Open 767: Nomination Mafia [Day 7]

[Menalque]

This post is strictly non-alignment-indicative.

Not sorry over anything that happened this game.
Like I don't expect people to just hold back their emotion or know to call a V/LA and step out a bit when things get too heated.
Everything that happened in this game is perfectly understandable. As RC said, I don't even blame Mel for self-hammering.
But this excessive AtEing over being pushed is sadly a current meta of mafiascum.
And it needs to fucking burn. It makes games unfair and unfun for a lot of people. Some people such as Shoshin has started to exploit the basic human decency to gain advantage in a game.
I linked the Mini 2070 Day 1 as a hint that I figured things like this would happen again. As I said, it's exactly the same. The poor sap in that game was town there. RC was town there.
That poor sap (I don't remember his name sorry) acted exactly like this. And when the gamestate becomes bad like this, that person gotta go.
And then things become worse because now that receiving end will be even more emotionally infuriating over that.
That's how game gets dramatic. That's how people become apathetic over games.
Until this whole unhealthy meta stops, we have to be the "bad guys" and push off the overly emotional players. It sucks for both end. But it gotta happen.
And trust me. It's never fun to push emotional people.

We can talk about all this post game but the fact that you think all the responsibility lies on the player getting pushed and pushed in a particular way and not on the person pushing them or the way they choose to push speaks volumes

[Menalque]

But I’ve said my piece

If RC is scum here then he’s a piece of shit and I never wanna play with him again if he’s willing to do this knowingly to win in a forum game

So I honestly devoutly hope he’s town who’s just stubborn and dumb and wrong

[DrCirno]

I mentioned that pneumonia thing shouldn't be touched with a 10 ft pole.

Other than that, I see no wrong thing that RC did (other than the penumonia talk, as I said multiple of times, he've been quite civil!), especially if you consider his viewpoint not just yours.
He lost games over fake excessive AtE. Why would he believe that yours is genuine?
What is there to talk about his human decency when his trust towards one was broken by others?
This is why mafiascum had all these "gentlemen's promise" (You probably won't know because your join date is pretty recent, but it was a thing back in the day) to keep the game out of these moral dilemma such as this.
But now it has been broken. Now we can't go back until everything that ties to that broken promise is completely purged out.
Like I know how you feel. You were genuinely crying over, but your ourbursts were ignored. I had to ignore your outburst. It didn't feel good doing so.
Don't hate RC so much for ignoring your emotional outbursts. Place yourself in his shoes and think. If you were lied to by the overly emotional outbursts, could you have made such a statement?
I think once you calm down, you should consider what I said just now, and try to reach an understanding.

[DrCirno]

If RC is scum here then he’s a piece of shit and I never wanna play with him again if he’s willing to do this knowingly to win in a forum game

I'd say he's one hell of a hypocrite if he does this as scum, after what he've seen from Shoshin lol

[RadiantCowbells]

like i wouldn't do this as scum in this situation that knows menalque is scum but otoh i don't want to be spewed town by this?

[DrCirno]

What is there to be spewed when Awoo was obvtown

[RadiantCowbells]

i want to be tr because awoo was obvtown, not because the game went to shit.

[chennisden]

Menalque (4): DrCirno, RadiantCowbells, Joey_, Menalque
RadiantCowbells (2): Menalque, NorwegianboyEE_
DrCirno (1): GuiltyLion

[RadiantCowbells]

do you, like, not count self votes

[chennisden]

Menalque was lynched! He was town.

Scum got (expired on 2019-11-05 21:55:43) to nominate.

[chennisden]

Sujimichi, DrCirno, and Joey_ have been nominated.

(expired on 2019-11-15 21:48:31)

[RadiantCowbells]

Sorry guys love you.

[RadiantCowbells]

[RadiantCowbells]

Everyone not in the pool shut up for a bit, please.

Everyone in the pool, who do you think the scum are? Whether in or out of the pool

[RadiantCowbells]

Actually nevermind just do whatever

Don't vote though

I'm really confused by scums intentions with this pool

It doesn't seem aimed at forcing a breakup of the townblock

[RadiantCowbells]

I never vote Suji here. I think that slot is basically never S. I've reread it to death, that hasn't changed.

I think that 1/2 of Cirno/Joey is wolf

[RadiantCowbells]

If we don't flip wolf in it we lynch in GL NWee tomorrow

[RadiantCowbells]

I need to know now if you guys still scumread me for what went down yesterday because I'll take two very different approaches to the game if people townread me versus if they don't.

I realize that my being in the pool may at first glance not look great for me but I would have put myself in the pool here as scum. If I'm efforting enough to make yesterday play I'm ready to make the smart move, put myself in the pool, and get someone else lynched rather than do this which looks bad.

[Joey_]

third time i lynch a tr this game

[Joey_]

are you going to be the 4th rc?

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't want to trash talk Menalque but I 100% believe my SR was justified.

Idk Joey. That choice seems to be yours.

[DrCirno]

Everyone in the pool, who do you think the scum are? Whether in or out of the pool

All outside and not you.

[RadiantCowbells]

I think at the very least Norway is scum.

I'm uncertain as to whether GL is as well.

[DrCirno]

I think scum's intention here is clear. Because they know that list is nothing but a huge wifom they can just throw all towns there for an easy mislynch and aim for lylo win.

[GuiltyLion]

consider my vote on Cirno

again, entered and said he didn't read the game, then said he replaced in because he had pisskop as obvtown off of replacing out, when that objectively was in no way a town replace out

plus pk's sticky tunnel on me all game

RC I currently think you're the least scummy of the three voters on Menalque

Joey why did you give up on me so easily yesterday when prior to RC replace in you were insisting Menalque give you my flip