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Post Post #4425 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:17 pm

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If you actually are a gladiator, put players you really scumread, not players you find is antitown. It will really help down the game.
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Post Post #4426 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:18 pm

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Even the players you deem antitown usually changes as game moves on.
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Post Post #4427 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:18 pm

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So a policy lynch is a complete waste.
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Post Post #4428 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:19 pm

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In post 4420, Formerfish wrote:You are making it more difficult than it needs to be to grasp the game because of the speed you are saying nothing in.
There's a discussion about one or two players' alignments going on, talk about it.
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Post Post #4429 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:19 pm

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In post 4425, Creature wrote:If you actually are a gladiator, put players you really scumread, not players you find is antitown. It will really help down the game.
In post 4426, Creature wrote:Even the players you deem antitown usually changes as game moves on.
In post 4427, Creature wrote:So a policy lynch is a complete waste.
This is the same thought in 3 posts. Why creature? If you wanna live, consolidate your posts and be game relevant.
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Post Post #4430 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:19 pm

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In post 4421, Creature wrote:
In post 4418, InsideJob711 wrote:
In post 4413, davesaz wrote:
In post 4375, InsideJob711 wrote:And the minority of people who don’t play in this meta don’t like it, and these people play mafia infrequently.
I would be a counter example to that.
I'd also be an example of someone who just adapts to what happens.
and you have my respect for that

However, most of the playerlists aren’t Daves, and most of the time when I open the thread its usually someone going “waaah hyperposting in MY 40P mafia game? Waaah”
Yeah, they are players that mostly just frequent speakeasy and when they actually play mafia (once or twice a year) they always complain about hyperposting
this goes back to my previous post of
People who play in this meta like it and its important that they like it because they are the people who join games and actually play mafia
The people who don’t play in this meta don’t like it and they feel like people like the above should kowtow to their needs because they decided to play a game of mafia once or twice a year.
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Post Post #4431 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:20 pm

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Let's drop the posting frequency conversation.
That will actually help with lowering the posting frequency.
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Post Post #4432 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:20 pm

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In post 4428, Creature wrote:
In post 4420, Formerfish wrote:You are making it more difficult than it needs to be to grasp the game because of the speed you are saying nothing in.
There's a discussion about one or two players' alignments going on, talk about it.
Motherfucker don't shit in my mouth and tell me its chocolate.
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Post Post #4433 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:20 pm

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why do you think you need to be every other post in this game? serious question. What does it add?
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Post Post #4434 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:21 pm

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In post 4424, Formerfish wrote:Ali what are you doing to move the game forward.

Stop bitching about geezers in the fast lane and play.
my early game sucks and I want bodies to make it easier for me to grind my teeth into the game
If you don’t like it, flip me
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Post Post #4435 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:21 pm

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In post 4429, Formerfish wrote:
In post 4425, Creature wrote:If you actually are a gladiator, put players you really scumread, not players you find is antitown. It will really help down the game.
In post 4426, Creature wrote:Even the players you deem antitown usually changes as game moves on.
In post 4427, Creature wrote:So a policy lynch is a complete waste.
This is the same thought in 3 posts. Why creature? If you wanna live, consolidate your posts and be game relevant.
The posts 4426 and 4427 were really meant to be the same, but I accidentally posted 4426 before I could add 4427
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Post Post #4436 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:21 pm

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In post 4039, Iconeum wrote:
In post 692, Amrun wrote:
In post 499, Iconeum wrote:@Amrun

Wrt Bingle, I see Bingle pushing an agenda solely related to the banning of an anti-town role. Why the shade?
Wrt Bbmolla, got anything concrete other then 'he is scummy for his doing'?
Wrt Menal, how are you even managing a third party read at this time?

Can we vote to lynch already or?
Bingle: Yes, as I stated previously, he’s 100% technically correct. However, he seemed to be pushing it pretty hard. As I stated in that same sentence, I got the feeling that it was a personally trait rather than a tell but I didn’t know him enough to say. Since, I’ve decided it’s alignment-neutral.

Bbmolla: As scum, he deflects as much as possible. Obviously it was early for any sort of reliable tell, but IMO, sharing early reads, as sub solid as they may be, gets the ball rolling. And it certainly has. A number of people have commented it and now, my read on bbmolla is neutral, and I have a scum read on Firebringer. And they are certainly not scum together.

