Micro 900: Autumnal Mafia (Game Complete)

[Iconeum]

actually, you put luca over null while still shading/fencing there

[Iconeum]

ugh wasted pagetop :s

[Datisi]

pagetop

Also
genuinely
what the fuck was Luca supposed to answer to those "accusations" to not dodge them

"No I'm not doing that"

like

pedit: FUCK

[Iconeum]

that's like an entire *minute* too slow

ur losing your touch Dats

[Datisi]

[Iconeum]

aaaanywho, i still wanna lynch wicked at this point

who's against this anyway?

[Luca Blight]

pagetop

Also
genuinely
what the fuck was Luca supposed to answer to those "accusations" to not dodge them

"No I'm not doing that"

Exactly this.

[Luca Blight]

Ali started out siding with Wimpy over Menalque and seemingly scumreading Menalque early on, but seemed to drop this without explanation. Can you explain your read progression there, Ali?

Wimpy - this is very close to null tbh cos he focused on tunneling on Mena, and a lesser extent Datisi, and seemed like he wasn't even trying after a certain point.

I don't get why you currently have Wimpy as null alongside this reasoning. Are these things not AI to you at all?

i'm really liking Luca's thoughts this game

if

wimpy is scum this could be the partner defending

Initially yes I was defending him - on page 7.

To be honest when catching up I read the 20 pages of Mena vs Wimpy but I already forgot everything I read. And After Wimpy got bullied into replacing out, I really just have no motivation to re-read those pages to read that slot.
Even when ISO'ing Mena, I fast forwarded through the repetitive parts.
I mostly focused on what other people's inputs during that time like Emps, and people's inputs after that time like Luca and Wicked.

This still doesn’t explain how you went from scumreading Menalque early on to townreading him now. Why are you townreading him?

[Luca Blight]

Spoiler:

@Wicked: What's your opinion of what I said here?

I feel like there's a lot of cognitive dissonance in Wimpy's posting. There's "I don't care if you scumread me but I'm also going to spam the thread with posts explaining why you shouldn't be scumreading me" and also "I think Datisi is scummy but I didn't call her scum it was just a page 2 vote that I said was serious."

-On the other hand, some of his defeatist/1v1 posts feel kinda townish to me: see 358 and 640. I also kinda believe him when he says he doesn't care how people read him.

Why do you believe Wimpy when he said he doesn't care how he's read?

Menalque:

neutral, slight scum lean
-I don't like his overly-confident push on Wimpy.
-I don't like what he's done to the game-state (helping spam the thread, f-bombing the guy that he's confidently scum-reading who has now replaced out)
-I don't like his warning to me here. Not only does it feel like a misrep waiting to happen but I'm still not sure why he makes that post as town.
-Regardless of his alignment, I think he crossed the line in his treatment of Wimpy. It kinda sucks that Wimpy replaced out and is leaving the site. Regardless of how irritable he may have been to certain people, he shouldn't have been treated that way and this feels like the wrong outcome.

Menalque, I know that you strongly prefer town. Why did you want to coast this game?


UNVOTE: VOTE: Menalque

Dislike this "case" and vote. This just sounds like you don't like Menalque's playstyle in this game so far, so your vote is basically policy. I also agree with what Ico said here.


I also dislike how Luca dodged alimdia's accusations in 887. It's pretty suspicious (admittedly pending flips on Wicked and Wimpy) that Luca has been adding support to the most popular wagons while avoiding the spotlight as the leader of them.

It’s a bit of a misrep to say I’ve been adding support to the most popular wagons while avoiding the spotlight when I’ve only made one serious vote this game.

[Alduskkel]

also @Aldu
when you get the chance a basic readslist with an explanation or two would be gucci
k thx

Town:
alimdia -- for reasons I've said before, and I mostly agree with Ico's points on him (and anything I don't agree with I just think is null).
Ico -- Ico's been making a lot of sense. The progression of the read on Menalque is natural, and I like the poking at Wicked.
Menalque -- the earlier tunneling and the later "oh crap was I tunneling" seem town to me, I've had similar experiences. I'm still looking forward to more content on non-Wimpy stuff, though.
Datisi -- kinda like a towner version of Menalque. Posted a lot but a good variety, not just on Wimpy.
emps -- lot of posting, not a lot of content. When he came in with post 599 and saying "i honestly have no fucking clue what my reads are tbh" that seemed town to me. I think scum would most likely push Wimpy or Menalque, rather than risk appearing wishy-washy. Leaning town, but still close to null.

Scum:
Wimpy -- pretty much what I've said before. Although the fact that he straight up replaced out makes me think his behavior wasn't as alignment indicative as I thought.
Luca -- too much on the sidelines, too much pushing the popular wagons. Probably not scum with Wimpy or Wicked.
Wicked -- see my previous post.

[Alduskkel]

Also
genuinely
what the fuck was Luca supposed to answer to those "accusations" to not dodge them

I mean, he could say something about alimdia saying Luca's "undermining" people's townreads of alimdia. Maybe explain that it wasn't "undermining"?

