters. Seems like a bit too defensive.
Chibiie puts Gdog at L-1 now. Feels a bit opportunistic.
Chibiie pushes Fish/Farren. If this is scum he's definitely swinging hard. Leaning town
Chibiie looks town for his approach against Farren. I'm not sure yet what to think of Farren. More convinced on Chibiie town than Farren scum

Town leans: GildedSun, ETL, faustiv, Chibiie
That leaves 2 scum in FormerFish, Farren, Gdog and Yoda. I'll hold off on voting until I'm fully caught up.

UNVOTE:

OMG ty for coming here.
That moment when you're in front of a cave and yell, then you're waiting on your echo?
Hello, my beloved echo.

Townlean

[faüstiv]

i will say chibiie's constant jumping around with votes on hot wagons is unsettling.

[Chibiie]

Feel free to run me up.
As long as my contribution helps Town win, I'm happy.

Anyway, I can only see 4 outcomes:

- FF flips red (using FF as example now since he's my scumread for D1 and we've had beef) and I get NK'ed.
- FF flips green and I don't get NK'ed, but pushed D2 for lynch for being main drive force;
- I get lynched and I flip, of course, green... We'll rip me
- FF flips green and I still get NK'ed for being a solid threat to scums.

I doubt that if FF flips red then I will survive NK. I'm pretty sure scums have already mentioned my name multiple times in their PT.

[Chibiie]

Short would be: I'm subject to death by the end of D2

[eth0s]

Geyde replaces Gdooooog123456789.