Perfect Masquerade [Game Over]

[Lady 5]

Evening all.

I have set aside all prior obligations for the night and my sole attention will be on this game. Anyone around?

No. Everyone got killed.
Your the only Town left! You win the game!

GG!

[Lady 5]

Can I auto accept any invitation?

Sure.

Great, I do that. VLA until Monday evening.

Watch Gent 8 swipe this!
LOL.

[Gentleman 5]

If G3 takes L5, G1 should take L6.

What if G3 takes L6?

In my opinion:

6>2>1/5

[Gentleman 5]

I might be biased but I don’t think Mafia would put in that much effort.
IDK I’ll take Gent 5 down to Null for now.

interesting that L5 and G5 both started townreading each other when I went after L5 and both for immensely shitty reasoning.

went after G5.

Agreeing = townreading.

K.

[Lady 5]

I might be biased but I don’t think Mafia would put in that much effort.
IDK I’ll take Gent 5 down to Null for now.

interesting that L5 and G5 both started townreading each other when I went after L5 and both for immensely shitty reasoning.

Interesting that if you would read and stop shading “OH MY” you would realize that I was scum reading L5 then switched back to suspecting you.
I was agreeing with you up until Gent 5 did the big effort.
Now where’s your effort you read thief?
And where’s the answers to my questions?

[Gentleman 6]

I might be biased but I don’t think Mafia would put in that much effort.
IDK I’ll take Gent 5 down to Null for now.

If Gent 5 is scum like I’m starting to truly think.
It probably went something like this:

“Ok Lady 5 seems bad, maybe I can trick her into siding with me. I don’t think she would leave the dance on me or scum read me”
“Holy shit I don’t think she trusts me enough, but I think Lady 4 does”
“I think I’ll ask Lady 4 out to attempt to earn her trust”
“Ok I got to make sure Lady 5 doesn’t make it to the dance or I could be fucked”

And the more I think of this gives me more of a reason to want to be in the dance phase.

I wanted you to live because I think I L8 is mafia and that makes you town.

Also, Im not scared of what damage you do.

why are you denying townreading her if you're town

[Lady 5]

If I can get Lady 4 to commit to leaving that will make all this easier. Otherwise I guess I have to try to make a case.
What all that adds up to, G5, is that you have no slots that you are unwilling to lynch and you're trying to use a read on a slot that isn't even mine as a shield against my scumread.

Like, my reads are
G1 is probably town
G2 is town
G3 is probably town
G4 is probably town
G5 is scum
G6 is known town
G7 is probably town
G8 is unknown-scum

L1 is leanscum
L2 is leantown
L3 is unknown
L4 is probably town
L5 is maybe scum with you? idk. i'm not actually trying to read her right now.
L6 is probably town
L7 is leanscum
L8 is -blanked-
L9 is leantown

see how i have townreads?

Nice, did you copy my format or make that yourself?
G8 is Unknown Scum? What dose that mean?
Time to see how much you pay attention with the next question.
Why do you townread Gent 2?

Is L1 lean scum because they aren’t giving that much content?
I love how you blank L8 but yet wanted to be with her so much.

[Gentleman 6]

I was agreeing with you up until Gent 5 did the big effort.
Now where’s your effort you read thief?

you townread someone for 1 minute to go through their iso?

[Lady 5]

I might be biased but I don’t think Mafia would put in that much effort.
IDK I’ll take Gent 5 down to Null for now.

interesting that L5 and G5 both started townreading each other when I went after L5 and both for immensely shitty reasoning.

went after G5.

Agreeing = townreading.

K.

Even better.

Null = Town

[Gentleman 2]

Ok, so we have 5 pairs right now
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Pairs

Gentleman 2 - Lady 9
Gentleman 4 - Lady 3
Gentleman 5 - Lady 4
Gentleman 6 - Lady 8
Gentleman 7 - Lady 7

Leaving G1, 3, and 8 unpaired and
L1, 2, 5, and 6 unpaired as well.


G6 asked multiple ladies (L9, and then L8 who accepted), as did G5 (L5, then L4 who accepted).

G8 asked L7 and then G7 asked L7 as well, L7 chose G7 over G8.

G1 and 2 have asked no one to dance.

L5 was asked, but then her gent asked another.

L1, 2, 6 have not been asked.

This got everything?

