Open 769: Venrob's PYP X/Y (Town Wins)

[Wooper]

suji you don't get meaningful wagonomics if you panic every time a meaningful wagon happens

who's vote/s worry/ies you?

I'm not sure what wagonomics are, but there is an interesting dynamic between AaronFrost and nomnomnom I would like to see continue.

talk to me more about this? i haven't really registered it yet

[Sujimichi]

Regarding your point about activity, I think it’s fair to say you’ve been scumread this game for both activity and content. That said, you’re probably Town only due to the Billy interactions.

Could you comment on how my content is scummy? This is something that I incurred throughout my Mini Theme game even though I ended up winning the game for town during the night. Postgame commentary was I needed experience, but that's not very helpful if my content is read as scum.

I still don't understand how activity can be read either way, so that could be helpful as well.

[skitter30]

why'd you vote then

basically
because i know i'm town
and i was interested in seeing what would happen

sigh

[Sujimichi]

suji are you an alt?

I am not. I am asked this every game I play though, and my answer is the same. I was introduced to this site by a friend.

[Sujimichi]

suji you don't get meaningful wagonomics if you panic every time a meaningful wagon happens

who's vote/s worry/ies you?

I'm not sure what wagonomics are, but there is an interesting dynamic between AaronFrost and nomnomnom I would like to see continue.

talk to me more about this? i haven't really registered it yet

Should I talk to you about my lack of understanding of wagonomics which was not cleared up for me, or the interesting dynamic between AaronFrost and nomnomnom which is apparent over the previous two pages?

[Luca Blight]

Activity can be scummy if someone is repeatedly delaying their catch-up, as you were D1. Obviously you might have just been very busy for about 5/6 days, but it could also be a scum tactic.

I described why I found your content scummy on D1 - playing devil’s advocate, not getting your hands dirty, playing it safe while looking somewhat useful. These are typical scum behaviours. As I said, however, I think you’re Town atm.

[Wooper]

sigh

just quoting this so it's in my iso and i can dig it up if i'm set to be the game losing mislynch

i kinda feel like d2 skitter from that game rn

[Wooper]

Activity can be scummy if someone is repeatedly delaying their catch-up, as you were D1. Obviously you might have just been very busy for about 5/6 days, but it could also be a scum tactic.

ye agreed
not interested in angleshooting/elitell etc. so won't be checking PMyst but i do think the way they're posting/delaying is kinda scum indicative

[skitter30]

or the interesting dynamic between AaronFrost and nomnomnom which is apparent over the previous two pages?

talk about this part, if you can

wagonomics is when you look at how wagons formed and where votes moved to and why to see if you can figure out what the scumz were doing at various points of the game

[skitter30]

sigh

just quoting this so it's in my iso and i can dig it up if i'm set to be the game losing mislynch

i kinda feel like d2 skitter from that game rn

i feel like your meta has changed a lot since we last played a lot, and i got to see that firsthand in c++ there

and that your response regarding your vote was townie in that context

but frustrating af too

[Sujimichi]

Activity can be scummy if someone is repeatedly delaying their catch-up, as you were D1. Obviously you might have just been very busy for about 5/6 days, but it could also be a scum tactic.

I described why I found your content scummy on D1 - playing devil’s advocate, not getting your hands dirty, playing it safe while looking somewhat useful. These are typical scum behaviours. As I said, however, I think you’re Town atm.

My comments on activity were truthful, and I find someone using a lie regarding outside life for an in-game advantage to be underhanded. I understand I may play devil's advocate, but that is for my own understanding, and I am likely to never change that. I'm not sure how I was playing it safe, but perhaps that can be a point for discussion after the game.

Thank you.

[Sujimichi]

or the interesting dynamic between AaronFrost and nomnomnom which is apparent over the previous two pages?

talk about this part, if you can

wagonomics is when you look at how wagons formed and where votes moved to and why to see if you can figure out what the scumz were doing at various points of the game

Post 1367- post 1381. What would you like me to talk about?

[skitter30]

i thought you were volunteering to talk about your thoughts there

[Wooper]

i feel like your meta has changed a lot since we last played a lot, and i got to see that firsthand in c++ there

i've kinda hit a point where i'm enjoying having good reads more than i'm enjoying making townie-sounding posts (which inherently comes with being less liked/'townread' at a surface level) and i'm kinda enjoying playing scum more than playing town

sorry yeah it's probably a super frustrating knowing mafia!me as long as you have bc my current towngame largely resembles my scumgame like 12-15 months ago

[Sujimichi]

i thought you were volunteering to talk about your thoughts there

Are there questions that you would like answered? I was responding to a direct question from Wooper.

[Wooper]

Should I talk to you about my lack of understanding of wagonomics which was not cleared up for me, or the interesting dynamic between AaronFrost and nomnomnom which is apparent over the previous two pages?

either
both
whichever subjects make your blood boil and your soul burst forth
give me everything suji

[Wooper]

@skitter cool new avi

[TheWizard]

nomnomnom (4):

Luca Blight, AaronFrost, skitter30, Wooper

AaronFrost (2):

nomnomnom, Something_Smart

Not Voting (6):

Sirfetchd, Kerset, Flubbernugget, Xayah, PMysterious, Sujimichi

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-11-16 06:43:00)

Heads up, I'll be V/LA for the next two days, so your next votecount will probably be Friday night.

[skitter30]

@skitter cool new avi

ya i'm trying to get the size/proportions right, haven't figured it out yet

[skitter30]

@suji
how are you reading aaron and what do you think of the fact that they are currently voting for nom?

[Sujimichi]

Should I talk to you about my lack of understanding of wagonomics which was not cleared up for me, or the interesting dynamic between AaronFrost and nomnomnom which is apparent over the previous two pages?

either
both
whichever subjects make your blood boil and your soul burst forth
give me everything suji

I don't actually think there is anything here to make my blood figuratively boil (funny ). However, I note that Aaron opens with a push on why nomnomnom while also positing I have scummy attribute due to my end of day behavior. While quoting the same post twice (1366 and 1370, and despite my similar assertion that AaronFrost ignored), he votes nomnomnom, while giving me the benefit of the doubt without explanation. nomnomnom the posts 1376 which skitter30 commented on with reasons for being bad. I would like to see Aaron's response to nomnomnom's post 1381 but I am currently debating internally whether or not this is a false interaction between the two.

[Sujimichi]

@suji
how are you reading aaron and what do you think of the fact that they are currently voting for nom?

Please see my previous post.

[Wooper]

how many scum would you say are in {noms, aaron}?

[Sujimichi]

how many scum would you say are in {noms, aaron}?

Potentially 1-2.

Roughly 70% and 30% confidence level for each estimate in the current state.

[Sujimichi]

For further clarification, I like to have "tinfoil hat theories" in my mind at all times.