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[alimdia]

Profii did you also miss this? Wake not self-hammering was well and truly established by now.

This game is really frustrating to read. I think there's scum in Vork or Elements. Saudade is likely just a really obnoxious town player I think, his carefree attitude probably doesn't come from scum and he does at least try the most minuscule of amounts to sometimes reign it in. I think that both Vork and Elements were piggybacking off Saudade and too willing to scumread Wake for not their own reasons. Profii is less guilty of this, and I can see a world where profii is town that I disagree with.

The only strong reads I have right now are Alimidia and Elbirn, who I'm pretty sure are both town. I'm not all that sure about my scumreads, but there's also a lot of day left. I also think that this lynch on Wake is just a gamble. I don't think the way he is playing right now has anything to do with his alignment.

VOTE: Elements

I'm less annoyed at this game now, and gun to my head, this is where I'd lynch today.

What about looker?

[alimdia]

I wanna hear a bit more from UltimatePlank

He says he best town read is alimdia
And from the Wimpy-saga he says scum probably piled on meaning one of {elements/vork/Saudade}


My questions are - why is alimdia so town and where does elements come into it as I don’t understand

Also, whilst I agree wimpy is likely town I am not sure that sheeping his slot is the wisest plan - being town inherently means uninformed ergo doesn’t actually know who the scum is.

Do you not town read me good sir?

[Wake1]

Off you go then start the scumhunt

You've mentioned Looker a couple times and have casted some suspicion towards him, but I was hoping you could be more specific. Also, I don't like how little he's contributed to this game, and I think putting some pressure on him is merited.

VOTE: Looker

[Saudade]

The irony

[Saudade]

At least you didnt vote any of my townreads so thats not too bad

[Saudade]

Whats the timer until day end

[profii]

I wanna hear a bit more from UltimatePlank

He says he best town read is alimdia
And from the Wimpy-saga he says scum probably piled on meaning one of {elements/vork/Saudade}


My questions are - why is alimdia so town and where does elements come into it as I don’t understand

Also, whilst I agree wimpy is likely town I am not sure that sheeping his slot is the wisest plan - being town inherently means uninformed ergo doesn’t actually know who the scum is.

Do you not town read me good sir?

i didn’t say either way
I’m interested in where UltimatePlank gets his read from - because he says he does have a town read but I can’t work out why (from what he says)

[profii]

Whats the timer until day end

Just over a week ?

UNVOTE:

I think this will do for now

[Saudade]

Yeah lets chill

[Saudade]

Cant wait for your input wake88

[alimdia]

What about looker?

Off you go then start the scumhunt

You've mentioned Looker a couple times and have casted some suspicion towards him, but I was hoping you could be more specific. Also, I don't like how little he's contributed to this game, and I think putting some pressure on him is merited.

VOTE: Looker

VOTE: Looker

[Saudade]

Just try not to speedhammer the poor guy please

[UltimatePlank]

I'm a big fan of pressuring this slot actually

VOTE: Looker

[UltimatePlank]

Alimdia has been ignoring the shitshow all game and putting out original thoughts for majority of the game. They're doing a lot of things that are good for the town, and for Day1 I think it's safe to assume they're town for now.

@profii

This is why i townread Alimdia

[Saladman27]

I'm a big fan of pressuring this slot actually

VOTE: Looker

Why do you keep on sheeping others without any good reason? Why not even regurgitate the other wagoneers’ reasoning?

[Saladman27]

Also, please, get a pfp.

[UltimatePlank]

Why would i bother regurgitating reasons?

[profii]

Why would i bother regurgitating reasons?

Because it’s easy for scum to sheep wrong town and be like yep I just agreed with that dude he sounded clever

I don’t like that post, at all.

VOTE: ultimateplank

[Looker]

This post... Rubs me the wrong way.. in multiple places at once..

I feel like vague statements like this allow you to feign logic you don't have. Could you be more specific?

We should probably stop the quote quoting

Sadalaman: I'm not happy with his contributions so far.

Down to wagon on: Looker, Sadalaman, profii depending on his answers.

Join me fren

Ye sure thing mason buddy, your post 308 makes sense

VOTE: Sadalaman

You guys arent going to believe who my mason partner is

It's me obviously

I don't understand if I'm supposed to take these as jokes or serious claims. I feel that this is intentional. I feel you blast so much bullshit and fake news that you intentionally obfuscate the thread so that people can't get solid reads.

