Micro 900: Autumnal Mafia (Game Complete)

[Datisi]

didn't someone say scum do not have daytalk?

I mean the mod did but sure

The reason I'm asking is because you've literally seen SvS bussing that ended up with the bullied scum replacing out

So idk why you're crossing it off

[Iconeum]

The reason I'm asking is because you've literally seen SvS bussing that ended up with the bullied scum replacing out

what

evidence?

[alimdia]

@Emps, I like that you're doing catchups "real-time", but is there ever any "conclusion"? What are your reads atm?

I'm gonna

piggyback

this question.
Wicked didn't do catchups real time and he had more content than you.

~ahem~

What's wrong?

Wicked chooses to list 3 players, and comes to 3 neutral conclusions despite putting out an extensive read on all 3, leaving whichever way to lean on any of them as the game goes.

But what really sticks out here is that he ends up with 3 neutral reads, and makes no attempt at all to sort them.

I agree with this

[alimdia]

Ali, you're staying very neutral throughout all of this. Can I get some reads from you?

Reads:
Town
Icon - parks vote on Mena for a while but steps out of the shitshow soon after and one of the first to start hunting elsewhere
Datisi - excluding the war with Wimpy, questions are on point, looks like genuinely scum hunting. I'm ignoring the 'out of scum zone' comments as thats NAI
Mena - Re-read Mena a bit, To be fair, Mena admitting that it was 65% is probably a point in their favor, but I still don't like the way they tunneled each other, basically taking control of the thread.
Luca - everytime someone town reads me, he undermines it (604, 793). Ppl TR'in me: (683, 690, 692). I feel like he is afraid of me becoming a somewhat universal town read ,
along with some other somewhat universal town reads like Datisi, Icon and to a lesser extent: Mena, and thus being eventually outed in POE.
Wimpy - this is very close to null tbh cos he focused on tunneling on Mena, and a lesser extent Datisi, and seemed like he wasn't even trying after a certain point.
Wicked - Icon's 867 brings up a good point. I'm willing to jump on that wagon if nobody thinks Emps deserves a wagon here.
Emps - lots of fluff post to look like they're contributing, over multiple days.
Emps - enough said
Emps - enough said
Scum

Null: Adlu - hasn't posted much, other than a slightly town read on me

[Iconeum]

So idk why you're crossing it off

So let's assume scum have no PT

That means you wanna keep the option of SvS on the table

I dare say that goes against the rules 'Play to Win'

[Datisi]

You remember that game that had a huge shitfight from page 1 to the end of Day 2 that ended up with 3 replacements? There was no way that was SvS right?

Spoiler:

Town: {Persi, Icon}
Townlean: {Aubrey, Voted}
???: {BxW}
Scumlean: {Saudade, L&J}
Scum: {Zeebu}

How can you have me as scumlean and linked with either Saudade or zeebu?

These are my reads so far, not saying all scum is definitely in there or that they're definitely correct. Besides, I don't think I'd be completely surprised if it came down to be LJ/Sau team with some genuine insults.

I meant every word I said. I do not respect him as a player and I don’t wish to play any future games with him.

He’s not my partner but no game is worth risking a temp ban.

I cannot handle playing with anyone that toxic.

Sorry Chibi.

@mod, please replace me

I mean, I agree that it's like 99.999% not SvS, but more on the basis on "Menalque doesn't bully bus his teammater out of the game" rather than "Scum doesn't bully bus his teammater out of the game".

[Datisi]

What's wrong?

853 was @Luca, since it seemed to me like he was giving credit to you for something I said first

[Iconeum]

more on the basis on "Menalque doesn't bully bus his teammater out of the game" rather than "Scum doesn't bully bus his teammater out of the game".

i'll concede to this

Menal doesn't bully his teammate out of the game

If this turns out false, I'll be at a loss for words seriously.

[Iconeum]

Now that I've slept over it, I don't think Menal plays like this as scum. Scum are much more aware of things, and after quickly rereading Menal ISO again he literally reads like a bull that saw a red scum. He went too far and did some bad and nasty things, but I can relate a little.

Gonna keep my opinion at TvTvT

[alimdia]

That’s actually a good point against emps @Ali. Perpetually catching up is a great way to fly under the radar as scum while looking busy/productive.

What's wrong?

