Newbie 1963 - Game Over

[Micc]

Votecount 2.02

the worst (1) -

Formerfish

Formerfish (1) -

JacksonVirgo

Not Voting (5) -

Fuzanglong, Uncrowned, eth0s, teacher, the worst

With 7 players alive it takes 4 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2019-11-12 22:45:00).

[JacksonVirgo]

@FF I have no idea what you expected me to find after reading your ISO, whether you put it down as being new or otherwise, you just progressively got cockier and had no real input outside of saying bugspray unintentionally claimed VT and threw shade at my readlist

[Formerfish]

I'm not new. At all.

Teacher figured it out, maybe you need a lesson yourself.

I'll ask the same question that worst got, what do you think Datisi was talking about when she told me to tone it down and that "we get it?"

[JacksonVirgo]

I meant me being new boo

[Formerfish]

I meant me being new boo

I figured that might have been what you meant when I reread it.

What do you think of teachers answer to worst that his read was wrong?

Meaning teacher is tring me as hard as I'm tring him. Do you think I'm scum who has successfully buddied the cop or do you think that I'm also town and teacher has just figured that out with a certain degree of certainty that he has yet to reveal?

[the worst]

problem w this is JV is being completely earnest and that still doesn't tell me anything further abt his alignment

[the worst]

their alignment** sorry
mobileposter, kinda went jacks=>he/him in my head

[Uncrowned]

From my current point of view, FF seems like the scummiest person here; if you have a problem deal with it
VOTE: Formerfish

just to compare: JV diving in with the vote here is a markerly more aggressive stance. JV also feels generally unapologetic for his read.

Normally I'd pin this is fairly town indicative but the "ig you have a problem deal with it" gives me like the tiniest bit of pause

basically I think JV is townier than Fuz which doesn't really come as much of a surprise to me.

I don't think Uncrowned/Fuz is a likely scumteam after #719 tbf. I think I had Uncrowned down to look at based off partner equity with Fish which I think I still want to be pretty wary of; I think I can say in a world where Fish is town I don't think Uncrowned has a particularly scummy scumbuddy

While I'm at it: sorry to drag you into the fray teacher, do you think I should be townreading Fishy? Not going down trust tell territory but if you think my d1 misread was stupid I'll shelf it.

The reason I didn't bring up JV in 719 is because he's held the same stance on FF for a while now, it's more consistent than Fuz who seems happy to join in on things once other people have brought them up. That's how I'm seeing things atm.

[Uncrowned]

problem w this is JV is being completely earnest and that still doesn't tell me anything further abt his alignment

I think JV is being honest, but I also think he's wrong. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and just say it's an incorrect read.

I'm interested in Fuz's response to what I said about her, and also want to see what Eth0s has to say about the game. That slot has also been pretty passive iirc.

[Uncrowned]

Give them* the benefit

I am also bad at looking at these pronouns smh

[Formerfish]

VOTE: Ethos

Scum content to not do anything while town beats the shit out of each other because scum isnt around to beat up.

JV is still scum.

[the worst]

maybe - I agree I don't like the "haha I need to catch up : )" posts but like he actually hasn't been online so I'm not really inclined to bite at the first one.

JV *might* be scum - sights more heavily set on Fuz aorn

[teacher]

Happy Birthday Duck!

[JacksonVirgo]

@FF, was what you're referencing before the

Touch the wrong half and I'll cut you.

If so, that completely went over my head before

[JacksonVirgo]

their alignment** sorry
mobileposter, kinda went jacks=>he/him in my head

Give them* the benefit

I am also bad at looking at these pronouns smh

All good, I understand why it'd be confuzzling lol

[Fuzanglong]

Sadly hunting for mislynches / town by gamestate isolation ("they have no allies itt therefore they're likely town") doesn't really work after that tell has been discussed in a game. Gyro was that townie this game. We're gonna need to get more creative.

I kinda follow you, but I still think it could be a factor? There's something about the pressure on FF that I'm not liking, especially from Fuz, since it's the first time she's coming out to say anything with substance against another player. Prior to this, she's only:

-Said you seem reliable.
-Voted on Gyro (second to last vote)

To me that seems like a reaction based playstyle that's giving me opportunistic vibes, since she only seems to jump in when something has already become somewhat of a consensus among the group (your slot receiving lots of towncred, Gyro picking up votes, and now the pressure on FF).

Let's be real though do I really know what I'm doing? But yes im town lol
Also i did say something against FF before but he shut me down so I was like oke cool beans

[the worst]

I'll explain why post-game Fuz - pretend Fishy and teacher are masons (or fishy and I are masons, if you'd prefer) for a moment. Can you see a scumteam which excludes Mr. Fishy?

[teacher]

I need to read this game still. Planning on doing a chronological catch up. Anything I should know before then?

can this be prodded pls.

[Fuzanglong]

I'll explain why post-game Fuz - pretend Fishy and teacher are masons (or fishy and I are masons, if you'd prefer) for a moment. Can you see a scumteam which excludes Mr. Fishy?

Honestly I really don't. I don't know what it is about FF, something about the way he's defending himself is ~fishy~ (I'M SORRY) or maybe I'm just a child who can't get past how aggressive he is lmfao

[Formerfish]

I need to read this game still. Planning on doing a chronological catch up. Anything I should know before then?

can this be prodded pls.

Sure, just vote him...

[Formerfish]

I'll explain why post-game Fuz - pretend Fishy and teacher are masons (or fishy and I are masons, if you'd prefer) for a moment. Can you see a scumteam which excludes Mr. Fishy?

Honestly I really don't. I don't know what it is about FF, something about the way he's defending himself is ~fishy~ (I'M SORRY) or maybe I'm just a child who can't get past how aggressive he is lmfao

Aggression is NAI. Do you have anything to hang that scum read on other than aggression? If not then I suggest you listen to the duck when he says you should consider me a mason.

If you're unable to find scum that isn't me then just self vote cause it's probably you.

[Micc]

Prodding eth0s.

[the worst]

@Fuz any chance of a tiered readlist?
If it can incorporate how strongly you feel about your townreads that would help me quite a lot

As a format I often use:

mechanically confirmed town

{names}

townread

{names}

townleans

{names}
null/unsure {names}

scumleans

{names}

scumreads

{names}

confident scum / mechanically scum

{names}

(or a variation on this )
if you don't like this layout that's totally fine, any will do, just I'm mostly interested in seeing the weighting of your townreads right now.

[teacher]

I’m disliking the lack of excitement/participation from several slots. Ethos of course, but I feel like tw has asked that several times and there has been no discussion of what is a fairly spicy nk other than from fish. Like I can’t see a good reason to kill someone who was universal PoE.

[teacher]

JV, care to join fuzzy on the readslist assignment, and also answer this?

So I’m your mind there is a legit possibility I outted myself as cop (a claim that gets countered in every single setup) with an inno just for the giggles?