Micro 900: Autumnal Mafia (Game Complete)

[alimdia]

yoink

[Alduskkel]

I'm getting newbtown vibes from Ali's recent posts tbh, the way he's judging most things by how it relates to/affects him.

@Datisi: tbh I wasn't paying that close attention and was mostly just happy that ali was backing me up on my Luca suspicion

Join tha wagon too

Does it not seem odd to you that he's suspicious of me yet hasn't voted me? It feels like he's waiting for someone else to make the push first.

Well honestly I've been feeling a bit indecisive over voting you, Wicked, or Wimpy/pops. You getting townvibes from Ali gives me a bit of pause, I would have expected you to maintain your scumread stance if you were scum.

Town:
alimdia -- for reasons I've said before, and I mostly agree with Ico's points on him (and anything I don't agree with I just think is null).
Ico -- Ico's been making a lot of sense. The progression of the read on Menalque is natural, and I like the poking at Wicked.
Menalque -- the earlier tunneling and the later "oh crap was I tunneling" seem town to me, I've had similar experiences. I'm still looking forward to more content on non-Wimpy stuff, though.
Datisi -- kinda like a towner version of Menalque. Posted a lot but a good variety, not just on Wimpy.
emps -- lot of posting, not a lot of content. When he came in with post 599 and saying "i honestly have no fucking clue what my reads are tbh" that seemed town to me. I think scum would most likely push Wimpy or Menalque, rather than risk appearing wishy-washy. Leaning town, but still close to null.

Scum:
Wimpy -- pretty much what I've said before. Although the fact that he straight up replaced out makes me think his behavior wasn't as alignment indicative as I thought.
Luca -- too much on the sidelines, too much pushing the popular wagons. Probably not scum with Wimpy or Wicked.
Wicked -- see my previous post.

wicked read is ??? but i should check previous post
luca weird is read, dont think hes been on the sidelines tbh and he hasnt just been pushing the popular wagons
why is mena above datisi if datisi is literally townier mena to u
alimidia being that high is also weird to me, ill check back ur reasoning in a bit

I should clarify that my reads list was not in order of strength here. If it were, it'd be something like
Town
alimdia = Ico = Datisi (Town)
emps = Menalque (Town lean)
Wicked = Wimpy = Luca (Scummy)
Scum

This is probably town!Emps that is just not into this game. His reads are very feely right now, especially wrt Ali. He isn't pushing a scum!agenda and reminds me of myself when I'm town just stuck in a game.

This is the feeling I get from emps too.

@Aldu does pop's posts change your reads on the wimpy slot?

I dunno, I'm worried that scum pops probably has the skill to turn around a scummy slot into looking like a townie slot.

I'm gonna reread Wicked and pops rn.

[Alduskkel]

I mean I reread pops iso and while pops is less scummy than Wimpy I don't think there's enough me to flip my read. Pops has a lot of friendly banter posts which I feel is making it more likely for people to townread her even though it's NAI. I know my brain was initially thinking "hmm, pops seems town" and I was like "why" and my brain was like "lol pops was friendly to me so she must be town."

I also caught something that bothers me:

So like
Datisi
Luca Blight

Iconeum
Alduskkel
Menalque

alimdia
emps

wickedjestr

spatial representation readslists are antitown i dont have my energy for my 2014 soapbox about discussing your reads but keeping them off the maximal extent to where they help scum nk unlynchable but the above the null line crap tried really hard to trigger 2014 pops to show up

Is the first quote not literally a spatial representation reads list?

As for Wicked, I feel that his IRL busyness and it being 2 years since he played town are reasonable explanations for the case against him. So I'm drifting a bit back towards null on this slot.

And while I was isoing I noticed: Wicked, in your last post you said you're scumleaning me but haven't indicated any reasons why. So, why?

[alimdia]

Ye I'm also getting pause from Luca's about turn. We vibing hard at the moment.

Bro just cos Emps not into this game is anti town, we should lynch him anyway?

AHHHh fuck thats also why I think Pops is town (and datisi too). This feels like survivor holy shit.

[Alduskkel]

I've seen way worse players than emps. I'm not policy lynching him.

Also, be honest: are you buddying me?

[Datisi]

Ye I'm also getting pause from Luca's about turn. We vibing hard at the moment.

Er, what are you exactly vibing with him on?

[Datisi]

As for Wicked, I feel that his IRL busyness and it being 2 years since he played town are reasonable explanations for the case against him. So I'm drifting a bit back towards null on this slot.

This again feels very convenient. Can you show me your progression here?

Who is actually in your lynch pool atm?

[Alduskkel]

Progression? He started posting more, and he gave those IRL explanations. My progression was null to scummy (based on what I said and what Ico said) back to somewhere between null and scummy. And I don't see how it's convenient, if anything I think it'd be more convenient for me to keep pushing Wicked. Which reminds me, another thing that pushes my read away from Wicked being scum is that, as you noted, basically everyone except emps scumread Wicked, and I think emps is town, so if Wicked is scum then his teammate declared suspicion along with everyone else.

What do you mean by lynch pool? Do you mean my scumreads? In that case, I'm still looking hardest and Wicked, pops, and Luca. But unfortunately I'm second guessing myself on all 3.

[Datisi]

Idk, the posting more and stuff like that is NAI I feel. I just think that the majority of your reads are not explained well which makes me suspicious.

I've just come out and said "I don't wanna lynch wicked if everyone's attacking him", if you just kept pushing him obviously it wouldn't go through because for some reason people are listening to me. That's why I say it's convenient.

Lynch pool = people who you are considering lynching.

[Luca Blight]

Datisi, how are you reading Pops atm?