853 was @Luca, since it seemed to me like he was giving credit to you for something I said first

Uh I said that ages ago the first time he was doing that perpetually catching up posts

[Datisi]

Part of me wants to start arguing that your original point/vote was ~too many catchup posts~ and not ~no substance/reads/conclusion~ but
but
let's not have another 20 page fight

[Luca Blight]

Ali started out siding with Wimpy over Menalque and seemingly scumreading Menalque early on, but seemed to drop this without explanation. Can you explain your read progression there, Ali?

Wimpy - this is very close to null tbh cos he focused on tunneling on Mena, and a lesser extent Datisi, and seemed like he wasn't even trying after a certain point.

I don't get why you currently have Wimpy as null alongside this reasoning. Are these things not AI to you at all?

[Luca Blight]

Icon - parks vote on Mena for a while but steps out of the shitshow soon after and one of the first to start hunting elsewhere
Datisi - excluding the war with Wimpy, questions are on point, looks like genuinely scum hunting. I'm ignoring the 'out of scum zone' comments as thats NAI
Mena - Re-read Mena a bit, To be fair, Mena admitting that it was 65% is probably a point in their favor, but I still don't like the way they tunneled each other, basically taking control of the thread.

Luca - everytime someone town reads me, he undermines it (604, 793). Ppl TR'in me: (683, 690, 692). I feel like he is afraid of me becoming a somewhat universal town read , along with some other somewhat universal town reads like Datisi, Icon and to a lesser extent: Mena, and thus being eventually outed in POE.

Wimpy - this is very close to null tbh cos he focused on tunneling on Mena, and a lesser extent Datisi, and seemed like he wasn't even trying after a certain point.
Wicked - Icon's 867 brings up a good point. I'm willing to jump on that wagon if nobody thinks Emps deserves a wagon here.
Emps - lots of fluff post to look like they're contributing, over multiple days.
Emps - enough said
Emps - enough said
Scum

Null: Adlu - hasn't posted much, other than a slightly town read on me

I'm a little confused why I'm so high up your list when everything you said about me was negative.

[Iconeum]

Ali started out siding with Wimpy over Menalque and seemingly scumreading Menalque early on, but seemed to drop this without explanation. Can you explain your read progression there, Ali?

Wimpy - this is very close to null tbh cos he focused on tunneling on Mena, and a lesser extent Datisi, and seemed like he wasn't even trying after a certain point.

I don't get why you currently have Wimpy as null alongside this reasoning. Are these things not AI to you at all?

i'm really liking Luca's thoughts this game

if

wimpy is scum this could be the partner defending

[Alduskkel]

@Wicked: What's your opinion of what I said here?

I feel like there's a lot of cognitive dissonance in Wimpy's posting. There's "I don't care if you scumread me but I'm also going to spam the thread with posts explaining why you shouldn't be scumreading me" and also "I think Datisi is scummy but I didn't call her scum it was just a page 2 vote that I said was serious."

-On the other hand, some of his defeatist/1v1 posts feel kinda townish to me: see 358 and 640. I also kinda believe him when he says he doesn't care how people read him.

Why do you believe Wimpy when he said he doesn't care how he's read?

Menalque:

neutral, slight scum lean
-I don't like his overly-confident push on Wimpy.
-I don't like what he's done to the game-state (helping spam the thread, f-bombing the guy that he's confidently scum-reading who has now replaced out)
-I don't like his warning to me here. Not only does it feel like a misrep waiting to happen but I'm still not sure why he makes that post as town.
-Regardless of his alignment, I think he crossed the line in his treatment of Wimpy. It kinda sucks that Wimpy replaced out and is leaving the site. Regardless of how irritable he may have been to certain people, he shouldn't have been treated that way and this feels like the wrong outcome.

Menalque, I know that you strongly prefer town. Why did you want to coast this game?


UNVOTE: VOTE: Menalque

Dislike this "case" and vote. This just sounds like you don't like Menalque's playstyle in this game so far, so your vote is basically policy. I also agree with what Ico said here.


I also dislike how Luca dodged alimdia's accusations in 887. It's pretty suspicious (admittedly pending flips on Wicked and Wimpy) that Luca has been adding support to the most popular wagons while avoiding the spotlight as the leader of them.

[Iconeum]

hi aldus nice to meet you

[alimdia]

Ali started out siding with Wimpy over Menalque and seemingly scumreading Menalque early on, but seemed to drop this without explanation. Can you explain your read progression there, Ali?

Wimpy - this is very close to null tbh cos he focused on tunneling on Mena, and a lesser extent Datisi, and seemed like he wasn't even trying after a certain point.

