Open 769: Venrob's PYP X/Y (Town Wins)

[Xayah]

You don't need to write a novel. But I at least thought you'd give a sentence or two. Your reasoning holds no water until you can give that. I think the only reason people can 'suspect' me is because of the playstyle I'm choosing to go with this game. But, I'll wait and see.
pedit: See that's a start. To answer your point: A) Yes it was apart of a bandwagon B) If I was scum-mmm I won't go down that path it's wifom and not many people care to listen.
What makes me wanting to jump onto the wagon scummy? Do you not believe my reason?

you barely mentioned billy before and jumped on the wagon for information when the wagon existed when we're not really ready to end the day or anything, it's not like it was a compromise deadline lynch ...
i mean, should i be townreading this or

I don't expect to be tr for it. The reason I barely mention billy is because I don't have much on him in the first place. I didn't think at the moment I could get my confident scumread lynched. So I went with a good plan B.
I think I've been lynched day 1 0 times in my whole mafiascum carrier and I don't think this'll be game 1.

[Xayah]

The people who have me in there scum poe have not explained besides saying 'off' or nothing at all. The reason why? Because my posts aren't scummy and you have nothing to go off of. You dislike the fact I'm lurking. If I was scum you would probably be townreading me considering my winrate at the moment. The reason I've never been lynched on day 1 is either:
A) Oh Maria/Xayah is getting voted day 1 so she's probably town. When I'm town
B) I get enough townreads as scum that people don't vote me.
But let's ignore that meta for just a minute.

If I'm scum who is it with? What is my motivation for just jumping in and voting randomly like that as scum? Would scum me do the stuff I've done this game? You all know I'm a good scum player so I must have some motivations for my actions right?

[Luca Blight]

Why not try pushing your ‘confident scumread’ before writing off your chances of getting them lynched?

[Xayah]

Because at the moment and time he had 1 vote. And considering everyone had an outlook on me that seemed like they wouldn't listen to my posting I didn't see a need or effort to put in my time and energy to case Aaron to try and get him lynched. Not many people do tend to listen to me after all.
Now that he is a legit wagon I obviously feel more willing and wanting to vote that slot.

[Luca Blight]

Self-meta is worthless. You’re always going to say you’re playing differently from your scum game regardless of your alignment, as we’re seeing with Billy as well.

[Xayah]

I didn't give you meta. I gave you facts.

I never said I was playing differently than my scum game because my scum game doesn't have a meta. The way I play the game is in a manner that if you do try to meta me you'll get the wrong result 9/10 times. I was giving you information on how my day 1 goes.

[Luca Blight]

And why exactly do you want Frost lynched?

[nomnomnom]

We have a lot more content and reasons to get either one of Kerset and/or Aaron lynched. Xayah lacks in content. If she's scum then she'll have to be a day 2+ lynch imo. I did say her vote felt off but it's just a bad feeling in my chest nothing more. This wagon is stupid and formed way too quickly on a player that doesn't do much. Notice how other wagons took much more time to do so.

pedit: Luca look at what Aaron just did and you'll see why he's scum. He's saying that he's fine with either a Kerset or Xayah lynch yet doesn't push Kerset with 4 votes on him at the time, in favor of Xayah which is essentially a vanity vote considering no one was voting her prior. That makes absolutely no sense from what he posted. That's why he's scum.

[Wooper]

@Billy
i believe in your towngame and i love you!!
just do your best. your towniness shines through when you do and that's what counts


also

Surely when I close my eyes the bad dream ends, we lynch aaron and flip a scum and we all have a good laugh

lmao

[Luca Blight]

‘If I’m scum who is it with?’

Btw that’s a really stupid question for D1.

[Luca Blight]

Nom, I was curious to see Xayah’s reasoning without you answering for her.

[nomnomnom]

soz but I really want this game to move forward now and I'm honestly mind boggled by this Xayah push lol

[Xayah]

And why exactly do you want Frost lynched?

