Open 767: Nomination Mafia [Day 7]

[RadiantCowbells]

Also look @ the shallowness of the reads

My locktown block gets thrown away when ppl vote me

Also if anything my townblock gets relooked at after his town flip, why wouldn't I be trying to discredit UTRs by calling them my townblock

What I'm saying is Menalque is saying a lot of things but his thought processes are exceedingly over simplistic, he's refusing to consider things that don't support the narrative he wants to push, and his SR on me makes even less sense now that he's abandoned 100% surety in DrCirno scum and both of us are faking the Awoo obvtown thing.

It took a ton of promoting from me for him to even bother to start arguing for what happens after he flips so...

[DrCirno]

Man now I want to flip NEE just because if he flips scum it confirms 4 towns.

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean it's straight up a scumpost and I don't think it points to either alignment Menalque specifically

[DrCirno]

I don’t like how this wagon formed at all. It’s like RC just shouted the town into submission.
If Menalque actually flips scum then it’s going to look bad for me, but i find this push really really bad. You better be right.

Implied that this is a mislynch + implied that all the non-RC slots are town.

I guess that makes 3 towns not 4.
But like Awoo sas says obvtown

[RadiantCowbells]

I think that's a little oversimplifying

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean I think he's scum too I just don't think Menalque is town

And man I don't want to go through another day of this

If Menalque is town he's been holding his fingers in his ears screaming lalalala I can't hear you since I replaced into the game and reading me in super bad faith

Like he is abjectly, openly refusing to consider evidence that I'm town. He hasn't given a single reason for anything since I repped in, just forming shallow ass reads that scumread people who are going after him. Then to go from that to "you shouldn't sheep RC?" No he really brought this on himself and like the whole "if Menalque flips scum bit" of norways post definitely points to scum menalque.

[Menalque]

^^^^ this is RC prepping for post-mislynch for anyone not paying attention, which I guess is basically everyone as people are actually voting me this game lmao

[Menalque]

He has to discredit me and say that I was reading him in bad faith for when I flip town.

[RadiantCowbells]

My entire case has held your refusing to consider evidence that I'm town as one of the strongest points against you given it serves a clear scum agenda of making sure you get to endgame.

This is nothing new that I'm saying.

[Menalque]

Nah, fam. You repped in and immediately targeted me for no reason while demanding that you be acknowledged as obvtown based on awoo.

Everyone here knows that awoo was never obvtown but they’ve forgotten because of you insisting he was for the last ~30 pages. Pretty much everyone here knew that I was obvtown until you came in and shouted about how I wasn’t non-stop for the last ~30 pages.

I never treated you in bad faith here but you didn’t even give me a chance. Everything was just a new opportunity to mine for material to try and get me lynched.

You’re now forced to say that I was treating you in bad faith because it looks like you’ll get your mislynch, and you need to be able to discredit my reads for when the town (hopefully) comes to lynch you next chance they get.

[DrCirno]

^^^^ this is RC prepping for post-mislynch for anyone not paying attention, which I guess is basically everyone as people are actually voting me this game lmao

Haven't I told you that 1v1 never resolves?
If you get lynched today, that's it.
That's cold hard fact.

[Menalque]

At this point neither of us makes it to endgame without the other scumflipping. So if you’re town then I was never getting there anyway and you had nothing to worry about. But you’re not town, meaning that with you flipping red I was always making it to 3p lylo.

[RadiantCowbells]

You're no longer scumreading DrCirno but you're still ignoring the fact that he replacing into the game at the same-ish time as me said my slot was unimpeachably obvious town and that yours wasn't: calling us both scum to discredit that was a smart move. But now that you're no longer able to hide behind that, two independent people replace into two slots and both agree my slot is obvtown and our opinions vary on whether you're null or scummy.

You don't say that one of them must be scum when we both had a similar ish view of the game.

Everyone here knows that awoo was never obvtown but they’ve forgotten because of you insisting he was for the last ~30 pages. Pretty much everyone here knew that I was obvtown until you came in and shouted about how I wasn’t non-stop for the last ~30 pages.

Appeal to population doesn't really make sense here.

[DrCirno]

In fact, this exact same thing happened in this game too.
RC was town.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=79373

[Menalque]

^^^^ this is RC prepping for post-mislynch for anyone not paying attention, which I guess is basically everyone as people are actually voting me this game lmao

Haven't I told you that 1v1 never resolves?
If you get lynched today, that's it.
That's cold hard fact.

If town fails to lynch RC after I flip green town deserves to lose.

[RadiantCowbells]

In fact, this exact same thing happened in this game too.
RC was town.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=79373

Note that Buki was in fact scum
Despite your hard TR on her

[Menalque]

You're no longer scumreading DrCirno but you're still ignoring the fact that he replacing into the game at the same-ish time as me said my slot was unimpeachably obvious town and that yours wasn't: calling us both scum to discredit that was a smart move. But now that you're no longer able to hide behind that, two independent people replace into two slots and both agree my slot is obvtown and our opinions vary on whether you're null or scummy.

You don't say that one of them must be scum when we both had a similar ish view of the game.

Everyone here knows that awoo was never obvtown but they’ve forgotten because of you insisting he was for the last ~30 pages. Pretty much everyone here knew that I was obvtown until you came in and shouted about how I wasn’t non-stop for the last ~30 pages.

Appeal to population doesn't really make sense here.

I’m potentially scumreading everyone on my wagon because there’s no way it’s coming from town?

[DrCirno]

^^^^ this is RC prepping for post-mislynch for anyone not paying attention, which I guess is basically everyone as people are actually voting me this game lmao

Haven't I told you that 1v1 never resolves?
If you get lynched today, that's it.
That's cold hard fact.

If town fails to lynch RC after I flip green town deserves to lose.

Just because some random person called me a bitch that doesn't make me a bitch ya know

[Menalque]

I still don’t think you get 3 town on me here given my play regardless of how good you are at scum. If you do, you’re even better than I thought. So while cirno is probably the most likely scum, joey/suji being on my wagon means they should never be endgaming after you flip red.

[RadiantCowbells]

I’m potentially scumreading everyone on my wagon because there’s no way it’s coming from town?

At least 1 person on your wagon is town.

If at least 1 person on your wagon can be town, everyone can be town really. And the fact that you've completely ignored Norway scum posting his ass off for the entire day phase to hide behind these lines in the sand doesn't make me think you're town.

[RadiantCowbells]

regardless of how good you are at scum. If you do, you’re even better than I thought.

This is just so dumb lol

[Menalque]

This is all just cirno and RC trying to set up for after my green flip btw. Ffs if you’re town don’t forget what I said.

[RadiantCowbells]

Menalque keeps creating these lines in the sand to allow him to interact with an oversimplified view of the game rather than actually engage the game in good faith.

[RadiantCowbells]

This is all just cirno and RC trying to set up for after my green flip btw. Ffs if you’re town don’t forget what I said.

lololololololol

[Menalque]

I’m not self-voting no matter how much you try to bait me into it here.