I don't get why you currently have Wimpy as null alongside this reasoning. Are these things not AI to you at all?

i'm really liking Luca's thoughts this game

if

wimpy is scum this could be the partner defending

Initially yes I was defending him - on page 7.

To be honest when catching up I read the 20 pages of Mena vs Wimpy but I already forgot everything I read. And After Wimpy got bullied into replacing out, I really just have no motivation to re-read those pages to read that slot.
Even when ISO'ing Mena, I fast forwarded through the repetitive parts.
I mostly focused on what other people's inputs during that time like Emps, and people's inputs after that time like Luca and Wicked.

[alimdia]

I also dislike how Luca dodged alimdia's accusations in 887.

Amen brother

[alimdia]

Icon - parks vote on Mena for a while but steps out of the shitshow soon after and one of the first to start hunting elsewhere
Datisi - excluding the war with Wimpy, questions are on point, looks like genuinely scum hunting. I'm ignoring the 'out of scum zone' comments as thats NAI
Mena - Re-read Mena a bit, To be fair, Mena admitting that it was 65% is probably a point in their favor, but I still don't like the way they tunneled each other, basically taking control of the thread.

Luca - everytime someone town reads me, he undermines it (604, 793). Ppl TR'in me: (683, 690, 692). I feel like he is afraid of me becoming a somewhat universal town read , along with some other somewhat universal town reads like Datisi, Icon and to a lesser extent: Mena, and thus being eventually outed in POE.

Wimpy - this is very close to null tbh cos he focused on tunneling on Mena, and a lesser extent Datisi, and seemed like he wasn't even trying after a certain point.
Wicked - Icon's 867 brings up a good point. I'm willing to jump on that wagon if nobody thinks Emps deserves a wagon here.
Emps - lots of fluff post to look like they're contributing, over multiple days.
Emps - enough said
Emps - enough said
Scum

Null: Adlu - hasn't posted much, other than a slightly town read on me

I'm a little confused why I'm so high up your list when everything you said about me was negative.

Maybe its because I listed Emps three times?
I didn't c/p Wimpy out to the null group, my bad though. So you are 4th out of 6 people, not really that high.

[Iconeum]

i have a townread in Luca

[Iconeum]

are you guys serious about scum!Luca?

[Datisi]

I'm confused too, alimdia
Because I get the feeling that Luca & I have taken very similar stances on you
+ I've actively pushed you out of the Townbloc when Icon was trying to get you in

Why do I get to be the "genuine scumhunter" but Luca is "afraid of being outed in the PoE"?

[Datisi]

Icon - parks vote on Mena for a while but steps out of the shitshow soon after and one of the first to start hunting elsewhere
Datisi - excluding the war with Wimpy, questions are on point, looks like genuinely scum hunting. I'm ignoring the 'out of scum zone' comments as thats NAI
Mena - Re-read Mena a bit, To be fair, Mena admitting that it was 65% is probably a point in their favor, but I still don't like the way they tunneled each other, basically taking control of the thread.

Luca - everytime someone town reads me, he undermines it (604, 793). Ppl TR'in me: (683, 690, 692). I feel like he is afraid of me becoming a somewhat universal town read , along with some other somewhat universal town reads like Datisi, Icon and to a lesser extent: Mena, and thus being eventually outed in POE.

Wimpy - this is very close to null tbh cos he focused on tunneling on Mena, and a lesser extent Datisi, and seemed like he wasn't even trying after a certain point.
Wicked - Icon's 867 brings up a good point. I'm willing to jump on that wagon if nobody thinks Emps deserves a wagon here.
Emps - lots of fluff post to look like they're contributing, over multiple days.
Emps - enough said
Emps - enough said
Scum

Null: Adlu - hasn't posted much, other than a slightly town read on me

I'm a little confused why I'm so high up your list when everything you said about me was negative.

Maybe its because I listed Emps three times?
I didn't c/p Wimpy out to the null group, my bad though. So you are 4th out of 6 people, not really that high.

I mean
If Wimpy is where the "null line" is
then Luca is still in your Town pile according to that?

[Datisi]

also @Aldu
when you get the chance a basic readslist with an explanation or two would be gucci
k thx

[Iconeum]

I also dislike how Luca dodged alimdia's accusations in 887.

Amen brother

i'm with Datisi on this one. How are you supporting a push on Luca when you put it in your town(ish) pile very recently?