Open 767: Nomination Mafia [Day 7]


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Post Post #2700 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:01 am

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In post 2697, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Well yeah, but town only posted like 5 times in 8 days. So you were 10 times as active compared to them.
eth0s who died super early ended with only slightly less posts than me
blatant scum had more posts than me

in the time period that i've been in this game i've probably posted twice as much as the entire remaining playerlist has posted together

one of these things is not like the other. one of them is genuine gamesolving enthusiasm.
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Post Post #2701 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:02 am

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In post 2699, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I don't know about you, but i usually try to avoid having a recognizable scum or town meta. That way people can't just go "ah, he is X in this game". You trying to describe how you would "never do X as scum" in a game kinda sounds like something scum would say TBH.
caring about how you're read is very jejune as scum. when you know all the flips it's easy to win.
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Post Post #2702 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:02 am

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also i'm scumreading you and your posting is making me scumread you more than the fact that you're low key setting up to vote me makes me scumread you even more.
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Post Post #2703 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:04 am

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btw for the people who haven't been on for hours at home

Menalque was on for a long time before he started posting, and Norwegian was on with him and Norwegian has been on this entire time and just popped in now

think it's highly likely they were discussing shit in scum PT and Norwegian is just finally popping in to say something which is mostly just to set up to vote for me because there's no path to a win for scum following Norwegian getting lynched.
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Post Post #2704 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:04 am

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Unless you're going to argue that we should lynch outside of you/Menalque today then it's kinda a given that i'll have to choose to believe one of you.
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Post Post #2705 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:05 am

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well yeah

but you could choose to believe the one who is town or you could choose to believe the one who is scum

and you were already trying to discredit my menalque scumread earlier
In post 2246, NorwegianboyEE wrote:So you're openly admitting that there is an high amount of bias in your read on Menalque?
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Post Post #2706 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:07 am

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In post 2703, RadiantCowbells wrote:btw for the people who haven't been on for hours at home

Menalque was on for a long time before he started posting, and Norwegian was on with him and Norwegian has been on this entire time and just popped in now

think it's highly likely they were discussing shit in scum PT and Norwegian is just finally popping in to say something which is mostly just to set up to vote for me because there's no path to a win for scum following Norwegian getting lynched.
I wasn't discussing anything in a scum PT, i was observing you guys argue. Didn't feel like there was much room for me to butt in until now.
The fact that you're coming up with magical theories like me discussing in a mafia PT with Mena kinda discredits your Menalque push even more TBH.
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Post Post #2707 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:08 am

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and your postcount push is clearly disingenuous. i find it really hard to believe that you say truly believing it what you did about the vengeful game.
I wasn't discussing anything in a scum PT, i was observing you guys argue. Didn't feel like there was much room for me to butt in until now.
The fact that you're coming up with magical theories like me discussing in a mafia PT with Mena kinda discredits your Menalque push even more TBH.
"magical theories" and look more defending menalque
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Post Post #2708 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:09 am

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Ok cool, i'm not going to spend my entire day arguing with you.
I choose to believe Menalque over you and i find your push super weird and scummy.
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Post Post #2709 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:14 am

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yup

both scum are voting me right now, btw.
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Post Post #2710 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:17 am

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hi suji time for you to make your stand.
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Post Post #2711 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:19 am

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In post 2709, RadiantCowbells wrote:yup

both scum are voting me right now, btw.
and before scum say something like "ohhh but but but you're only calling us scum cuz we're voting you"
i called the scumteam before norwegian even started posting today
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Post Post #2712 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:20 am

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also note how fucking shallow both of their engagement with me has been.

norwegian has nothing to say about me besides "weird and scummy"
menalque is literally only reading me off of the fact that i'm voting him, but at the same time claiming that he just saw me do that to town in another game (don't agree it was same thing but), then still calling it a scumtell despite the fact that he just claimed to have seen me doing it in another game
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Post Post #2713 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:21 am

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In post 2638, Menalque wrote:Fmpov you’re overwhelmingly likely scum. If, however, I’m wrong, then committing to saying I should be lynched if you flip town is game losing because it would mean losing in lylo. We flip you here and you flip scum then I think we’re golden this game. But if you are just playing one of the worst town games I’ve ever seen then okay, I’m not losing town the game by saying we should always lynch me.

Why aren’t you willing to be honest about this fypov? You’re saying that even from town!you pov that after I flip town that you want them to lynch you in lylo?
Didn't you say something similar about lynching RadiantCowbells tomorrow when you flip green in ?
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Post Post #2714 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:23 am

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like i delved into menalque's associatives with flipped scum and his posting
LITERALLY ALL MENALQUE HAS HAD TO SAY ABOUT ME is i'm pushing on him and therefore i'm scum. that's it. he cites a game where i push on town. and then keeps only pushing on me for pushing on him.
Didn't you say something similar about lynching RadiantCowbells tomorrow when you flip green in 2238?
that was just him trying to towntell and apparently certain people (joey) lapped it up.
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Post Post #2715 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:23 am

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In post 1914, Sujimichi wrote:Again, I have a tinfoil hat theory that I don't really want to discuss at this time.
It seems appropriate to discuss now that my tinfoil hat theory was that Menalque was scum who was playing as town leader. That seems to have been disrupted now that RadiantCowbells joined the game.
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Post Post #2716 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:26 am

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Do you have any doubts that I'm coming from a town POV Suji
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Post Post #2717 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:27 am

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Menalque's entire tone changed when he was called out as scum by RadiantCowbells. I'm not sure if this is fear or frustration; or, perhaps a mix of both.
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Post Post #2718 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:29 am

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Hooooly shit 13 pages overnight
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Post Post #2719 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:29 am

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In post 2716, RadiantCowbells wrote:Do you have any doubts that I'm coming from a town POV Suji
I'm trying to read through and process the important bits right now. I didn't like Awoo's tunnel focus on me, but I also did not have a scumread on him. There's a lot of back and forth between you and Menalque, and I don't know why, as scum, you would come in and upset the dynamic between Awoo's slot and Menalque when there was a feasibly better track to victory if you were scum.

As of this moment, I have little doubt you are town.
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Post Post #2720 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:31 am

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Less sorting you as a player and more sorting your playstyle, why were you reluctant to voice your SR on Menalque?
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Post Post #2721 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:32 am

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Also I don't think scum RC would say "treat me as confirmed scum if this flips town" because he knows people will actually listen to that compared to other people saying the same.
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Post Post #2722 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:34 am

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In post 2721, DrCirno wrote:Also I don't think scum RC would say "treat me as confirmed scum if this flips town" because he knows people will actually listen to that compared to other people saying the same.
That's what he wants you to think. :roll:
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Post Post #2723 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:34 am

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In post 2720, RadiantCowbells wrote:Less sorting you as a player and more sorting your playstyle, why were you reluctant to voice your SR on Menalque?
I had no solid rationale to support my theory and was being scumread by the majority of the players (negative points when trying to persuade the group). When trying to target the town leader (perceived or actual), one needs to come from a strong foundation or not at all.
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Post Post #2724 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:35 am

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In post 2722, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 2721, DrCirno wrote:Also I don't think scum RC would say "treat me as confirmed scum if this flips town" because he knows people will actually listen to that compared to other people saying the same.
That's what he wants you to think. :roll:
It's more of what I know/learned over the past few games actually.
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