Newbie 1963 - Game Over

Datisi · Post Post #525 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:36 pm

Yoink

I dunno, being reckless isn't always a good strategy. But you do you I guess.

Formerfish · Post Post #526 (ISO) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:21 pm

Is it really reckless if you know that you have the best hand at the table though?

Uncrowned · Post Post #527 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:30 am

In post 438, bugspray wrote:my list:

town:
* bugspray: duh
* Datisi: pretty solid town to me tbh, doing a lot of good scumhunting that makes up the foundation of effective townplay
*
Gyro: seems to have made same earlier mistakes as me but even sooner and now has effectively joined the scumunt (cant wait till figure out how I do this).

**null:**
* teacher: null leaning town but still town imo, been helpful and making a lot of good points, possibly
* Gardenia: still not fully sure, scumlean on her for sure because a lot of the same newb mistakes I'm making
* Fuzanglong: slight scumlean because not helping but this is a less serious accusation and more of "applying pressure" or something
*JV: scumlean because might be bad town like earlier gyro and then me seems to be sort of digging a hole like i was earlier but way more spectacularly

**scum:**

*fish: start helping and acting like town

I don't get these two parts. Gyro has been one of the least active players in the game and has provided no insight and made only naked votes. Fish, even if you don't agree with his playstyle, has pressured other players into giving explanations and has made some connections that seem feasible. I think at best Gyro can only be put into the null category due to lack of useful activity. I'm still susp of him though.

Also, where am I on this list?

Uncrowned · Post Post #528 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:38 am

In post 489, Fuzanglong wrote:
In post 481, Formerfish wrote:
In post 479, Fuzanglong wrote:FormerFish: at least recently, being vague, also is trying to convince ppl he doesn't care if he gets lynched or not (but then maybe he doesnt?) at least twice, once in pg 19, once in pg 18
Incorrect. I care. It just isn't going to happen.

Anyone who looks at me better come up with one hell of a case, cause I have the means to dismantle any case brought against me as scum

Assuming I am town and focusing on other slots is beneficial to town. Focusing on me is a red herring and will be proven to be a bad read eventually.
I mean theoretically it can happen lol also then a counterclaim would be that why do you care? If you're a townie then dying would just be like a "ha in your face" moment would it not?

...why would a townie want to be lynched?

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #529 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:47 am

*slaps whiteboard* VOTE: Gyro.
Reasoning: Still hasn't told us why they placed a naked vote on FF.

Uncrowned · Post Post #530 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:47 am

In post 516, JacksonVirgo wrote:Thanks for answering lol
UNVOTE: bugspray

Why so quick to unvote after he answered one question? Isn't he on your scum list? Or am I wrong?

Uncrowned · Post Post #531 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:48 am

Oh, okay. You got another vote up. This puts Gyro at L-2 I believe.

Uncrowned · Post Post #532 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:55 am

In post 510, teacher wrote:It feels like the attention has been focused on bug and that’s the momentum slot. And it feels like nobody has been pushing against that, which means everybody (including bugs presumptive partner) is ok with that. So I’m not.

The second line was on bugs response to the avi and other pressure - not trying to appease others to survive. I’m just not getting much survivalism. Again, not a great sign.

I understand the premise here, although I'm not sure I agree with the second point. Bug has been trying to survive, more notably after he said he was taking the game more serious after his earlier interactions with Datisi.

In post 511, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 510, teacher wrote:It feels like the attention has been focused on bug and that’s the momentum slot. And it feels like nobody has been pushing against that, which means everybody (including bugs presumptive partner) is ok with that. So I’m not.

The second line was on bugs response to the avi and other pressure - not trying to appease others to survive. I’m just not getting much survivalism. Again, not a great sign.
You're pushing against it.

Teacher/Bug lol

Well, yeah. But he explains why.

In post 512, Fuzanglong wrote:
In post 510, teacher wrote:It feels like the attention has been focused on bug and that’s the momentum slot. And it feels like nobody has been pushing against that, which means everybody (including bugs presumptive partner) is ok with that. So I’m not.

The second line was on bugs response to the avi and other pressure - not trying to appease others to survive. I’m just not getting much survivalism. Again, not a great sign.
dis makes you sound sus bc what if you're bug's ally and you want the pressure off him and therefore yourself

Isn't the opposite happening here? If anything, Teacher got a slight pressure from you and JV for making that post.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #533 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:15 am

In post 530, Uncrowned wrote:
In post 516, JacksonVirgo wrote:Thanks for answering lol
UNVOTE: bugspray
Why so quick to unvote after he answered one question? Isn't he on your scum list? Or am I wrong?

I only voted bug because they wouldn't answer my question, then they did so I unvoted. Gyro is more sus to me. Its either Gyro or bug from my current pov

teacher · Post Post #534 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:25 am

In post 533, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 530, Uncrowned wrote:
In post 516, JacksonVirgo wrote:Thanks for answering lol
UNVOTE: bugspray
Why so quick to unvote after he answered one question? Isn't he on your scum list? Or am I wrong?
I only voted bug because they wouldn't answer my question, then they did so I unvoted. Gyro is more sus to me. Its either Gyro or bug from my current pov

Can easily be both, to be clear, and I have slight inclinations to believe that from cokes one post. Just think gyro is the more progitable lynch for the day.