It’s a bit of a misrep to say I’ve been adding support to the most popular wagons while avoiding the spotlight when I’ve only made one serious vote this game.

You were absolutely pressuring Wimpy and adding fuel to the fire, even if you weren't voting for him.

[Iconeum]

I'm unsure. Yeah Luca pushed both Wimpy and now Wicked, but so has Menal and Datisi for example?
The only thing I take away from that is that Luca hasn't really been sorting outside of that. But is that scumplay? Don't think so.

[Iconeum]

something tells me we'll just end up lynching Wimpy slot today anyway

[Datisi]

Remind me to talk about something after emps catches up/gives reasons for his reads and stuff

K thx

[Luca Blight]

So what if I was pushing Winpy? I’ve also been pushing Ali, who isn’t a main wagon.

It’s also ironic how the guy most on the sidelines is calling me out for being on the sidelines.

[Luca Blight]

And i was actually trying to get Wimpy to not tunnel so hard so we could look at other slots, so it really feels like you’re misrepping me there.

[alimdia]

Icon - parks vote on Mena for a while but steps out of the shitshow soon after and one of the first to start hunting elsewhere
Datisi - excluding the war with Wimpy, questions are on point, looks like genuinely scum hunting. I'm ignoring the 'out of scum zone' comments as thats NAI
Mena - Re-read Mena a bit, To be fair, Mena admitting that it was 65% is probably a point in their favor, but I still don't like the way they tunneled each other, basically taking control of the thread.

Luca - everytime someone town reads me, he undermines it (604, 793). Ppl TR'in me: (683, 690, 692). I feel like he is afraid of me becoming a somewhat universal town read , along with some other somewhat universal town reads like Datisi, Icon and to a lesser extent: Mena, and thus being eventually outed in POE.

Wimpy - this is very close to null tbh cos he focused on tunneling on Mena, and a lesser extent Datisi, and seemed like he wasn't even trying after a certain point.
Wicked - Icon's 867 brings up a good point. I'm willing to jump on that wagon if nobody thinks Emps deserves a wagon here.
Emps - lots of fluff post to look like they're contributing, over multiple days.
Emps - enough said
Emps - enough said
Scum

Null: Adlu - hasn't posted much, other than a slightly town read on me

I'm a little confused why I'm so high up your list when everything you said about me was negative.

Maybe its because I listed Emps three times?
I didn't c/p Wimpy out to the null group, my bad though. So you are 4th out of 6 people, not really that high.

I mean
If Wimpy is where the "null line" is
then Luca is still in your Town pile according to that?

The corrected list is the following with dups and nulls removed
Town
Icon
Datisi
Mena
Luca
Wicked
Emps
Scum

As you can see, Luca is not in the town pile. Also I rarely have more than 1-2 solid town reads. In this case those would be Icon and Datisi.

[Luca Blight]

I also notice Aldu is townreading emps partly for not pushing Wimpy and partly scumreading me for pushing Wimpy, yet I’m pretty sure emps ‘pushed’ Wimpy at least as much as I did, if not more.

[Datisi]

I'm not talking about "solid Townreads"
I'm saying if Wimpy was the "null line"
Then Luca was above the null line
Which is Town leaning?

[alimdia]

are you guys serious about scum!Luca?

Its a possibility.

I also dislike how Luca dodged alimdia's accusations in 887.

Amen brother

i'm with Datisi on this one. How are you supporting a push on Luca when you put it in your town(ish) pile very recently?

See my prev post.

This still doesn’t explain how you went from scumreading Menalque early on to townreading him now. Why are you townreading him?

Did you literally not read my list. Reasoning is right there?

[alimdia]

Also I rarely have more than 1-2 solid town reads. In this case those would be Icon and Datisi.

I'm not talking about "solid Townreads"
I'm saying if Wimpy was the "null line"
Then Luca was above the null line
Which is Town leaning?

Theres no null line, I just forgot to c/p Wimpy to the null section underneath with Aldu.

[Luca Blight]

You said you disliked the tunneling but the 65% thing was in his favour. Is that literally why you’re townreading him?

[Datisi]

...
In 878
Were your reads in order from Town to scum? (ignoring Aldu)

[alimdia]

Datisi

Town Read

Icon
...
Menalque
Ali
Aldu

Null

emps
Wicked/Wimpy

Scum-lean

That's kind of where I'm at right now.

I'm still undecided about Ali: he's made a few good points here and there, although I get the feeling he is playing the role of 'mediator' which is rubbing me up the wrong way a bit.

Aldu has shown me nothing AI whatsoever, but they're both around the null area.

By your logic I'm leaning town because I'm above the null line too?

[alimdia]

...
In 878
Were your reads in order from Town to scum? (ignoring Aldu)

Ye, and also ignoring Wimpy.

Once again.. I only really have 1-2 solid town reads