Menal: A third party read is a lot less strange in a game where a third party is known to exist. I think menal’s singleminded push for governor is either just goofing off with a complete and utter disregard for game mechanics, or it’s a cover for an actual game mechanic. They want to RP as mayor the whole game? Why, when the governor will most certainly become cult if they survive? Perhaps they are already cult, or immune to cult, or there’s actually a role mechanic that incentivizes cult recruit. Most of these possibilities are anti-town. At the very least, (s)he doesn’t seem to be showing regard for town. In essence, it’s just something about the way they are pushing for mayor that struck me as very off - like they really didn’t care about how it effected the game, but trying a little too hard. And something about it just made me feel like they do not have teammates. UT, on the other hand, and a handful of other people, have made campaigns for governor that didn’t bother me in the slightest.
The entire early list and these answers give me the feeling that you felt compulsed to post a list? And you can't really justify it so you resort to neutral reads on the points that I question it? I wonder what would happen if anyone picked up on some of the stuff you threw at the wall and started eating it.
I think doing shotgun reads like that was more common in an older meta, not that I particularly care. It is pretty commonly acknowledged that those reads are from a snapshot in time and are fluid (or was). It was the way I chose to try to get myself engaged with the game, and I have no regrets. Not being able to evolve your reads as you play is stupid and against the nature of the game and what makes it fun for me. I don’t think you’re understanding anything I was trying to say.

As example, you seem to be attacking the fact that I have since changed my bbmolla read to neutral and then later all the way to town, because I had no “reason” to call him scummy. Despite you saying that, I said repeatedly that I called him scummy because I have played with him when he’s very silly/deflective as scum, phrased various ways. I don’t know how much deeper insight you could want or expect from his one post about sleeping naked.

I feel like you are picking and trying to fault me as being internally inconsistent, but in a way that does not strike me as very genuine. I haven’t even displayed internal inconsistency, IMO, but such a thing could come from any alignment even if it did exist.


In other news.... I have put some thought and decided TSE is not the best lynch for today. We should use his ability and reassess later. UNVOTE:

I will place a vote as soon as I have fully caught up. Don’t want to lolhammer.
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Post Post #4437 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:21 pm

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Btw, what is ONUW?
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Post Post #4438 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:22 pm

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Post Post #4439 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:22 pm

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In post 4434, InsideJob711 wrote:my early game suck
just your early game?
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Post Post #4440 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:22 pm

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In post 4437, Creature wrote:Btw, what is ONUW?
One night ultimate werewolf.
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Post Post #4441 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:23 pm

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In post 4434, InsideJob711 wrote:
In post 4424, Formerfish wrote:Ali what are you doing to move the game forward.

Stop bitching about geezers in the fast lane and play.
my early game sucks and I want bodies to make it easier for me to grind my teeth into the game
If you don’t like it, flip me
When do you think your game improves? Asking for a friend who suffered through treestump game.
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Post Post #4442 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:23 pm

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In post 4440, Formerfish wrote:
In post 4437, Creature wrote:Btw, what is ONUW?
One night ultimate werewolf.
Oh right, it's kinda hypocritical Vork joined the PL creature for hyperposting train
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Post Post #4443 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:23 pm

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Post Post #4444 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:24 pm

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In post 4433, Untrod Tripod wrote:why do you think you need to be every other post in this game? serious question. What does it add?
why did you join this game? Serious question because you tried to play AvP, an invitational, and replaced out, and D1 was less then 100 pages at that time.
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Post Post #4445 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:24 pm

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In post 4441, Formerfish wrote:
In post 4434, InsideJob711 wrote:
In post 4424, Formerfish wrote:Ali what are you doing to move the game forward.

Stop bitching about geezers in the fast lane and play.
my early game sucks and I want bodies to make it easier for me to grind my teeth into the game
If you don’t like it, flip me
When do you think your game improves? Asking for a friend who suffered through treestump game.
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Post Post #4446 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:24 pm

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In post 4442, Creature wrote:
In post 4440, Formerfish wrote:
In post 4437, Creature wrote:Btw, what is ONUW?
One night ultimate werewolf.
Oh right, it's kinda hypocritical Vork joined the PL creature for hyperposting train
How do you feel about him actively seeking the gov during that phase?
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Post Post #4447 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:25 pm

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Thinking about DD...
A Lie Detector can hit a post made by a PGO and not get killed by the PGO, right?
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Post Post #4448 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:25 pm

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In post 4444, InsideJob711 wrote:
In post 4433, Untrod Tripod wrote:why do you think you need to be every other post in this game? serious question. What does it add?
why did you join this game? Serious question because you tried to play AvP, an invitational, and replaced out, and D1 was less then 100 pages at that time.
So someone trying to solve is scummy?
Yep and that’s how I usually get miss lynched Day 1 too.
Damn so much Scum/Bad Town this game LOL.
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Post Post #4449 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:25 pm

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In post 4431, davesaz wrote:Let's drop the posting frequency conversation.
That will actually help with lowering the posting frequency.
Oh damn, that discussion was certainly entertaining

Sorta forgot what was going on now, but the DD v FL seemed lame
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