Open 767: Nomination Mafia [Day 7]

[RadiantCowbells]

it's actually rly fucking exhausting and childish.

[RadiantCowbells]

like what you're missing in the subtext is that he's trying to force me to either lynch him today or set him up to be able to more easily mislynch him over me later.
i'm not going to do that. my slot was the clearest slot in the game from an outsiders perspective and if this is menalque's approach i'm willing to make this complete aids to remove him.

i can come up with 2 a person townblock that doesn't have to include me once we get the next scum, but i think that especially if GL flips scum mena slot should never hit endgame.

[RadiantCowbells]

he hasn't towntold at all, he's just tried to bully me into townreading him. same shit shoshin did in our last game. fuck that, fuck him.

[RadiantCowbells]

you guys have spent this entire game scumhunting single scum without considering the bigger picture, like, at all.
sometimes it's beneficial to individually hunt scum but when we're in a situation where the objective towniest slot (my own) was getting discredited to hell to fit in you and Menalque and none of the scumspects are trying to unshake the power hierarchy
you should really ask questions about why that is since even the people who aren't doing "much" don't look like scum resigned to a loss.
not that there's NO POSSIBILITIES, but no one has been trying to look at what those possibilities would be

once we flip scum me and cirno can't be svs anymore and the fact that awoo was unimpreachably obvtown is no longer a point to argue against and from there i'll take point

i just want to be absolutely sure we hit scum today so that Menalque can't mislynch me if he's scum or scum can't play us against each other if we're both town.

[RadiantCowbells]

and that's why I think this goes past just bad town play and has a ton of scum motivation. forcing this now allows him to push me/drcirno as SvS. we get another town flip? suddenly that's not a thing you can do.

[RadiantCowbells]

scum flip. plus him defending GL by pushing PK. but anyway. I do think right now that GL is the highest equity scumflip so me and you are at least in agreement on that joey
though I'm going to stall the vote because there's a ton of other stuff I want to do today

i hope that my position is more understandable now?

[RadiantCowbells]

what's scum's path to winning here

with green flip from TSE I'm guessing that was in fact an all-town pool

and I still think Joey is town

lynching pisskop/norway/suji is some order even if I'm lynched today, should pretty much win it right

VOTE: pisskop
I don't think town would replace out here the game feels pretty much solved with an Awoo/Menalque/Joey town block and I think his repeated shading of Menalque was an attempt to crack that

like joey you think that GL is scum. why does GL scum make this post if there's not scum in Awoo/Menalque/Joey or there's some other plan adjacent to this to out spew himself relative to said townblock

Joey will you vote pisskop slot on D7 ? That's all I need rn

Joey do you agree me v pisskop is likely TvS yes or no

something like this would create a coherent scum gameplan where the 1v1 is designed to spew whichever one of GL/PK flips as more town than the universal TRs
I think Norwegian maybe with a gameplan of just trying to mislynch and use whichever survives to argue that it wouldn't be 3 scum in the pool

but no one's even talking about this??

[RadiantCowbells]

this would actually be a fun game to have ankamius so we could spend a long time talking about what the scum game plan is but i feel like no one is considering the game beyond a surface level atm

[RadiantCowbells]

and like people always try to use "oh scum have no plan they've just accepted that they lose" to justify making decisions that don't play around any sort of scum strategy existing but scum almost never have just accepted that they lose.

[RadiantCowbells]

btw menalque nothing you described in your self meta is something that i would read a person off of, it's all too easily manipulated.

[RadiantCowbells]

like it actually vexes me that GL who i'm not townreading is the only person to have brought up the question of a scum gameplan and pushed someone based off of a potential scum gameplan
like people have pushed me off of that but my slot really shouldn't be in contention as scum and "waah rc is trying to lynch the townblock" is a childish and jejune take on my scum game.

[RadiantCowbells]

i don't want to lynch someone because "they're scummy" before i know they'll flip scum. 7 way is too late in the game and this gamestate is not one suitable to compromise lynching on someone 'likely' to flip scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

and with all that said

Joey who do you think is the partner if GL is scum and why

[RadiantCowbells]

Man I'm actually starting to wonder if NorwegianEE might be the scum in the lynchpool

[Joey_]

To be fair, its not as much the content of his rxn as how he said it (tone & etc) and I am confident I can read that properly coming from town

[Joey_]

you guys have spent this entire game scumhunting single scum without considering the bigger picture, like, at all.

Its mostly explained by the pool i guess, where you are confirned to a pre determined set of people

[RadiantCowbells]

norwegianee looks a lot worse reading the game front to back than his iso does

[RadiantCowbells]

do we as a matter of course refuse to lynch all 3 people in the lynchpool if 2 flip scum so that if scum put themselves all in the lynchpool d1 they get the win?

[RadiantCowbells]

No i'm saying that if Titus was scum then that means she'd have nominated herself this round, so my question is. Why would she do that if she were scum? Open-wolfing is a possibility that's true, but is it worth the risk? That's what i'm wondering. Is it normal for scum to nominate themselves? I haven't read any earlier games so i don't really know what the meta is.

So the theory is that scum Titus nominates herself and Correspondence, encourages us to vote Correspondence as a mislynch. Then uses the nomination to townclear herself?
I could believe it tbh.
Need to see the VC. Mod plz.

I did mention intent. Read my ISO.

Anyway, going back to my initial vote.
VOTE: Titus

Titus/PM in scumteam for sure.

Titus do you have nothing more to say?
Also hi new nominee.

like it doesn't really come across via iso but there's not really anything that happens between these posts to justify the read transition

[RadiantCowbells]

besides titus getting voted more

[Joey_]

what's scum's path to winning here

with green flip from TSE I'm guessing that was in fact an all-town pool

and I still think Joey is town

lynching pisskop/norway/suji is some order even if I'm lynched today, should pretty much win it right

VOTE: pisskop
I don't think town would replace out here the game feels pretty much solved with an Awoo/Menalque/Joey town block and I think his repeated shading of Menalque was an attempt to crack that

like joey you think that GL is scum. why does GL scum make this post if there's not scum in Awoo/Menalque/Joey or there's some other plan adjacent to this to out spew himself relative to said townblock

Joey will you vote pisskop slot on D7 ? That's all I need rn

Joey do you agree me v pisskop is likely TvS yes or no

something like this would create a coherent scum gameplan where the 1v1 is designed to spew whichever one of GL/PK flips as more town than the universal TRs
I think Norwegian maybe with a gameplan of just trying to mislynch and use whichever survives to argue that it wouldn't be 3 scum in the pool

but no one's even talking about this??

1. In some respect, awoo was a deepwolf read for reasons like those & possibly one of the few reasons why It makes me want to 2nd guess on GL
2. It's a reference to a read I outed earlier in the game, where I said Pk & GL are very unlikely both S, so he might using my own logic against myself

[RadiantCowbells]

idk if gl is the second scum in the lynchpool

i still believe one exists

i think it might be norway

[RadiantCowbells]

but gl seriously you said you had an entire train ride to read this game and u came out with a really dumb post calling cirno out for 'slipping' what

[RadiantCowbells]

like i honestly think all 3 scum in lynchpool is currently the most likely answer to this game???

[Joey_]

and with all that said

Joey who do you think is the partner if GL is scum and why

Thats a good question, my suji/menalque reads are rock solid

Awoo/nEE/pk less, so it was always someone there

I am thinking that beside a major blunder, Awoo/yourself are town, so nEE/pk