Newbie 1963 - Game Over

[Formerfish]

Also, JV, I'd appreciate an invite from you.

[teacher]

Reread my ISO around sod2 and if you can't pick the moment I realised you and teacher were masons in realtime you need your lens prescription checked. I literally went from hard pushing you to saying we could resume it when the mood struck me and then asked teacher whether I should be sleeping his townread on you. I have no idea how I could have crumbed it more obviously and tried harder to save your asses from eating a n2.

Yea the facepalm was good.

But you’re better than to lose site of the count or think I wouldn’t call out an L-1 in the newb (though tbh I shouldn’t be faking a guilty either).

Were you hammer-testing or did you just give up pushing what you knew you couldn’t lynch and decide to pocket/lamist

[Formerfish]

*Unvote

[the worst]

vote my partner, teacher.

if you think I don't brutally comb rvs for crumbs like this fishy idk what to think. if you think I kill bugs n1 here I don't know what to think. I'm still in awe you missed my crumbing earlier in this phase and *actually* thought I would counter-claim as doctor after realising you guys were masons for any reason other than trying to eat a NK.

[JacksonVirgo]

Uncrowned doesn't have many posts at all and their readlist is mediocre at best, but I can't say shiz on that behalf lol

Also why are you set on Fuz being town?

This could be somewhat of a bus? I guess?


UNVOTE: FormerFish

So my read on the bluff was correct, and what do you mean by info I shouldn't have had?

[teacher]

But here’s the thing, Duck. The doc claim only appears surface level town. Like you could use that argument, just like you did. But it depends on me hitting scum with my “guilty”. And scum!yoh could m ow whether or not I did that before claiming doctor.

[the worst]

But you’re better than to lose site of the count or think I wouldn’t call out an L-1 in the newb (though tbh I shouldn’t be faking a guilty either).

Were you hammer-testing or did you just give up pushing what you knew you couldn’t lynch and decide to pocket/lamist

Hammertest - the guilty flew. It'd been long enough since a vc I was aware I could get away with faking an intent=>hammer and try to get a reaction outta JV. I'd written up a post about waiting for a vc before placing a vote then went for the fancier Route.

Not super proud of it but yeah. The cop guilty is definitely more irritating in a newbie game.

VOTE: Fuz this one probably actually hits red btw Jacks response is pure unless they realised I was hammertesting. they just need to keep posting imo.

[JacksonVirgo]

List ripped from the alive list and removed all 'confirmed' people mainly the masons and myself.

Fuzanglong - Scum
Uncrowned - Scum
eth0s - Town
the worst - Town

If the scum insists of newb!scum it's Fuz and Uncrowned. And even I wouldn't have attacked bugspray as scum so I doubt the worst or eth0s would have but the other two may as well have.

[teacher]

cop guilty is definitely more irritating in a newbie game.

Agree. I need to step away for a bit like I did in June. I’ve been unfun recently.

[the worst]

But here’s the thing, Duck. The doc claim only appears surface level town. Like you could use that argument, just like you did. But it depends on me hitting scum with my “guilty”. And scum!yoh could m ow whether or not I did that before claiming doctor.

indeed
but you accept that it's either

town me trying to eat a NK, or
scum me trying to look like I'm trying to eat a nk

right? do you want me to go through my ISO and show you the moment I noticed you and fishy were masons?

I'm actually arrogant enough to say I think my scumgame is good enough to try and join in your gambit as scum, so I'd call my claim net NAI. We could work off the rest of my play instead?

[teacher]

Also, se!scum should theoretically know counter claiming a guilty is the highest ev.

But duck, if the facepalm is when you solved it, why do you think you missed it before? I would have thought the “brother” “master” “robe duty” “mystical” “partner” “wrong half” breadloaves were more than enough for a quacker like you even before FF explained his hammer.

[Uncrowned]

Bussing Fuz? I had that slot as a SL since D1, and was planning on pressuring the slot prior to Gyro getting lynched quicker than I thought he would've.

Ethos having them as clear town is weird to me, I want to know why he thinks that because I don't see it at all yet.

[the worst]

cop guilty is definitely more irritating in a newbie game.

Agree. I need to step away for a bit like I did in June. I’ve been unfun recently.

