Open 769: Venrob's PYP X/Y (Town Wins)

skitter30 · Post Post #1925 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:46 pm

nom i think that you have a v good scumgame and that this looks nothing like it
... but this also looks nothing like your towngame either and you're just saying things that are kinda bizarre in context and if you're town here i kinda need help seeing it because the cumulative effect of all of this is: scum!nom

nomnomnom · Post Post #1926 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:46 pm

also wooper there's nothing I can say or do here to change anyone's mind, I can see they're in confbias mode so I'm just sitting here laughing at everyone just feeding their confirmation bias until I get lynched until they see I'm town it's a pretty funny feeling actually

Besides even if I get lynched the scums have made themselves quite obvious. Just be sure to look at the people that let this lynch go through easily without saying many words and you'll get one scum. The other is on my wagon. That's pretty much it.

Obviously we could skip the step where I get lynched and vote Aaron that works too.

Adorable · Post Post #1927 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:47 pm

I'm on page 36 right now and I'm almost caught up. nomnom hard defending Billy on day 1 looks so bad and scum should never defend their scum buddy and I think nomnom should know to never defend a scum buddy like that and I'm still null on her since I have seen so many town defend a scum player and they end up getting mislynched the next day. Flubbernugget has been bumped to a scum read because at one point on day 1 the leading wagon was Kerset and Billy. Flubbernugget voting Kerset looked like an attempt to quietly prevent Billy from being the lynch target, he did a naked vote on Kerset and I'm not liking his one liner posts.

On post #764 this is what the vote count looked like halfway on day 1.

Billy Pilgrim (5): Sujimichi, Something_Smart, Luca Blight, Kerset, Xayah
Kerset (3): rb, nomnomnom, Flubbernugget
rb (3): skitter30, AaronFrost, PMysterious
AaronFrost (2): Sirfetchd, Wooper
skitter30 (1): Billy Pilgrim

On post #1316 the final vote count looked like this and how the heck did Xayah become the first voter? I haven't been getting any town vibes from Xayah and I'm starting to get paranoid Xayah could be scum who bussed Billy since she was originally the 5th voter.

Billy Pilgrim (8): Xayah, Luca Blight, skitter30, Wooper, Kerset, rb, AaronFrost, Sujimichi
Xayah (2): Sirfetchd, Billy Pilgrim
Kerset (2): Flubbernugget, nomnomnom
rb (1): PMysterious

Wooper · Post Post #1928 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:48 pm

In post 1926, nomnomnom wrote:also wooper there's nothing I can say or do here to change anyone's mind, I can see they're in confbias mode so I'm just sitting here laughing at everyone just feeding their confirmation bias until I get lynched until they see I'm town it's a pretty funny feeling actually

kinda unrelated to a town wincon noms

AaronFrost · Post Post #1929 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:48 pm

I'll be honest, my scum game is complete shit as I'm sure Luca can attest to

nomnomnom · Post Post #1930 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:48 pm

Xayah could easily be scum she has not said a single word today, gamestate wise this is probably the best step to take if none of me and aaron are scum so...

Maybe Xayah could be a lynch and if she flips scum then I was wrong about aaron?

nomnomnom · Post Post #1931 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:48 pm

VOTE: Xayah
Let's solve this game bois

nomnomnom · Post Post #1932 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:49 pm

Shit this game's starting to makes sense to me now. If I'm right then we kinda win on the spot.

Luca Blight · Post Post #1933 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:49 pm

I'm not sure why mislynching you would be so funny, it's not like you're giving us cause to townread you particularly. It would just be a shame that you didn't give me more of a chance to read you correctly.

nomnomnom · Post Post #1934 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:51 pm

Actually yeah... Hm... Xayah and Flubs could be the scumteam? Although I remember Flubs being awk as all hells in the games I played with him previously so that could just be a misconception but like the way he's feeding meaningless stuff on my wagon is suspicious.

I changed my mind about Aaron I figured this out. Lets goooo

Wooper · Post Post #1935 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:52 pm

keep it up noms. again surviving is not your wincon. finding teh scumz is

i'll bbl.

nomnomnom · Post Post #1936 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:53 pm

Like if you think about it bussing is really okay in this game too especially according to the draft number.

YEAH ACTUALLY!!! Maybe the reason that I felt Billy's wagon was awkward is because it was a low post slot that was last in draft. This could easily be a bus setup if you think about it. So it makes a LOT of sense for Xayah to execute this. I really feel that the awkward feeling about Billy being scumread out of nowhere was warranted and I think the reason is because it was scum driven.

