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[Formerfish]

This might be a perspective slip

Im not sure what you mean by this?

[Geyde]

Wait
No

Doc claim holds no water worth crap since C1 exists

So as scum, i commit to a doc claim even though if i were scum and in column c, i wouldt know what prs were out there?

If we are in C there could be 2 masons and a gambit would be dead before it started.

Im crazy, but not that crazy.

If you're scum
without this gambit you just die to PoE

[Geyde]

This might be a perspective slip

Im not sure what you mean by this?

You refer to "either them or their partner"
Farren flipped scum d1

That post was weird and I didn't know what to think of it

[Formerfish]

This might be a perspective slip

Im not sure what you mean by this?

You refer to "either them or their partner"
Farren flipped scum d1

That post was weird and I didn't know what to think of it

Drugs man, i forgot who flipped yesterday.

[Yodavader]

Alright, so first UNVOTE: for now. I will give him the benefit of the doubt.

If Fish is the Doc, then we are in A or B.

Farren was a goon, so that doesn't help narrow things down.

Fish claims that he was roleblocked. So, that must mean that we are in A.

So, any PR besides a Cop can cc.

I think I got that right.

[Radja]

Doctor hardclaim is suicide if Fish is scum
If there is a cc game's over

I'm inclined to just put them at tentative town because of that

That's not true. If Fish is a goon there is no CC and players might give him a pass for not getting counterclaimed. It makes perfect sense for scum Fish to do this

[Radja]

Wait
No

Doc claim holds no water worth crap since C1 exists

So as scum, i commit to a doc claim even though if i were scum and in column c, i wouldt know what prs were out there?

If we are in C there could be 2 masons and a gambit would be dead before it started.

Im crazy, but not that crazy.

If you're scum
without this gambit you just die to PoE

This so much

[faüstiv]

fucking hate night phases

[faüstiv]

scum just made this game harder for themselves by making the worst possible kill.

I was preparing to tunnel GildedSun today. now I have to reread.

[faüstiv]

I’m gonna buy Fish’s doc claim I think.

[faüstiv]

I could be swayed into giving you a pass for today to give the cop another night. But I don't really see any other options for scum and the way you claimed was just very poor.

I'll wait for others to weigh in

How do you know other pr is cop?

[Geyde]

I could be swayed into giving you a pass for today to give the cop another night. But I don't really see any other options for scum and the way you claimed was just very poor.

I'll wait for others to weigh in

How do you know other pr is cop?

The doc claim said they were roleblocked
That could only be one setup

[faüstiv]

oh yeah

[faüstiv]

This means Fish is likely town then to me.

If he’s CCing the setup then jailer or a mason can claim for autowin. Same with tracker if it’s setup B.

Therefore it’s setup A and there’s no doc CC. This means Fish is town and partner bussed Farren.

[faüstiv]

I could be swayed into giving you a pass for today to give the cop another night. But I don't really see any other options for scum and the way you claimed was just very poor.

I'll wait for others to weigh in

bad post

VOTE: Radja

[alimdia]

Maybe the kill on Gilded was because of their passivity (possibly mistook for PR trying to remain in background)?
That's what makes the most sense

This is what i took that kill to be. Its why I didnt want him to talk about it early in the game because he was painting a target on his back.

I get why people were looking at me so hard yesterday, and I assure you all it was played out that way completely on purpose, I needed time to do something, but unfortunately last night I wasnt able to accomplish my goal. There is only 2 ways that could have happened.

What is the second way?

[Formerfish]

Maybe the kill on Gilded was because of their passivity (possibly mistook for PR trying to remain in background)?
That's what makes the most sense

This is what i took that kill to be. Its why I didnt want him to talk about it early in the game because he was painting a target on his back.

I get why people were looking at me so hard yesterday, and I assure you all it was played out that way completely on purpose, I needed time to do something, but unfortunately last night I wasnt able to accomplish my goal. There is only 2 ways that could have happened.

What is the second way?

That was a draw for someone to fake claim jailkeeper. I hadn't fully outed what my action was, just that I had one and that I had reason to believe I was blocked.

Scum could have come in and seen an opportunity to fake a jailkeep on me.

[faüstiv]

actually this is very close to autowin.

Doc is out and claims roleblocked, therefore cop should have a report (unless they checked Gilded or FF).

I’m fairly certain Alimdia townslipped d1 as well so I think if cop has a report that wasn’t on Fish or Gilded they should claim.

[Formerfish]

actually this is very close to autowin.

Doc is out and claims roleblocked, therefore cop should have a report (unless they checked Gilded or FF).

I’m fairly certain Alimdia townslipped d1 as well so I think if cop has a report that wasn’t on Fish or Gilded they should claim.

No, cop should stay hidden because if they out scum can block me and kill him tonight. If they stay hidden then scum will kill me as the outed doc.

[faüstiv]

Or they could roleblock you and kill cop without him outting, losing the report.

If cop has report not on you or Gilded that’s 3 clears, with Alimdia acting as an almost clear.

We have 3 mislynches, so from my POV I know if I don’t die the game is won.

[faüstiv]

face it, I think the longer the day goes, the cop will PR tell and will likely die. They got you down as PR.

3 clears and a nearly clear puts us in an excellent position.

obviously if cop has report on Gilded or FF dont claim.

[alimdia]

Maybe the kill on Gilded was because of their passivity (possibly mistook for PR trying to remain in background)?
That's what makes the most sense

This is what i took that kill to be. Its why I didnt want him to talk about it early in the game because he was painting a target on his back.

I get why people were looking at me so hard yesterday, and I assure you all it was played out that way completely on purpose, I needed time to do something, but unfortunately last night I wasnt able to accomplish my goal. There is only 2 ways that could have happened.

What is the second way?

That was a draw for someone to fake claim jailkeeper. I hadn't fully outed what my action was, just that I had one and that I had reason to believe I was blocked.

Scum could have come in and seen an opportunity to fake a jailkeep on me.

I don't quite understand why any scum would fakeclaim jailkeeper? At this point in the game, scum could only possibly know the setup is one of 3 possible setups.
Fake claiming with a counterclaim, making it a 1v1 is basically an autoloss for scum.
Potentially someone could do a town jailkeeper gambit, but that is an even bigger risk, because instead of making it a 1v1 it becomes a 2v0.


Anyway, that aside, theres still a small chance that fish as scum 'guessed' the setup and just took a risk, as others have mentioned.


What are your reads now Fish?

[Radja]

I think I missed the part where the doctor is only present in one of the rows.

UNVOTE:

Alright, that claim is actually believable. It would be pretty ballsy to guess which row we would be in.
Wow I need to reassess and get out of this tunnel

[EspeciallyTheLies]

EXCUSE ME. THERE IS NO SET UP IN WHICH DOC AND MASONS EXIST.

VOTE: FISH

[alimdia]

Well then...

VOTE:

Fish