[Lady 5]

I might be biased but I don’t think Mafia would put in that much effort.
IDK I’ll take Gent 5 down to Null for now.

If Gent 5 is scum like I’m starting to truly think.
It probably went something like this:

“Ok Lady 5 seems bad, maybe I can trick her into siding with me. I don’t think she would leave the dance on me or scum read me”
“Holy shit I don’t think she trusts me enough, but I think Lady 4 does”
“I think I’ll ask Lady 4 out to attempt to earn her trust”
“Ok I got to make sure Lady 5 doesn’t make it to the dance or I could be fucked”

And the more I think of this gives me more of a reason to want to be in the dance phase.

I wanted you to live because I think I L8 is mafia and that makes you town.

Also, Im not scared of what damage you do.

why are you denying townreading her if you're town

I wrote the first part, not Gent 5. TF?.

[Gentleman 6]

I mean, townreading versus nullreading, sure, but both of you scumreading each other then randomly backing off when it looked like G5 might go down is immensely sketchy and I don't know how you can as town not see that it looks really shitty from where I'm looking that you were both going after each other but then when my reads became threatening you both went all in on L8 scum.

[Gentleman 6]

I wrote the first part, not Gent 5. TF?.

error of how MS quoting works. regardless.

[Lady 5]

I was agreeing with you up until Gent 5 did the big effort.
Now where’s your effort you read thief?

you townread someone for 1 minute to go through their iso?

Townread? Lol no.
Town Vibe? Yes

Gent 5 gives me both Town and Scum Vibes so that’s why he’s Null for me.

[Gentleman 6]

lol

[Gentleman 2]

So are we trying to figure out which ladies G1, 3 and 8 should ask to dance?

[Gentleman 6]

can we leave out L5 then lynch G5 please and have a really easy game

[Lady 5]

I mean, townreading versus nullreading, sure, but both of you scumreading each other then randomly backing off when it looked like G5 might go down is immensely sketchy and I don't know how you can as town not see that it looks really shitty from where I'm looking that you were both going after each other but then when my reads became threatening you both went all in on L8 scum.

Lol “might go down”

This isn’t Dance Phase Yet Kiddo.

[Lady 5]

can we leave out L5 then lynch G5 please and have a really easy game

What will you do when I flip town?

[Gentleman 5]

I assume that L5 and L1 will be left, pending insanity. G3 may surprise me and take L5 idk. Imma list my plans for when we get to the dance.

L5 gets left out:

FLIPS SCUM - Go after G3.
FLIPS TOWN - Go after L8, look at the L3/G4 pair, keep an eye out on G8.

Anything else:

Wait and see L4’s play, what G8 does, and what G6 plans on doing, and play accordingly.

[Gentleman 6]

can we leave out L5 then lynch G5 please and have a really easy game

What will you do when I flip town?

kill g5 who is scum and get mad at you for having the most moronic turnaround on an obviously scum slot just because he stopped calling you scum for 30 seconds

[Lady 2]

@Lady 2

these were for you from earlier:

Lady 2, I would like to see your analysis of the current matching as well as your reads list, if possible. The more numbers you can attach to things, the more jubilant I become.

In addition, how comfortable are you in your scum game? If you could have paired with any of the gentlemen prior to them making the matches they have now, who would you have chosen? If your answer is Gentleman 2, please also include your second choice.

Sorry I missed those!

Current matching:
G2-L9 - Good, lean T/T
G4-L3 - Fairly good. I do read G4 Town. I am less confident in L3 but kind of like G6/L8 I don't mind seeing it because I think it will be a +utility pair, like I trust G4 to contribute to reading L3 usefully
G5/L4 - need to reread G5 in full, most of his posting has been in the last day or so and it's a lot and G6 (who I mostly trust) has a strong scumread that I need to evaluate. L4 feels fairly Town so there's that?
G6/L8 - this is a reasonable reason for L8 to be in the game. I approve of G6 not fully discussing his read of her at this juncture
G7/L7 - I'll be honest I was kind of hoping to be asked by G7 but water under the bridge. L7 I still read as Town. This is the only pairing where I'm hoping for the Lady to help read her partner for the game, buuuuut I'll admit I lean Town on G7 at the moment as well. Which is great! It kind of mitigates my disappointment, I hope the two of them do indeed find they dance well together.

