Newbie 1961 | Trees II | Over

[DrDolittle]

i might vote vork

[DrDolittle]

because i don't understand why he looks townie to you rn

because i can see a world where he's making a good faith town-sorting case against you.

like i guess theres a world where he's also not making a good faith town-sorting case

[skitter30]

PEDIT 972 is ???

It makes tictac obvtown

Also i think u ruled out me/ddl too early

[skitter30]

Ddl i really dont like ur trajectory here

[DrDolittle]

Ddl i really dont like ur trajectory here

why not?

[skitter30]

Because i still dont understand why u think vork's more likely to be making a good faith case than not

[DrDolittle]

here's where i am at, i think:
skit > vork >>> zen
so if a skit wagon doesn't get support, then I guess I can shift over.

+ I don't like how vork is playing after his aggression didn't pan out.

[DrDolittle]

Because i still dont understand why u think vork's more likely to be making a good faith case than not

? because vork's posts echo'ed with my thoughts as well. And I am making a good faith case to sort u

[skitter30]

Do you think me/vork is svs?

[DrDolittle]

i could see a world where yes, but i dont know whether what's the odds I'd bet it at.

[skitter30]

I meant svt, sorry

Do u think we're svt?
Actually just rank tvt/svs/svt if you can, please

[DrDolittle]

But I think the svs probability is higher than normalized tvt probability, imo.
Pedit: svt > svs > tvt
[adjusted for count normalization]

[skitter30]

Hmm

Ok i'm p sure tictac is town, as is probably zenith
So i'm at 2/3 of vork/ddl/jan, in that order, i think

[Vorkuta]

Dejavu much?

Do you see me voting you?

vork on record on never bussing yet

can confirm

/jan, in that order,

Kindly reclarify this for me?
Is it just because she promised to deliver why she think I'm town and hasn't yet?

[skitter30]

No it's because i townread other people more and i doubt it's exactly hou/ddl

I would have liked to hear that tho

[Zenith]

Do you see me voting you?

Why aren't you?

vork on record on never bussing yet

can confirm

Don't like this, it feels like blurring the already blurry lines between meta and trust tell.
Is one thing to have someone point out a meta tell that you are unaware of, but to confirm that meta tell, plus for it to be something you seem to be aware of.. Either of those things alone seem to be crossing the line into trust tell IMO..

[Zenith]

Also makes me more wary of tictac..

[Vorkuta]

Why aren't you?

You're under skitter's protection so there's no point

Either of those things alone seem to be crossing the line into trust tell IMO

Ignore ^, shit like this deserves my vote.

Dignifying it with a response: bussing is suboptimal, and the town points + WIFOM generated isnt worth the loss of a teammate.

hi skitter

That's not to say I won't engage in drama with a scum partner (cats w/ nom as skitter saw), but it was under control and handled """carefully""" to the extent that we knew our drama wouldn't result in a lynch.
Also meta is 100% changeable. FL used to sweart by the "I never bus" mantra.
After 2 games with me, he rephrased that to "I never bus, unless it's vork for the lols"

TL;DR
Your 'vork is trustelling!!' point is ugly and a low blow.

[Zenith]

PEDIT 972 is ???

It makes tictac obvtown

Howso?

[Zenith]

Since you claim to never bus, that means you are confirmed town after a scum flip in which you clearly didn't bus. Right?

Off the top of my head I don't really see a clear downside for you as either alignment, other than maybe if you flip scum first possibly making it a little easier to find your partner, but it sounds good for town play so I wonder why everyone doesn't do this?

[Zenith]

UNVOTE:

[Zenith]

Or maybe I'm just dumb..

[Zenith]

Since you claim to never bus, that means you are confirmed town after a scum flip in which you clearly would have been bussing?

This is confusing..

[january]

Since you claim to never bus, that means you are confirmed town after a scum flip in which you clearly would have been bussing?

well if they truly never bus, then they’re never going to be clearly bussing

but meta isn’t really that reliable so the only real argument here is vork saying bussing is suboptimal here (which isn’t really true imo - don’t think it’s necessarily that mechanically bad to bus if you think you can towntell enough from it, esp when cleats have outed

i was going to say something else but i forgot what it was so i’ll put it in another message later

[january]

last post was supposed to say *clears have outed*

oh yeah and -

what exactly are both of you considering to be “bussing” ? like honestly right now anyone could push on their partner and know that they wouldn’t be lynched. are we talking about bussing as in lynching your partner or just pushing? because there’s no way you don’t push on your partner as maf.

i think this whole point is kinda useless. the only people who have been wholeheartedly pushing on each other are skit and vork - and i don’t think anyone is considering this as a partner interaction. but any other interaction, skitter or vork or anyone else could easily be “bussing” but not really trying to lynch