Open 767: Nomination Mafia [Day 7]

[Menalque]

Describing*

[DrCirno]

How do you expect to push people like this and not have them respond emotionally?

Except that that "emotion" of yours is NAI.
That makes people tired of reading this damn game and make people apathetic.

[RadiantCowbells]

i don't think my strategies for killing my scumreads are different from other people's strategies for killing their scumreads outside of the fact that mine are more effective.

[DrCirno]

Like people whine about RC ruining games all the time
But from what I've seen it has been always

1. RC pushes someone
2. People emotionally react
3. But that emotion is NAI
4. People get tired of that shit
5. People turn apathetic
6. People gives RC his way.
7. Blame RC for ruining games post-game.

[RadiantCowbells]

and yeah, it's fundamentally nai to not want to be lynched because no alignment wants to be lynched hey look i'm buddy cop thingying

[DrCirno]

So if you don't want RC to have his way all the time, don't act all emotional and shit.

[RadiantCowbells]

or they ignore RC telling them that the fucking trust telling fuck is scum and townread the trust telling fuck anyway

[Menalque]

Yes, which is exactly the point. Either RC dominates the gamestate to the point where you give up and leave and he gets to strongarm people 1 by 1 into doing what he wants. Or you stay fighting, apathy increases and increases and eventually people just give up and vote, and there’s a good chance they go “huh, RC’s pretty good and idk who the scum is, let’s vote with him”

[RadiantCowbells]

i'm not saying that you have to like playing with me i'm saying that i don't feel like i'm doing something wrong.

[Menalque]

i don't think my strategies for killing my scumreads are different from other people's strategies for killing their scumreads outside of the fact that mine are more effective.

You post more in thread and are more effective at coercing people

[DrCirno]

Yes, which is exactly the point. Either RC dominates the gamestate to the point where you give up and leave and he gets to strongarm people 1 by 1 into doing what he wants. Or you stay fighting, apathy increases and increases and eventually people just give up and vote, and there’s a good chance they go “huh, RC’s pretty good and idk who the scum is, let’s vote with him”

"emotional" is a keyword.
Seriously, nobody ever wants to consider 1v1 mixed with emotion seriously.

[DrCirno]

Now I wish I was really scum with RC this game because that means we're good-cop-bad-copping poor Menalque lol

[RadiantCowbells]

like i totally see why you would not be having the greatest experience here but like i'm not doing something wrong. i understand that it feels helpless and what not.

You post more in thread and are more effective at coercing people

well yeah. but that's not like a different thing it's just being more effective on the axis of quantity and idk what axis you'd call the other thing
like i consider myself the logical limit of how effective pushing can be when i'm properly motivated to sit in a thread and beat someone up

[Menalque]

i'm not saying that you have to like playing with me i'm saying that i don't feel like i'm doing something wrong.

I wouldn’t mind playing with you if you weren’t scum pushing my mislynch

[RadiantCowbells]

bro drcirno you are making literally the worst choices of posts to not give menalque ammunition to call us svs

[Menalque]

Now I wish I was really scum with RC this game because that means we're good-cop-bad-copping poor Menalque lol

Could you openwolf a little more for the audience please ty

[DrCirno]

What is openwolfing
I'm the best

deepwolf

, even more than the man Dannflor.

[Menalque]

I think it is very hard for the average person not to respond to being hard pushed as a mislynch by scum regardless of intentions to not respond emotionally

[Menalque]

Bringing up Ali v Pine is a bit uncalled for tbh but if you wanna go there cool

[DrCirno]

I mean he's shittalking baton pass a lot too and I was in that game.

[RadiantCowbells]

I think it is very hard for the average person not to respond to being hard pushed as a mislynch by scum regardless of intentions to not respond emotionally

Bringing up Ali v Pine is a bit uncalled for tbh but if you wanna go there cool

first off: i'm town, there's rly no need to use this discussion to try to towntell (you can just use neutral phrasing) and i think generally reactions to pressure are pretty NAI, at least from me. second off lol at you guys lynching LLD d1 then flailing the rest of the game

[RadiantCowbells]

[quote="In post 2869, DrCirno"][/quote]

you were the one person who wasn't gting

[RadiantCowbells]

except when u selfhammered

i planned to post in twilight holy shit we should have lynched gdgw omg

[RadiantCowbells]

i was also hoping to fool you that we were scum by quickhammering after you voted

[Menalque]

I mean regardless of alignment I think bringing up Ali v Pine is a shitty thing to do