Newbie 1961 | Trees II | Over

[Zenith]

I think it's scummy that you're refusing to answer that

I think you've been playing the newbie card

And the fact that you're ignoring me saying this makes me think it's true

How is it alignment indicative?

I've already responded long ago. Perhaps it was too subtle, but I think it's pretty obvious that I don't care to elaborate further.

I also don't care what you think of me. Nor will I ever care in future games, regardless of alignment.

[Zenith]

Ppl be talking like you some mafia genius. Maybe you are and maybe you aren't, I'm probably too dumb to know the difference, but from where I'm sitting it seems like you merely have a strong reliance on meta. Meta and assumptions. If you don't know something then just an assume an answer and go from there. Right?

[skitter30]

I do rely on meta a lot, yes

And sometimes i get caught up in (faulty) assumptions, sure

But i think in lylo it's time to reasses thise assumptions because scum may be hiding behind them.

And i've been letting you slide for like two dayphases assuming you're new, but after rereading parts of the game, it seems like you do, in fact, have more experience than i thought based on how you're talking about the game.

As such, i dont think i should be applying newbtowntells to you, because i dont think you're new anymore. And outside of that context, your posts are actually p scummy

It would be nice to get a straight answer, but that doesnt seem to be happening. So yeah I'm ultimately going to have to go with my best guess. Not much else i can do

[january]

soz i haven't been online for a little whille

yeah this basically confirms dolittle/teacher imo

but at the same time... what kind of mafia actually reacts that way in response to getting voted??

anyways this is way too much thinking for my peabrain and i'd rather get this over with if my one and only unchangable townread was wrong

[january]

sorry for voting u out so quickly but there isn't much you can do to redeem your slot and POE dictates this

VOTE: teacher

[skitter30]

Welp it's zenith/january

[Zenith]

Well since you like meta so much, I'll give you this spoiler. I'm just being me, and my future meta will likely include potential lynchbait as a result of that, regardless of my align, because I really don't care about things like my appearance. Not that I care about nothing, as I'd like to be able to help solve games and improve at reading people.

[Zenith]

Welp it's zenith/january

If this were true, then why am I not voting right now?

[Zenith]

I'll go ahead and post my intent to hammer though, because I think he's scum.

[Zenith]

Just in case my intent to hammer wasn't clear, teacher will at least have the time to catch up and give thoughts before my vote.

[january]

Welp it's zenith/january

i'm just as clear as you are for not hammering ddl earlier

try again

[january]

skit you're all over the place what's going on

[Plotinus]

Official Vote Count 3.05

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Lynching

With 5 votes in play, it takes 3 to lynch.

teacher

(2): tictac, january

Not Voting

(3): skitter30, teacher, Zenith

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-11-15 20:15:00).

Mod notes:

teacher is the new DrDolittle[/area]

[skitter30]

Welp it's zenith/january

i'm just as clear as you are for not hammering ddl earlier

try again

You didnt post, so no

[skitter30]

skit you're all over the place what's going on

You lot are playing lylo very confusingly and bandying about votes too easily

[skitter30]

From my pov:

- zenith/teacher
- tictac/teacher
- january/teacher
- tictac/january
Well then i guess teacher is scum if i assume tictac is town

[skitter30]

I want to doublecheck my tictac tr later and i guess then i'll be ready to vote

[teacher]

It’s a holiday at least for me so I’m out today and crashed last night (hence the vLa) but will post this afternoon around 2 if given some time.

[tictac]

morning, happy scumday to vork

is it worth asking who did not vote for shorter night? or is it irrelevant?

wanted to take time to think

this is what I came p with, plz tell me if it makes sense.
when things, fall into place like this, that usually means I've gone mental.

here we go:
fancy push on Jam could be an attempt to drive a counterwagon to zen. starts at 67
167 fancy defense of zen via nullread.
skitter enters and scumreads zen
doc enters and talks skit into voting Bailey instead

like out of the posts you highlighted out of zen I don't think any of them are particularly scummy. meanwhile I like his L-1, and the fact that he thought it was L-2... I don't think scum makes that kind of mistakes, and his other posts feel fairly good as well?

Bailey's flailing so hard and voting conf town in 579. This is flipping red

being confused is a reason to TR zen but a reason to scumread bailey? I don't think this makes sense.

My thoughts about the Bailey lynch was 'meh, I guess this will do'. I think most of ya felt the same. But not Zen and Doc. One took the 'pro'-position and one took the 'against'-position, like classic scum.

Regardless, I think there was very little reason for scum to get their hands dirty with the bailey wagon (after the mason-reveal).
Vork gets a townpoint for flipping his stance on Bailey when scum-him had very little reason to do so and a good reason not to.
The only non-confirmed person here who expressed no interest in the lynch nor intent to hammer, gets a vote

VOTE: Zen

i feel pretty good about this post rn.

Either ddl or tictac is probably scum based on how long tictacs vote has been there.

this is common lylo-logic tho, so a bit weird that it took skitt so long to accept it as true.
I expect her to be good at scum tho, and that includes knowing when to bus and how to commit to bussing
dunno if scum!her would actually waffle like this.

[skitter30]

No i understand the logic, but the zenith/january pair wasnt actually ruled out till last night when they were both on at the same time

[tictac]

No i understand the logic, but the zenith/january pair wasnt actually ruled out till last night when they were both on at the same time

i mean u use logic that makes more sense when there is no daytalk.
by the time of 1102 well over 24h had passed, and nobody but ya was VLA.
plenty of time to arrange a timing for a quickhammer without posting anything, i reckon.
but, eh.

[skitter30]

Teeeeeeeeeeeeeeecher

[teacher]

Just put the kiddos down. Going to need to brew my coffee and get situated to read 40 pages.

[teacher]

Anything in particular you want me to hit? Im assuming youre town (you can even call it buddying if you want) since I didnt hammered, so mostly going to be focusing on tictac/z/January interactions.

[teacher]

And the spam starts now. P1.

heyo
VOTE: iamveryserious

First to show, votes Jan. These aren’t serious pings, but noting for ISO.

VOTE: Suspicious

Statistics would say L-1 town wagon has one scum on it.

In a 9-player game, I favor the odds that scum threw in a vote to follow along the wagon.

that wagon composition looks like the set of people who happened to be online during those 15 min.
I suppose it's technically true that any random grouping of 4 players is likely to have scum in it at this point.

I do get beetlejuicy vibes from Zenith naked vote tho, like he seems reluctant to post, yet wanted to be on that wagon.

Bailey unvote looks more like he wanted to look scared of L-1 than actually being scared.
I think actually scared person is more likely to quickly unvote than take time to write a post about being scared.

Zen & serious: How much mafia experience do ya have?

LAMISTY? Like it rejects reading into the wagon/criticizes Suspicious for it/then proceeds to read into the wagon?