I Townread Wimpy's/Elbirns slot, so I will not be voting for him the remainder of the game, nor will I accept any votes directed his way. I do not believe Scum would just replace out like that, and I think that could be tactical replacing out (don't quote me on that).

I'm not comfortable making that bold of a statement. Regardless of emotional outbursts or choosing to replace out, I don't believe anyone is above review.

I'm not comfortable with Looker's activity level.

If you want my family, you can have them, but fair. This is why I emphasize asking pointed/directive questions. I don't have that much time, so, when I log on, I try to process and output as much as possible.

Because it’s easy for scum to sheep wrong town and be like yep I just agreed with that dude he sounded clever

I'm slowly remembering that this is the soul of every mafia game.

[Saudade]

Im giving you plenty of space and opportunity to make reads.
However Im not letting you read me as easily as you'd like.

[alimdia]

Why would i bother regurgitating reasons?

Because it’s easy for scum to sheep wrong town and be like yep I just agreed with that dude he sounded clever

I don’t like that post, at all.

VOTE: ultimateplank

so now I'm town

[alimdia]

I don't understand if I'm supposed to take these as jokes or serious claims. I feel that this is intentional. I feel you blast so much bullshit and fake news that you intentionally obfuscate the thread so that people can't get solid reads.

Wait so....

You're ignoring all the other people saying 'Papa Mason' and just straight claiming Mason with no partner but you think that I 'blast so much bullshit and fake news that you intentionally obfuscate the thread so that people can't get solid reads.'

Are you sure you're not only attacking me because.... I'm voting for you?

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... d_You_Suck

[Zote the Mighty]

In short, I can't stand Day 1. Least favorite part of the game. We have literally nothing to work with.

I don't mind hammering at L-1, but I will relax on it being a quickhammer, because we'd need a claim.

If something interesting happens during Day 1 then I'll pick at it, but I'm not interested in being paranoid-psycho on everything Day 1 like others can and do. It's a waste of my time. As bodies hit the floor I can actually start parsing out who is who.

Boycotting Day 1 entirely isn't the way to go about it though cur. There's plenty of information to be gained from wagons such as who supported it, who was against it, who hopped on etc. In particular I did not care for Saladman's hop on, especially with his intent to put you at L-1. It felt overly cautious .

[Zote the Mighty]

I wanna hear a bit more from UltimatePlank

He says he best town read is alimdia
And from the Wimpy-saga he says scum probably piled on meaning one of {elements/vork/Saudade}


My questions are - why is alimdia so town and where does elements come into it as I don’t understand

Also, whilst I agree wimpy is likely town I am not sure that sheeping his slot is the wisest plan - being town inherently means uninformed ergo doesn’t actually know who the scum is.

Alimdia has been ignoring the shitshow all game and putting out original thoughts for majority of the game. They're doing a lot of things that are good for the town, and for Day1 I think it's safe to assume they're town for now. Along with Elbirn they'd be the last 2 people I lynch in this game so far.

Couldn't this also be a way for alimdia to look townie as well without doing much. Yes they're contributing their thoughts but are they actually moving the game forward in a meaningful way? Honestly nothing I've read from that slot struck me as thought provoking in any way so right now the slot is null for me.

I was about to ask why you were townreading Elbirn then I remembered that they're Wimpy's replacement.

[Zote the Mighty]

Plus, the wagon itself was contrived. Nothing I had said warranted that trash-wagon, and I don't see any objective Townie actually running with it.

So if there is 1 scum and 0 objective townies

What does that make the other 4 players on your wagon?

I feel like you’ve just insulted 4 people by saying that

It makes them not-so-good at this game as Town. You don't just automatically believe things are Scum just because for some arbitrary reason. Me saying I'd quicklynch the first person who reached L-1 because I don't like Day 1 is completely nonindicative of alignment, and if you are in fact Town you acknowledge that or I will rip you apart.

If they're insulted, that is fine. I'm not here to placate people. I'm here to root out and lynch Scum.

I think this is a townie response.

UNVOTE:

I joined the wagon to see how people would react, because that's about all you can do on Day 1 is see how players react to things. I now feel confident in putting Wake as a nice townlean because his reaction to his wagon felt geniune to me.