Overall the players left without partners right now are:

G1 - Probably one of my better options as a partner at this point. Oddly vocal about Townreading me early. I don't want to get too paranoid about being pocketed, but not many players seem to have strong Townreads on me right now, probably besides him strongest Townread on me is from L4 and I feel like L4 and I have much more direct interaction? I'm open to pairing with him but in some ways I'd feel better about pairing with someone I had a strong Townread on and they were questioning me than the other way around? But that train has sailed, as they say, my strongest Townread gentlemen and even G7, who I was less sure of but interested in have already paired off.

G3 - I actually don't mind his concerns about endgame etc. If anything stuck out to me I think being vocally, openly concerned about pairing to make endgame and coherently explaining his thought process about who he expected to get left out is Townlean. Scum don't

want

to appear overly concerned about making endgame, I agree that 1515 feels good.
Perhaps I should update in favor of G3 being a partner I would prefer over G1. Certainly he's been quite active, also an important quality.

G8 - Deliberately (????) low content, low information value, asks L7, a popular and largely Townread Lady out of the blue. Untenable long-term, I don't know what to say. Even if he becomes high content, high value - it could happen, but it's a nagging worry that it's +utility for scum to pair a strong Lady and not give any information pre-dance if they can get away with it without consequences so??

L1 - Needs to post more, not a fan. Appreciate that she gave some reads, at least but between two holders of the slot there's a whole lot of nothing. Seems to be offering content now but in an unfocused way, not really getting anywhere. I don't want this to be a case similar to G8, except instead of no content there's a token effort at content that isn't highly committal.

L5 - Hard for me to parse and I find myself resisting going into it because she's breaking site rules regarding outside influence relating to talking in-thread about potential replacement of her slot.

I would go so far as to say that this issue requires Moderator intervention.

L6 - I don't know. She has lots of mostly reasonable words. High volume of scumreads, but they're not terrible? Most of them are decent, though I disagree heavily on L4 scumread. I won't be too disappointed to see her stay.

If I could have paired with any gentleman in the game prior to matches, excluding G2 (actually not sure if I would have been an optimal pairing for G2 but I'd have been open to it if he'd wanted it and the overall utility seemed decent), I would have wanted G6 or you, G4. G6 as a strong Townread and strong player, you basically for similar, though I guess emphasis on my very early Townread on your slot - I guess just because my first thought was in making what I would be most sure of as a T/T pair, including with someone I could see myself working with, someone active and contributing, too.

Right now, the order of my preferences for pairing myself among available gentlemen is G3>G1>>>G8

I ... don't know how comfortable I am in my scumgame. I've had periods of deep lack of confidence in my scumgame and periods of confidence, but I haven't played much Mafia very recently so I don't really know how I'd feel or react drawing scum right now to be honest. I often find playing scum stressful just at baseline.

[Lady 5]

I assume that L5 and L1 will be left, pending insanity. G3 may surprise me and take L5 idk. Imma list my plans for when we get to the dance.

L5 gets left out:

FLIPS SCUM - Go after G3.
FLIPS TOWN - Go after L8, look at the L3/G4 pair, keep an eye out on G8.

Anything else:

Wait and see L4’s play, what G8 does, and what G6 plans on doing, and play accordingly.

I think G8 will be a miss Lynch TBH.
I feel them Null.

[Gentleman 5]

can we leave out L5 then lynch G5 please and have a really easy game

What will you do when I flip town?

The same thing I planned on doing if you flipped scum

Fixed.

[Gentleman 5]

I think G5 is probably town but has higher likelihood to be snowing town than other slots.

Also, I feel like throughout the game 7 has been super reluctant to give out townreads. She heavily qualified her Lady 9 townread in the earliest part of the game, her only real townread was me (universal to the point of being pointless to against), and she has since in recent pages gone against both her townreads on myself and Lady 9. Dunno.

Amusingly, I said that I wanted L4 and L7 with one as confident TR and the other as a slot that I wanted to sort via hood, but I lied about which was which. I didn't want to pair with L4 regardless for /reasons/.

What’s your read on them individually?

Lady 4 is heavily leaning town.
Gentleman 5 is really pro-town but idk. There's moments that I don't like that really stand out. Kinda just a feeling thing, that I don't trust the townreads there. Not like immediately going after them.

????????

G6 was drunkposting with L7 I see

Just gonna keep this in mind for later.