Open 769: Venrob's PYP X/Y (Town Wins)

Sirfetchd · Post Post #1625 (ISO) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:12 am

Kinda feeling like it's the vogue thing to have me at null scum at the moment.

I'm about to go to bed, but if people want a chat, lets make it happen. Because I have never seen a more unanimous "maybe this guy is scum but none of us are actually feeling it but maybe?" bc that's just mafia y'all.

Also I need to sort everyone too. So hold me to 1 on 1 chats.

Sujimichi · Post Post #1626 (ISO) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:18 am

In post 1625, Sirfetchd wrote:Kinda feeling like it's the vogue thing to have me at null scum at the moment.

I'm about to go to bed, but if people want a chat, lets make it happen. Because I have never seen a more unanimous "maybe this guy is scum but none of us are actually feeling it but maybe?" bc that's just mafia y'all.

Also I need to sort everyone too. So hold me to 1 on 1 chats.

I actually have you as a scum lean, not null scum, given your defense and interactions with Billy and his interactions with you. If not for nomnomnom and AaronFrost, I would be voting you.

Luca Blight · Post Post #1627 (ISO) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:18 am

I’m still undecided about you but starting to lean a little more to the town-side.

I’m feeling a bit frustrated atm because I have strong scumreads on all of Flubs, Noms and Frost, and it’s hard to put one read above the other atm. Then there’s PM who is basically not playing and is therefore unreadable. Xayah could also be doing a lot more.

Sirfetchd · Post Post #1628 (ISO) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:21 am

I still reckon the Billy flip means nothing for reads on Xayah fwiw.
@suji: same diff.

Sujimichi · Post Post #1629 (ISO) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:23 am

In post 1628, Sirfetchd wrote:I still reckon the Billy flip means nothing for reads on Xayah fwiw.
@suji: same diff.

It's not the "same difference" as I have two null-scum reads that I would not vote over you. If it was the "same difference" I wouldn't have two separate categories.

Luca Blight · Post Post #1630 (ISO) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:30 am

Fetchd, any thoughts on Frost and Flubs’ since the latter returned?

Luca Blight · Post Post #1631 (ISO) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:32 am

And where do you currently stand on Nom @Fetchd

Luca Blight · Post Post #1632 (ISO) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:48 am

I actually think getting a claim out of Flubs is necessary at this stage given Fetchd’s comments.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Flubs

ISO · Post Post #1633 (ISO) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:05 am

In post 1623, nomnomnom wrote:how do you reconcile the fact that your top 2 scumreads are people that scumread each other

having two people as top scumreads does not imply that you think they are scum with each other, when only two scum remain.

Luca Blight · Post Post #1634 (ISO) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:07 am

SS, do you agree that Flubs should claim?

Kerset · Post Post #1635 (ISO) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:41 am

Luca what do you think about vigilantes reveal? 1553

Luca Blight · Post Post #1636 (ISO) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:48 am

It seems a fair suggestion, I have no problem with it.

ISO · Post Post #1637 (ISO) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:07 am

In post 1634, Luca Blight wrote:SS, do you agree that Flubs should claim?

Only if he's investigative, otherwise it doesn't really matter what he is.

AaronFrost · Post Post #1638 (ISO) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:15 am

@Mod

can we get a prod on PM?

AaronFrost · Post Post #1639 (ISO) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:17 am

In post 1627, Luca Blight wrote:I’m still undecided about you but starting to lean a little more to the town-side.

I’m feeling a bit frustrated atm because I have strong scumreads on all of Flubs, Noms and Frost, and it’s hard to put one read above the other atm. Then there’s PM who is basically not playing and is therefore unreadable. Xayah could also be doing a lot more.

wooper, PM, Xayah and Flubb could all be doing more. That's like 1/3 of the playerlist not doing anything. SS hasn't done much today either.

Like tinfoil hat theory, scum might just be coasting off the conflict between me and nom.

AaronFrost · Post Post #1640 (ISO) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:18 am

In post 1632, Luca Blight wrote:I actually think getting a claim out of Flubs is necessary at this stage given Fetchd’s comments.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Flubs

Why is that?

Kerset · Post Post #1641 (ISO) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:21 am

In post 1628, Sirfetchd wrote:I still reckon the Billy flip means nothing for reads on Xayah fwiw.
@suji: same diff.

I agree. The fact that she was the counterwagon wasn't either her or billy desire. With this two flips alone i am not sure, who scumteam wanted to lynch on D1 but nom3 or flub flip would solve it.

TheWizard · Post Post #1642 (ISO) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:57 am

PMysterious has been prodded for inactivity.

Wooper · Post Post #1643 (ISO) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:43 am

skitter30 · Post Post #1644 (ISO) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:17 pm

In post 1557, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 1408, skitter30 wrote:tone

it's generic and feels LAMIST-y

again there's the whole 'reacting to a potential lynch as if it's immediate' when it, in actuality, is not; this always looks survivalistic to me
Iirc Aaron and Billy were opposition wagons yesterday too so having them as today's lynch is a non starter

i'm not sure what this is a response too, sorry

skitter30 · Post Post #1645 (ISO) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:20 pm

In post 1568, AaronFrost wrote:Understandable criticism. Being completely honest, there were aspects of this setup that confused me at first such as the draft pick. And I did acknowledge that Billy was unlikely to be a PR but there was still a small chance that he could've gotten one. Calling attention to my partner's potential role like that is something I would never do as scum.

yeah idk it's a weird thing to say about a partner who is, in fact, vanilla

i could see a partner saying that a scum pr and are trying to provide them the oppurtunity to claim but billy flipped goon so

skitter30 · Post Post #1646 (ISO) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:21 pm

In post 1572, Luca Blight wrote:I’m getting the feeling more and more that Frost is scum after all.

i'm not sure i'm seeing it

In post 1573, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 1571, Luca Blight wrote:Rb wasn’t scumreading Nom, though.
rb was scumreading Kerset and Xayah and you've said both of them you think are town.

ya i think there's a p decent chance that there's scum in the people he was pushing

Kerset · Post Post #1647 (ISO) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:22 pm

Aaron and nom are still my scumreads. Aaron really lack of universal approach his arguments, which could be applied to anyone if you try hard enough. Meantime nom3 posts look more like they would be schemed. When aaron create bad thoughts, nom3 joins other people ideas. The thing is that she also joined low quality leads like she wouldn't mind about doubting them. I would rather believe that aaron is just playing badly then in nom3 naivety.
The third person that is bothering me is S_S. He is here but he is not engaged at all. The further in game we go the less useful he becomes. At the end of D1 the only thing that he talked about was Billy. Such perfect call isn't it? He only suspected the actual scum but he had weak proofs and unvoted him near the day end. Now he placed a vote early(unlike previously) and even on his positive null. Perhaps he just lack of time to play but he smells like person who just knows alignments so he doesn't bother to find them.
VOTE: Something_Smart

skitter30 · Post Post #1648 (ISO) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:24 pm

In post 1587, Luca Blight wrote:So basically you were only going to take Rb’s reads into account if they were convenient for you, otherwise they’re irrelevant.

i think this is a remarkably uncharitable way to understand aaron's post, i don't think this is what he was saying at all

pedit no. weren't you on the nom wagon? plz get back on it, ty

skitter30 · Post Post #1649 (ISO) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:25 pm

In post 1594, nomnomnom wrote:Frost is just trying to pile up reasons to vote me lol

more shadethrowing