Open 767: Nomination Mafia [Day 7]

[Menalque]

I’m not self hammering

All I want is for one of the people left in this game to fucking hammer me

Doesn’t mean that the fact that you’re this jaded means that you think people would do this as scum doesn’t change the fact that I fucking wouldn’t

[Menalque]

I don’t see how being a good mafia player can be more important o you than being a decent person

[Menalque]

I don’t get that I just dont

[Menalque]

I don’t want you to write some long post to this I just want you to please leave me alone until I get hammered

[Menalque]

I don’t even want you lynched over me right now because all I want is to be out of this game

[RadiantCowbells]

i don't know what lines people are willing to cross as scum and after shoshin and HH i'm never taking that chance again.
i'm sorry if this hurts you if you're being genuine regardless of whether you're town or scum but i've seen scum do what you're doing here to gain tactical advantage ad nauseam.
when i don't give any credence to this kind of play, it discourages scum from making these kinds of plays and makes a better meta for everyone involved.

I don’t want you to write some long post to this I just want you to please leave me alone until I get hammered

i can't do this and you have the option of voting yourself if this is really that traumatic for you.

[Menalque]

VOTE: menalque

[Menalque]

I’m town

[Menalque]

Everything I said was genuine and I’m crying rn and idk if it makes you a worse person if you’re town or scum here but I don’t think it’s good either way

[Menalque]

But I think the way you choose to play the game regardless is fucked up and now you know I’m saying that sincerely

[RadiantCowbells]

the kinds of people who are willing to say whatever they need to as scum to scrape out a win ruin empathy for everyone. i'm sorry.

[Menalque]

I’m sorry if the rest of town is upset with me but I literally can’t take any more of this game, sorry

[Menalque]

I would never do this as scum and the fact that you think you have to push people this far regardless of your alignment is inhumane and cruel

[Menalque]

Never ever lynch in Norway/GL after this if you’re town

Always lynch whoever is in the pool tomorrow out of RC/joey/cirno, lynch RC in 5p lylo

This mislynch doesn’t go through without both scum on me

There is very probably scum in joey/suji as that’s the “townbloc” RC is pushing for end game

Oh, also, everything RC posts after my flip should be ignored for obvious reasons. Literally, stop reading him. Freeze him out of the game, and lynch him the next opportunity you get.

I revoke the GL part if he votes me but other than that it holds

This is my dying testament not that anyone will listen to me

[GuiltyLion]

:/

Menalque I'm sorry. I should have pushed back more. I don't hold anything against you and I'd wanna play with you again sometime

[Menalque]

Just don’t because I have no way of knowing who’s being sincere here and who’s just looking for townpoints when tomorrow rolls around

[NorwegianboyEE]

This got really sad.

[RadiantCowbells]

i wonder how we got here.

[RadiantCowbells]

i never wanted to hurt you and i'm genuinely sorry that you did get hurt.

[Menalque]

Actually I’ve completely changed my mind because I do still want to believe that people are fundamentally decent and that involves thinking that RC wouldn’t do that if he knew it was all genuine

And if he would then, honestly RC from the bottom of my heart:

fuck you and never play with me again

So treat RC as like an IC and never lynch him here and hope he finds scum

[DrCirno]

This post is strictly non-alignment-indicative.

Not sorry over anything that happened this game.
Like I don't expect people to just hold back their emotion or know to call a V/LA and step out a bit when things get too heated.
Everything that happened in this game is perfectly understandable. As RC said, I don't even blame Mel for self-hammering.
But this excessive AtEing over being pushed is sadly a current meta of mafiascum.
And it needs to fucking burn. It makes games unfair and unfun for a lot of people. Some people such as Shoshin has started to exploit the basic human decency to gain advantage in a game.
I linked the Mini 2070 Day 1 as a hint that I figured things like this would happen again. As I said, it's exactly the same. The poor sap in that game was town there. RC was town there.
That poor sap (I don't remember his name sorry) acted exactly like this. And when the gamestate becomes bad like this, that person gotta go.
And then things become worse because now that receiving end will be even more emotionally infuriating over that.
That's how game gets dramatic. That's how people become apathetic over games.
Until this whole unhealthy meta stops, we have to be the "bad guys" and push off the overly emotional players. It sucks for both end. But it gotta happen.
And trust me. It's never fun to push emotional people.

[DrCirno]

My maginot line of human decency was holding back calling this a policy lynch.

[RadiantCowbells]

bottom of my heart menalque i wish that when you said that you were suffering i could take it as a genuine statement that you wouldn't make for tactical advantage.

[RadiantCowbells]

and it's worse for me because like... this is my legacy. i did some seriously questionable shit. i threatened sub outs if people correctly scumread me, i threatened to blacklist people for correctly scumreading me, i called people awful people for correctly scumreading me, and rather than get punished or ostracized for that i was given a scummy and lauded as a great scum player.

[RadiantCowbells]

both of my last 2 town games scum tried to use my wanting to be a decent human being against me and it profited for them in both instances. hugely in shoshin's case. i just can't.