Open 767: Nomination Mafia [Day 7]

[GuiltyLion]

man I don't know how you all have this much time to play all the time I literally only can make it to this site like once or twice per day especially on weekends

I haven't read a bunch of the latest stuff yet but was gonna say some time ago (maybe 16-18 pages back) there was all this talk about how GL is scum who is fine with the current game state which means there must be a scum in the town block bc otherwise my play isn't serving a clear agenda

which should instead speak to why I'm town because there is no agenda to my posting or votes, like the idea that I'm scum because I'm content with this gamestate is just wildly off-base and reachy

and it seems like everyone ignored my point about how cirrno said he hadn't read the game on replace in but then said he replaced in because pisskop is obvious town?

[Menalque]

I mean it's pretty much just been RC and I going back and forth for about 20 pages with him open wolfing but people apparently TRing him for it

so at this point it's looking like an RC/mena dichotomy for the lynch today, and I'm p sure cirno is his partner

[Menalque]

the most useful thing you can do rn is voting RC because it looks like I may well flip at this point and I think that conf!towns anyone not on my wagon

[Menalque]

because I refuse to believe that given my play this game, I go through without both scum being on me

[GuiltyLion]

I'm trying to speed read through it right now while I have some free time but realistically I really don't want to commit to voting in that dichotomy right now. do we have a current VC? what's RC's read on cirno?

[Menalque]

current VC is I think 2 votes on both me and RC but there might be 3 on me (I don't think suji voted me yet but can't remember perfectly)

RC is hard town reading cirno

[GuiltyLion]

also i don't think town GL is ever enough of a moron to vote me over my scumread in this situation.

I do think you're town here I'm just struggling to swallow the idea that one of my foundational townreads this game is actually a deepwolf when there's better slots to lynch today

[GuiltyLion]

alright it seems like the heart of the argument revolves around this point that scum!RC could just wait to throw down against Menalque in 5p instead of doing it now in 7p

and Menalque you're saying that's scum indicative because once pisskop-now-Cirrno flips red RC was gonna get PoE'd

and RC is saying he could have easily instead made sure to lynch outside of pisskop in (GL/nEE/Suji/whoever) for the win

this seems like the heavy point to chew on here

honestly I think RC's kinda right about that because I don't know if he needs to shield a scum!pisskop here right now he could have instead just turbolynched me today. but I do agree that prior to replace in it would have been a difficult game state for scum (assuming Menalque's RC/Cirrno team) if they got to Joey-Menalque-RC 3p LYLO. still though I really don't know why a scum Awoo just yolo replaces out like that unless he was giving up? Cirrno hadn't replaced in yet by that point right

other random things of note
-RC offhandedly asserting that 2/3 of mutant's scum reads flipped red bc he assumes D2 pool was guaranteed 2 scum?
-Menalque flip on Suji to town?
-check RC's claims on Titus meta around scumpartners

sorry I know this is very barebones just trying to take some notes for myself before I have to dip out again

[Menalque]

ftr I believe awoo's given explanation for the rep out and hope that everything is okay with him

[GuiltyLion]

Just a PSA that if I happen to replace out in the near future then first of all sorry for messing with the game and second of all its because someone may or may not be actively trying to ruin my life IRL so we will see how that goes, so far im safe but lets see ok

oh shit somehow I had missed this post entirely

yeah that seems thoroughly NAI, nvm, good call out

[Menalque]

I mean I'm also saying that RC is scum because town!him is too good to push town!me here. My flip on suji is predicated on the fact that I feel strongly confident (75% roughly) on RC/cirno being the team.

[GuiltyLion]

I guess it would make sense for scum!Awoo to be tunneling town!Suji in that world, I did think it was strange that he was casually parking his vote on me while talking about how he wanted the Suji lynch

[GuiltyLion]

Also I'm pretty sure none of y'all actually plan to follow the receiving end of the 1v1 so all these "ooh lynch me if other flip green" is completely meaningless to me.
So if y'all can just stop with this "lynch me if other flips green" bullshit I'd be happy.

also lol this is why I always only offer that deal on the basis of me being lynched first

[GuiltyLion]

mehhh

I just want to lynch Cirrno still. idk. the explicitly WIFOMy blatant sheeping of RC is scummy as well

generally I see where RC's overall coming from with the larger point that the game state felt very coast-y and complacent before the replace-ins implying a deepwolf and ruling out teams that were always losing to PoE. and that does make it best to resolve this today. I think if forced to choose I would like 60% vote RC over Menalque buuuut that's not at all solid and kinda more just based on the wagon compositions themselves

probably be back for a lil late late tonight please don't leave me with another 15 pages in the meantime

[GuiltyLion]

I guess nEE being a Menalque partner does make sense if I truly have borked the Cirrno read

and it feels wrong to agree with RC's larger overall philosophy but then vote him

blah

Cirrno who's Menalque's potential partner(s) in your eyes, you have nEE as town

gl is not a valid answer

Joey/Suji you should chime in on this too

[Menalque]

I'll lynch cirno today on the condition that after he flips red we stop fucking around and lynch RC next opportunity that comes up

how does that sound?

[Menalque]

also, I want it on the record that anyone who scumreads me here forfeits the right to ever claim that they can read me correctly if they're town

and if I'm right on RC scum then we only lost this game because town wanted to

[RadiantCowbells]

I'll lynch cirno today on the condition that after he flips red we stop fucking around and lynch RC next opportunity that comes up

how does that sound?

This is him trying to sneak a flip in front of me so he can't be held responsible for my mislynch

Jesus fucking Christ GL if you end up voting me that's unforgivable

[RadiantCowbells]

Like this isn't Menalque playing well and you being snowed

This is Menalque transparently being a wolf you pointing out that I'm obvtown norwayee being obviously his partner and you magically deciding that I'm scum anyways because I'm me.

[Menalque]

I honestly can't believe you can get away with playing like this and not being scumread for it

Genuinely mindboggling

People see the sound and the fury and they miss the scum motivation underneath

[RadiantCowbells]

Like your posting on this page is

1) this doesn't make sense for rcscum
2) this doesn't make sense either for rcscum
3) this ALSO doesn't make sense for rcscum
4) im going to vote RC 60% of the time anyway

Menalque is making every move he can to establish a situation where he still gets to townblock after mislynching me and he's so obvious about it on top of the fact that I've been obvtown after replacing an obvtown slot

[Menalque]

I'll lynch cirno today on the condition that after he flips red we stop fucking around and lynch RC next opportunity that comes up

how does that sound?

This is him trying to sneak a flip in front of me so he can't be held responsible for my mislynch

Jesus fucking Christ GL if you end up voting me that's unforgivable

no, this is me realising that, as I predicted, you would end up forcing this through slightly more likely than not despite me being obvtown

and realising that the best chance is to work with my TRs in a place where they might actually lynch bc a red flip from cirno now conf!towns me and lets me get your lynch done

[Menalque]

get ready for another 10 pages of fun everyone

[Menalque]

oh whoops lol, I misread GL's post, that's why RC is getting so salty here

I thought you were saying 60% me over RC

[RadiantCowbells]

no, this is me realising that, as I predicted, you would end up forcing this through slightly more likely than not despite me being obvtown

and realising that the best chance is to work with my TRs in a place where they might actually lynch bc a red flip from cirno now conf!towns me and lets me get your lynch done

If you can lynch Cirno you can lynch me

Just that lynching Cirno doesn't put you in a situation where you have to brush off me scumreading you

Like it's super obvious that neither NeE or Mena is actually reading me at all and they're just calling me scum how do we even get here