Is that enough gamesolve for ya

Sujimichi · Post Post #1937 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:55 pm

In post 1934, nomnomnom wrote:I changed my mind about Aaron I figured this out. Lets goooo

This further reinforces my tinfoil hat theory. I will not be unvoting.

AaronFrost · Post Post #1938 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:56 pm

In post 1937, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 1934, nomnomnom wrote:I changed my mind about Aaron I figured this out. Lets goooo
This further reinforces my tinfoil hat theory. I will not be unvoting.

You don't think scum!nom would want you to think this?

nomnomnom · Post Post #1939 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:56 pm

Also as I said I'm busy as all hell IRL and I haven;t been towning it up this game, I've been laughing stuff out actually probably not for the better lol. But honestly I'm not 100% in a mafia mood if I need to admit it. It'll get better eventually but I'll take a break after this game. Just get the scum lynched ez.

nomnomnom · Post Post #1940 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:56 pm

In post 1937, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 1934, nomnomnom wrote:I changed my mind about Aaron I figured this out. Lets goooo
This further reinforces my tinfoil hat theory. I will not be unvoting.

see I told ya people are full confbias territory now

For real tough, Xayah's probably scum, the real question is who is scum with her in this config.

Sujimichi · Post Post #1941 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:57 pm

In post 1938, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 1937, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 1934, nomnomnom wrote:I changed my mind about Aaron I figured this out. Lets goooo
This further reinforces my tinfoil hat theory. I will not be unvoting.
You don't think scum!nom would want you to think this?

Think what, specifically?

Sujimichi · Post Post #1942 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:58 pm

In post 1940, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 1937, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 1934, nomnomnom wrote:I changed my mind about Aaron I figured this out. Lets goooo
This further reinforces my tinfoil hat theory. I will not be unvoting.
see I told ya people are full confbias territory now

For real tough, Xayah's probably scum, the real question is who is scum with her in this config.

You were previously thinking Aaron was scum, correct? All this has done is increased my probability that you two are aligned.

nomnomnom · Post Post #1943 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:58 pm

Also I'm second last in the pick do you really think I get ultra lucky with a venge pick here? Not a good theory.

nomnomnom · Post Post #1944 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:00 pm

In post 1942, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 1940, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 1937, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 1934, nomnomnom wrote:I changed my mind about Aaron I figured this out. Lets goooo
This further reinforces my tinfoil hat theory. I will not be unvoting.
see I told ya people are full confbias territory now

For real tough, Xayah's probably scum, the real question is who is scum with her in this config.
You were previously thinking Aaron was scum, correct? All this has done is increased my probability that you two are aligned.

You know what confirmation bias is right? You were voting me because I was voting aaron and now that I change my read you say it's scummy, it's kind of a catch 22 and you kind of need to reset to see that you're just in confbias mode.

The true answer is that I just had a sudden realization about this game and that gamestate wise it makes a LOT of sense for Xayah to be scum and if she is then Aaron is pretty much confirmed town in my eyes.

AaronFrost · Post Post #1945 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:00 pm

In post 1941, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 1938, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 1937, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 1934, nomnomnom wrote:I changed my mind about Aaron I figured this out. Lets goooo
This further reinforces my tinfoil hat theory. I will not be unvoting.
You don't think scum!nom would want you to think this?
Think what, specifically?

That me and nom are both scum.

AaronFrost · Post Post #1946 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:01 pm

Suji's currently voting for me I think.

Sujimichi · Post Post #1947 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:01 pm

In post 1944, nomnomnom wrote:You know what confirmation bias is right? You were voting me because I was voting aaron and now that I change my read you say it's scummy, it's kind of a catch 22 and you kind of need to reset to see that you're just in confbias mode.

The true answer is that I just had a sudden realization about this game and that gamestate wise it makes a LOT of sense for Xayah to be scum and if she is then Aaron is pretty much confirmed town in my eyes.

I was not voting you. I am voting Aaron.

Sujimichi · Post Post #1948 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:03 pm

In post 1945, AaronFrost wrote:That me and nom are both scum.

I am unsure as to why you would ask this because her recent posting would suggest that she wants you two to not be associated together as scum, thus strengthening my tinfoil hat theory.

Sirfetchd · Post Post #1949 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:03 pm

In post 1934, nomnomnom wrote:Actually yeah... Hm... Xayah and Flubs could be the scumteam? Although I remember Flubs being awk as all hells in the games I played with him previously so that could just be a misconception but like the way he's feeding meaningless stuff on my wagon is suspicious.

I changed my mind about Aaron I figured this out. Lets goooo

Agreeing with my reads is a bad tactic. I have never been an advocate for setting up entire scum teams pre team size -1.