Uncrowned · Post Post #535 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:15 am

In post 534, teacher wrote:
In post 533, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 530, Uncrowned wrote:
In post 516, JacksonVirgo wrote:Thanks for answering lol
UNVOTE: bugspray
Why so quick to unvote after he answered one question? Isn't he on your scum list? Or am I wrong?
I only voted bug because they wouldn't answer my question, then they did so I unvoted. Gyro is more sus to me. Its either Gyro or bug from my current pov
Can easily be both, to be clear, and I have slight inclinations to believe that from cokes one post. Just think gyro is the more progitable lynch for the day.

Who are you referring to, Teacher? JV and Gyro? Bug and Gyro?

Micc · Post Post #536 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:21 am

Through no fault of their own, Datisi has received game compromising information and will need to be replaced.

Formerfish · Post Post #537 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:23 am

In post 536, Micc wrote:
Through no fault of their own, Datisi has received game compromising information and will need to be replaced.

WTF, mate?

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #538 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:51 am

In post 536, Micc wrote:
Through no fault of their own, Datisi has received game compromising information and will need to be replaced.

OOF

bugspray · Post Post #539 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:07 am

My tier list was me trying to quietly say "hey are you two Masons?* But I sort of made it useless at both the apparent and intended purpose which is why I put gyro in town for a bs reason. It was 100% me overreadimg into the year if I'm mafia then he is my partner

bugspray · Post Post #540 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:08 am

There was a post where I was throwing random shade where someone replied that.

Gyro Zeppeli · Post Post #541 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:29 am

In post 529, JacksonVirgo wrote:*slaps whiteboard* VOTE: Gyro.
Reasoning: Still hasn't told us why they placed a naked vote on FF.

don't like BTS not cool

Formerfish · Post Post #542 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:46 am

In post 539, bugspray wrote:My tier list was me trying to quietly say "hey are you two Masons?* But I sort of made it useless at both the apparent and intended purpose which is why I put gyro in town for a bs reason. It was 100% me overreadimg into the year if I'm mafia then he is my partner

Umm... why are you mason hunting at all? We don't even know if that's the setup we are in.

How would you know that was even an option unless you were scum and knew what you and your partner are so you would know what column we are in and what we might have for town prs?

teacher · Post Post #543 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:53 am

In post 539, bugspray wrote:My tier list was me trying to quietly say "hey are you two Masons?* But I sort of made it useless at both the apparent and intended purpose which is why I put gyro in town for a bs reason. It was 100% me overreadimg into the year if I'm mafia then he is my partner

So many questions.
*why masons? (See FF)
* which two?
* why would you spec in thread anyways?
* what is this responding to?

teacher · Post Post #544 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:54 am

In post 535, Uncrowned wrote:
In post 534, teacher wrote:
In post 533, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 530, Uncrowned wrote:
In post 516, JacksonVirgo wrote:Thanks for answering lol
UNVOTE: bugspray
Why so quick to unvote after he answered one question? Isn't he on your scum list? Or am I wrong?
I only voted bug because they wouldn't answer my question, then they did so I unvoted. Gyro is more sus to me. Its either Gyro or bug from my current pov
Can easily be both, to be clear, and I have slight inclinations to believe that from cokes one post. Just think gyro is the more progitable lynch for the day.
Who are you referring to, Teacher? JV and Gyro? Bug and Gyro?

My bad, I was referring to A JV/bug point when talking bug/gyro

ignore it, just me being dumb about who replaces who.

gardenia · Post Post #545 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:29 am

Sorry guys for not posting but I think I'm going to ask for a replacement. I'm just super busy rn and can't keep up regular posting/reading. Thanks all for having me; I've had a super great time while I was here!

Micc · Post Post #546 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:47 am

gardenia has requested replacement.

bugspray · Post Post #547 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:13 pm

In post 543, teacher wrote:
In post 539, bugspray wrote:My tier list was me trying to quietly say "hey are you two Masons?* But I sort of made it useless at both the apparent and intended purpose which is why I put gyro in town for a bs reason. It was 100% me overreadimg into the year if I'm mafia then he is my partner
So many questions.
*why masons? (See FF)
* which two?
* why would you spec in thread anyways?
* what is this responding to?

I've decided not to answer these because I'm town and none of my answers to these questions will help town.

teacher · Post Post #548 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:20 pm

Disagree. It will let me see your thought process which is something I am definitely not understanding generally. It’s either newb!moonlogic or scum not knowing how to distract and I’m not sure which. Trying to hear it coherently explained (or at least why you thought there would be masons and which two you thought were) would definitely help - not so much for the substance but for the process.

Micc · Post Post #549 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:21 pm