Perfect Masquerade [Game Over]

[Lady 2]

@L2:

If G1 is scum, how do you think scum is going to play around his slot?

Idk, my usual heuristic is that if you can bus before people realize that the player will be going down you get the full utility of the bus. I don't know how that holds in dance games, dance games reduce scum incentive to bus somewhat? I think if G1 is scum they have to realize how unlikely he is to make endgame at this point though. I think scum in that case would need to encourage paranoia between pairs and get people implicated as potential G1 partners, and do things to reduce the utility Town will get from my flip as Town. Scum also probably want to set up a heated argument about whether to get rid if G8/L5 before it after intermission if G1 is scum and G1/L2 is first lynch.

Which truthfully is kind of what G1 is doing right now so yeah, uh, there's that too.

[Gentleman 3]

Is G8 getting replaced?

[Lady 5]

Maybe because him and L2 are both wolves and confused.

That's awfully tinfoily.

Im just pointed out possibilities. That’s all.

If it comes down to F3 with you and G4.
I’d request you and G4 to Reread your Ladies as 1 could be Deepwolf.

[Lady 5]

Is G8 getting replaced?

I fuckin hope so.
I want a partner that actually talks.

[Gentleman 3]

Scum also probably want to set up a heated argument about whether to get rid if G8/L5 before it after intermission if G1 is scum and G1/L2 is first lynch.

That seems like a lot of work for not a lot of benefit.

[Lady 7]

Damn so I shouldn't have asked that question? FML

[Gentleman 5]

Mastin

Shudders

[Lady 5]

@L2:

If G1 is scum, how do you think scum is going to play around his slot?

Idk, my usual heuristic is that if you can bus before people realize that the player will be going down you get the full utility of the bus. I don't know how that holds in dance games, dance games reduce scum incentive to bus somewhat? I think if G1 is scum they have to realize how unlikely he is to make endgame at this point though. I think scum in that case would need to encourage paranoia between pairs and get people implicated as potential G1 partners, and do things to reduce the utility Town will get from my flip as Town. Scum also probably want to set up a heated argument about whether to get rid if G8/L5 before it after intermission if G1 is scum and G1/L2 is first lynch.

Which truthfully is kind of what G1 is doing right now so yeah, uh, there's that too.

After you lynch, I plan to deep dive into Gentleman 7’s ISO as they are hiding in the back holding Lady 7’s Hand.

[Lady 5]

Scum also probably want to set up a heated argument about whether to get rid if G8/L5 before it after intermission if G1 is scum and G1/L2 is first lynch.

That seems like a lot of work for not a lot of benefit.

TBH the only reason I actually see G8 being scum read is because they are inactive and not doing shit.
So I hope whoever replaces G8 is super active and super big brain.

[Lady 2]

Scum also probably want to set up a heated argument about whether to get rid if G8/L5 before it after intermission if G1 is scum and G1/L2 is first lynch.

That seems like a lot of work for not a lot of benefit.

Maybe, I'm just thinking about what scum can do when one of their number is in the first lynch. Kind of like G6 has been saying, that puts Town in a very advantageous position and Town unity would be high in that case, so scum need a strategy to reduce it. That's just the one that came to mind as a possibility. It's certainly shown potential to cause division.

[Gentleman 4]

I think the lack of really

solid

scum reads this game is interesting.

[Lady 7]

I think the lack of really

solid

scum reads this game is interesting.

I like it!

[Gentleman 6]

I think scum want to aim to lose no scum before intermission, then kill me.

[Lady 2]

Damn so I shouldn't have asked that question? FML

Oh this was @me

No I mean it's a pair that needs to be discussed and I don't see as a pair to take to endgame, just that it's something that

can

be divisive so scum want to use it to cause division especially if Town are strengthened by an early G1-scum lynch.

[Lady 7]

Mostly because well I lack confidence in reads early on especially scum ones, and because I like watching how the game behaves when there's not a clear lead where the lynch or the scum reads are going. I think it gives scum less room to hide and be able to craft their reads according to town's reads and hide in there.

[Lady 7]

Damn so I shouldn't have asked that question? FML

Oh this was @me

No I mean it's a pair that needs to be discussed and I don't see as a pair to take to endgame, just that it's something that

can

be divisive so scum want to use it to cause division especially if Town are strengthened by an early G1-scum lynch.

That was a joke. I had asked the question about why not get rid of the one every is treating like a policy lynch early instead of after intermission. I was just being silly after your comment.

[Gentleman 4]

VOTE: Gentleman 6

[Gentleman 4]

I think scum want to aim to lose no scum before intermission, then kill me.

This is AtE, and so full of deceit I'm surprised you managed to get it closed without it seeping through the cracks.

[Gentleman 3]

TBH the only reason I actually see G8 being scum read is because they are inactive and not doing shit.

Honestly I think both halves of your pair are probably policy lynches.

[Gentleman 6]

I think scum want to aim to lose no scum before intermission, then kill me.

This is AtE, and so full of deceit I'm surprised you managed to get it closed without it seeping through the cracks.

When G1 flips scum, you're next.

[Gentleman 1]

Gentleman 3, is there a reason you haven't proposed yet?

- because I don't like making decisions
- because I think pairs should be widely agreed on
- because I want to pair with someone who wants to pair with me, and only L5 has expressed interest, and I have thought about asking her but have not yet come to a conclusion

Who are you thinking of proposing to, if anyone?

Depends on how people read me, which I really don't have that clear of a picture on. If people feel good about me I'd want one of my townreads (probably L5 or L7); if I'm going to be mislynched anyway, I would not want to drag them down and would instead try to pair with scum/lynchbait.

You ain’t going to be miss lynched on my watch.
I’ll defend the you.
Although what we could do is form a 2 Way.
Like maybe pair with a Lady other then me you Town Read.
I’ll go with Gent 5 as he’s a strong town player.
My suggestion is to go with L2 or L8 as they are both scum players.
That way if we can end up with a Strong Town Tower, we should win easy.
Of course this all assuming Gent 5 is willing to agree with me on you being Town.

Oh welp then I’ll just go try hard solve mode with Gent 3.

This sequence raises some red flags for me. I don’t like L5 suddenly coming in acting like she is saving the day here. There is also the fact that the first post just feels out of place from L5. My final issue is that I do not believe there was any genuine attempt to make this pairing happen despite it seeming like it was the thing L5 wanted. I think G3 and L5 may both be scum together, and they did not want to pair because they were not at all confident they could make the double scum pairing work.

That pairing has deepwolf potential (ie, isn't an endgame pairing) but also isn't an immediate lynch contender.

If it actually had deepwolf potential, would you really think it was that evident, and something you could clearly announce should not make endgame?

[Gentleman 5]

VOTE: Gentleman 6

What the fuck....

[Gentleman 4]

I want you or me today, and if I don't get lynched and you flip town, I want Lady 3 to leave.

[Gentleman 3]

Maybe, I'm just thinking about what scum can do when one of their number is in the first lynch.

I'm pretty sure scum are just deciding who has the best shot of deepwolfing successfully and making sure the other two players don't spew that person as scum.

[Lady 2]

I mean, it's not AtE? It's not an emotional appeal?