Because all you need to do is look at his iso and you can see how his mindset makes 0 sense from town. He asks questions gets the answer and does nothing with them. It's just to appear busy. It's also clear he has an agenda as you can see how his posting leads up to certain scumreads. Sure, you can read posts and get to why X is scum. But the way town and scum go at that is very differently most of the time. Combine that with the fact he voted me over Kerset when he 'scumreads us both' strongly points to
A) Partners
B) Setting up lynches
I lean B

Aaron needed some way to vote me without it just being glaringly obvious. He also was one of the first real wagons that magically went away. For... no reason at all? Compared to other wagons at least

[Xayah]

We have a lot more content and reasons to get either one of Kerset and/or Aaron lynched. Xayah lacks in content. If she's scum then she'll have to be a day 2+ lynch imo. I did say her vote felt off but it's just a bad feeling in my chest nothing more. This wagon is stupid and formed way too quickly on a player that doesn't do much. Notice how other wagons took much more time to do so.

pedit: Luca look at what Aaron just did and you'll see why he's scum. He's saying that he's fine with either a Kerset or Xayah lynch yet doesn't push Kerset with 4 votes on him at the time, in favor of Xayah which is essentially a vanity vote considering no one was voting her prior. That makes absolutely no sense from what he posted. That's why he's scum.

As much as I agree with you. Don't answer for me. I was going to bring this up myself but if you answer for me I can't say that without people going 'well you just copied that persons reasoning' answering questions for other people is anti town.

[Something_Smart]

‘If I’m scum who is it with?’

Btw that’s a really stupid question for D1.

It's a town question though. Who asked it?

[Luca Blight]

Nom, you said if Frost flips scum then Kerset is definitely scum as well? Then why not just lynch Kerset?

Is the opposite true as well?

[skitter30]

I don't expect to be tr for it. The reason I barely mention billy is because I don't have much on him in the first place. I didn't think at the moment I could get my confident scumread lynched. So I went with a good plan B.

i mean you didn't try to get aaron lynched at all

[skitter30]

Notice how other wagons took much more time to do so.

um both the xayah and aaron wagons have built p quickly just now

[Wooper]

‘If I’m scum who is it with?’

Btw that’s a really stupid question for D1.

most of the time ya
it's probably stupid in this instance i just saw this and was like mmmm

[Kerset]

I admit I am still confused that Billy out of all people in this playerlist is getting wagoned. It just feels so random, so much of an easy target to go after, the guy had barely any content and people went after him on day 1 with people making extremely dodgy posts. I still don't understand. I think that the wagon is extremely bad and probably has scum in it. I can't comprehend how people went to the conclusion that Billy was a good lynch. Even if you forget Kerset there are a lot of people worthy of scrutiny that got off relatively easy and I think that is no coincidence.

People vote Billy - you are mad that we ignore other potential scum.

In fact if I was to look at this wagon and point at someone who I think is scum I'd definitely vote Xayah here.

Then you suggest Xaya

Now you are mad because people vote her, even that we still got 3 days left.

[MariaR]

I don't expect to be tr for it. The reason I barely mention billy is because I don't have much on him in the first place. I didn't think at the moment I could get my confident scumread lynched. So I went with a good plan B.

i mean you didn't try to get aaron lynched at all

I made a post at first and no one really commented so I didn't see much of a need to try again. Perhaps if I was tryharding I would, but I don't really see a need to do that at the moment. I'm perfectly fine being lazy.

[Xayah]

I don't expect to be tr for it. The reason I barely mention billy is because I don't have much on him in the first place. I didn't think at the moment I could get my confident scumread lynched. So I went with a good plan B.

i mean you didn't try to get aaron lynched at all

I made a post at first and no one really commented so I didn't see much of a need to try again. Perhaps if I was tryharding I would, but I don't really see a need to do that at the moment. I'm perfectly fine being lazy.

[Xayah]

Pokemon, you voting me has to be one of the more odd ones of the bunch. Why are you on me?

[Something_Smart]

Someone give me the cliff notes on billy scum case.

889 - 890

[Luca Blight]

‘If I’m scum who is it with?’

Btw that’s a really stupid question for D1.

It's a town question though. Who asked it?

Xayah.

I’m not so sure it’s a town question though - it reminds me of how I used to play as scum. If you can’t logically prove that I’m scum then you have no right to vote me.