I've been enjoying playing with you a lot, lately, though in fairness we haven't played together prior since like... before June. The crux of what I wanted to say post-game is if I were a newbie in this gamestate I think I'd be a bit disheartened as either alignment. I do think Fuz's posting in particular has had a frozen tonality which I would actually expect from scum who risk being cornered by a guilty - so it might have been of some use

[JacksonVirgo]

Hi Guys! I'm new (like completely new, I barely understand Mafia) and I joined mafiascum because I tried epicmafia and they banned me and were being mean lmao even though I told them that I was still learning :/ this seems like a more supportive environment to learn mafia
Anyway I am super overwhelmed by the 18 page forum for now and I will be as active as possible because I want to learn fast (but in hindsight I prob should've familiarized myself with the rules oops)
Please bear with me!

UNVOTE: teacher
I'm conflicted so im taking back whatever the person before me voted until i can get more info

I'm formulating some thoughts on who I think is scum but I think for sure it isn't teacher? But like what do i know lmao

How many scum am I supposed to assume there is?

Their whole ISO is practically "I am gathering a info"

[Formerfish]

cop guilty is definitely more irritating in a newbie game.

Agree. I need to step away for a bit like I did in June. I’ve been unfun recently.

I disagree. We cooked that Gambit up together and I think we have the ability to do that because of our roles. You may not like it, but that's an after game discussion. You could easily be scum here negging our play to pluck our heart strings and AtE the fuck out of us.

[the worst]

Also, se!scum should theoretically know counter claiming a guilty is the highest ev.

But duck, if the facepalm is when you solved it, why do you think you missed it before? I would have thought the “brother” “master” “robe duty” “mystical” “partner” “wrong half” breadloaves were more than enough for a quacker like you even before FF explained his hammer.

I'm wondering how much we've played together suddenly - I low-key hate combing for mechanical/crumb stuff unless I like explicitly need to. I literally didn't try until fishy hit me on the head with a stale baguette d2. You probably won't take my word for it but it's one of my most insidious towntells.

I just recently finished a game where Egix used a find a word on "MEDIC" in like one of his first posts, I read his ISO like 5 times and still scumread him for it until it was pointed out to me.

[teacher]

^ yea, I lost sight of my general goal in these games. Idk. But let’s leave that (the nonsolving aspect) fn.

pEdit:this was at duck, but I think FF is right too. This isn’t the time.

[JacksonVirgo]

You asked me to keep posting but it's 12:30 am here in australia and I am tired as bazongapops, I hope sleeping doesn't re-add me to the scum-team

[the worst]

cop guilty is definitely more irritating in a newbie game.

Agree. I need to step away for a bit like I did in June. I’ve been unfun recently.

I disagree. We cooked that Gambit up together and I think we have the ability to do that because of our roles. You may not like it, but that's an after game discussion. You could easily be scum here negging our play to pluck our heart strings and AtE the fuck out of us.

...which is why I've downplayed how distasteful that gambit is and focused on solving the game until literally this post.

Sure thing, Fishy.

[Uncrowned]

Uncrowned doesn't have many posts at all and their readlist is mediocre at best, but I can't say shiz on that behalf lol

You said yourself that inactivity doesn't mean a slot should be pressured. Interesting you bring that up now.

And my readlist was at the beginning of the game and besides the incorrect read on Gyro I think has been somewhat accurate. Not sure what you're going for there.

[JacksonVirgo]

Uncrowned doesn't have many posts at all and their readlist is mediocre at best, but I can't say shiz on that behalf lol

You said yourself that inactivity doesn't mean a slot should be pressured. Interesting you bring that up now.

And my readlist was at the beginning of the game and besides the incorrect read on Gyro I think has been somewhat accurate. Not sure what you're going for there.

I am just going to say that scum would know who the town are so you can't really lean on that as your saving grace.

[JacksonVirgo]

@uncrowned, who'd you put as your scum-team?

[JacksonVirgo]

I'll reply to any questions tomorrow, I've got to sleep

[the worst]

Me too. I'm just caught up in the flood of Things in this game. It's been bottlenecked for so longgggg we can finally play mafia.

[Uncrowned]

VOTE: Fuz

Maybe you're passive town, but your playstyle seems opportunistic to me.

Also still want Ethos to explain why Fuz is "clearly town" from his POV.