Open 767: Nomination Mafia [Day 7]

[RadiantCowbells]

I have gone 6 years declaring cop guilties on people and I was only wrong once when I was very drunk. When you say that he's town, you're saying that despite that legacy of correct sure scumreads your reads are still better than mine. If you're saying that, then there's something wrong with your ego.

Just gonna repeat this.

[Menalque]

Whereas RC has been fundamentally dishonest and manipulative about his “emotions” every time he’s displayed them in thread

[RadiantCowbells]

I enjoy scumhunting

But convincing bad players to lynch non-LHF scum is complete aids.

And it really makes mafia not fun.

[RadiantCowbells]

Whereas RC has been fundamentally dishonest and manipulative about his “emotions” every time he’s displayed them in thread

This doesn't mean anything

[Menalque]

I have gone 6 years declaring cop guilties on people and I was only wrong once when I was very drunk. When you say that he's town, you're saying that despite that legacy of correct sure scumreads your reads are still better than mine. If you're saying that, then there's something wrong with your ego.

Just gonna repeat this.

This depends on RC being town, which he isn’t. Everything he’s doing is trying to subconsciously make you accept that he’s town even while his demonstrable actions are not town and do not come from a town place

[RadiantCowbells]

Everything he’s doing is trying to subconsciously make you accept that he’s town even while his demonstrable actions are not town and do not come from a town place

Town never makes this post etc.

[Menalque]

Whereas RC has been fundamentally dishonest and manipulative about his “emotions” every time he’s displayed them in thread

This doesn't mean anything

Yes, it does. It means every time you’ve been putting on emotion it’s you faking it. Whereas I’ve actually been up and down through this and it shows.

[Menalque]

Everything he’s doing is trying to subconsciously make you accept that he’s town even while his demonstrable actions are not town and do not come from a town place

Town never makes this post etc.

Yes, it does, I just made it

[RadiantCowbells]

I have pneumonia I don't have the mental energy to convince you all to stop gamethrowing but make no mistake you guys are gamethrowing.

Yes, it does. It means every time you’ve been putting on emotion it’s you faking it. Whereas I’ve actually been up and down through this and it shows.

lol

[RadiantCowbells]

Ok bud

[Menalque]

And that’s more of you trying to do the exact same thing again

[RadiantCowbells]

You're still scum for the same reasons you were yesterday.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like if my case on you had changed from yesterday to today that would actually be kinda worrying!

But as it happena the same stuff that made you scum yesterday still makes you scum today because your role PM didn't change

Whoda thought ir

[Menalque]

Look at how his narrative around what I’ve been doing has changed depending on what he thinks he needs to say to get me lynched. At first I’m incredibly obvious scum, who’s been calculatedly trying to manoeuvre myself into endgame. But by the time I was actually looking like I was a plausible mislynch the narrative was being shifted to me being overly emotional and ignoring everything town about him I.e. a tacit acknowledgement of the town flip that was gonna come from me, and born out of RC’s need to be able to explain my read on him as other than “good” or “based on his play” so that he can try to get you to ignore it later.

[RadiantCowbells]

Sorry like

I have all this gravitas or whatever from reputation and consistent correctness and I can push reads easier than most people and I still can't get obviously scum Shoshin or Menalque lynched like

How is some random player supposed to win this from my slot even with perfect reads? How is half this game so pro scum for this game to be unwinnable

[Menalque]

Town!RC doesn’t need to try and sell the idea I was unreasonable around him if he honestly thinks I’m scum. Scum!RC absolutely does need to do so to try and sell the idea that we should ignore everything I’m saying after I townflip.

That’s not very in line with his earlier “I’m obviously getting mislynched if I am wrong” position from earlier, and the reason is that scum him CAN’T maintain that position because it’s losing.

[RadiantCowbells]

Look at how his narrative around what I’ve been doing has changed depending on what he thinks he needs to say to get me lynched. At first I’m incredibly obvious scum, who’s been calculatedly trying to manoeuvre myself into endgame. But by the time I was actually looking like I was a plausible mislynch the narrative was being shifted to me being overly emotional and ignoring everything town about him I.e. a tacit acknowledgement of the town flip that was gonna come from me, and born out of RC’s need to be able to explain my read on him as other than “good” or “based on his play” so that he can try to get you to ignore it later.

When did I say that Menalque was overly emotional ever

Everything else is true

You are obviously scum

You obviously were making plays to survive my ML instead of commitment to the 1v1

[Menalque]

I’m not obviously scum no matter how many times you repeat it

[Menalque]

If I was obviously scum then this would be over already

[Menalque]

I wasn’t playing around surviving your mislynch but that doesn’t mean that I have to yell that I have to be mislynched over and over if I’m wrong

[RadiantCowbells]

Town!RC doesn’t need to try and sell the idea I was unreasonable around him if he honestly thinks I’m scum. Scum!RC absolutely does need to do so to try and sell the idea that we should ignore everything I’m saying after I townflip.

That’s not very in line with his earlier “I’m obviously getting mislynched if I am wrong” position from earlier, and the reason is that scum him CAN’T maintain that position because it’s losing.

I literally set up a game plan for town to win if you flip town without relying on me. You kept discrediting my scumread by bringing up the Oh Lynch and have abjectly refused to townread anyone enough to assign them the backup townblock.

You're calling me scum for something that I didn't do but that you did and I already called you scum for.

[Menalque]

And it’s obvious that today you were trying to walk back that you always needed to be lynched after I flipped green once it looked more likely that I was on the verge of going through

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah you are

Just because a bunch of bad players townread you doesn't mean that you're a good scum player

[Menalque]

I called you scum because, again, I don’t think there’s basically anyway that after having seen this much material from me you could be sincere in scumreading me. I don’t think you’re that bad as town. If I’ve overestimated your abilities, I’ll remember it for next time.

[RadiantCowbells]

And it’s obvious that today you were trying to walk back that you always needed to be lynched after I flipped green once it looked more likely that I was on the verge of going through

Never did this.

I did say that I should be the 3/4 way lynch repeatedly.

I gave town a townblock to work with outside of me.

Menalque is conflating me pointing out that his logic didnt make sense at all with me trying to survive even though that's openly what he was trying to do and I literally gave Joey a game plan for post flip