[Datisi]

*sound of bees flying manically*

I don't know. I think the slot had scummy moments but I still doubt since it might be playstyle. I like pops posting but I can't shake off the suspicion. I can try to go into it later, but they're not in my lynch pool for D1 rn

[Luca Blight]

Aldu, please explain why the way I made the Wimpy/Wicked pushes was scummy? Please also take into account the way you have been pushing those same wagons.

[Luca Blight]

*sound of bees flying manically*

I don't know. I think the slot had scummy moments but I still doubt since it might be playstyle. I like pops posting but I can't shake off the suspicion. I can try to go into it later, but they're not in my lynch pool for D1 rn

The reason I ask is because I get the feeling I’m being pocketed and it’s making me a little paranoid. I get you/Icon having a strong TR of me as you’ve seen how I play as Town, but I’m surprised she townreads me to such a degree.

[Datisi]

emps first instead?
Emps seems to be the common denominator in Datisi's reads too.

I forgot to earlier, but should prob make this clear
Emps is still Townleaning for me
I mentioned him as a possible partner for scum!Wicked based on "he'd be the only one who wouldn't be bussing"

I do not /think/ he's scum, not rn at least

[alimdia]

I've seen way worse players than emps. I'm not policy lynching him.

Also, be honest: are you buddying me?

A little bit ye, but I'm not scum (I looked at the wiki definition of buddying)

Ye I'm also getting pause from Luca's about turn. We vibing hard at the moment.

Er, what are you exactly vibing with him on?

I was thinking Luca might be more town and then Aldu says it too.

*sound of bees flying manically*

I don't know. I think the slot had scummy moments but I still doubt since it might be playstyle. I like pops posting but I can't shake off the suspicion. I can try to go into it later, but they're not in my lynch pool for D1 rn

The reason I ask is because I get the feeling I’m being pocketed and it’s making me a little paranoid. I get you/Icon having a strong TR of me as you’ve seen how I play as Town, but I’m surprised she townreads me to such a degree.

Its not too late to jump into my pocket instead.

[alimdia]

emps first instead?
Emps seems to be the common denominator in Datisi's reads too.

I forgot to earlier, but should prob make this clear
Emps is still Townleaning for me
I mentioned him as a possible partner for scum!Wicked based on "he'd be the only one who wouldn't be bussing"

I do not /think/ he's scum, not rn at least

So WHO is in your lynch pool then?

Sounds like only wicked at this point.

[Datisi]

Wait, so you were vibing with Aldu then?

And Aldu mostly.
- Wicked is still sus to me don't get me wrong but I still think he wouldn't be getting bussed here
- I'm very not clear on your slot but if nobody else is willing to go there then eh
- pops is pops

[alimdia]

Ye I was talking about Aldu, soz if unclear.

>.>

<.<

transfers immunity to lynching necklace to Aldu*

brb watching survivor

[Datisi]

Ok, now that you've answered, i can ask

Also, be honest: are you buddying me?

Aldu, has this question and the answer had influence on your read? If so, what was it?

[Iconeum]

i'd lynch in wicked/aldu rn

[Iconeum]

aldu would be a sheep vote from me, i like Luca's case there

[Iconeum]

VOTE: Aldu

L-1

let's hear a claim Aldu

[Iconeum]

VOTE: Aldu

L-1

let's hear a claim Aldu

[Alduskkel]

Wimpy has definitely been the scummiest player so far. I don’t necessarily agree with all the reasoning against him, but there is something about the way he’s defending himself that doesn’t sit right with me. I’ll try and put my finger on it tomorrow.

I'm scumreading Wimpy based on his method of defence, but I'm not fine with ending the day yet as if he does flip town then we gain nothing from it.

These are some of your earliest posts, where you indicate suspicion of him but don't vote him, explain why you're suspicious (just that it has something to do with his defense), or even commit to a vote on him. This is an easy way to add fuel/pressure to a wagon without being a primary aggressor like Datisi/Menalque. There are plenty of other posts (620, 636, 645) where you further pressure Wimpy which no doubt contributed to him feeling the entire town was against him, which (assuming Wimpy is town) is a pro-scum maneuver.

This feels like a wicked wagon.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Wicked

Still not sure about his menalque critique but I generally like Icon’s opening, particularly his point against Wicked.

Here you just casually get on the Wicked wagon without adding any analysis, and right when two other players (Ico and Datisi, who are mostly townread by others) also got on. I also have a special distaste for the 3rd vote in a 9 player situation because it puts the voter comfortably in the middle of the wagon -- not a leader like the first 1 or 2 votes, and not the person who makes it really serious like the last 2 (L-1 and hammer).

And i was actually trying to get Wimpy to not tunnel so hard so we could look at other slots, so it really feels like you’re misrepping me there.

I also notice Aldu is townreading emps partly for not pushing Wimpy and partly scumreading me for pushing Wimpy, yet I’m pretty sure emps ‘pushed’ Wimpy at least as much as I did, if not more.

These posts are both misrepresentations. Although I can't prove that they're intentional, in the first one you could be trying to revise history to give the impression you were "only" trying to help Wimpy when you were also very much pressuring him, and the second one misrepresents my case to make it look a lot weaker than it is. Also, in 1040 you say my townread on ali is rushed but it really hasn't been -- I said I was starting to townread ali back on page 25.

And your back-and-forths with me about being on the sidelines and with ali about being PoE'd just seem like bad faith attempts to flip the accusation back onto the accuser.

Ok, now that you've answered, i can ask

Also, be honest: are you buddying me?

Aldu, has this question and the answer had influence on your read? If so, what was it?

Alim's response is a mild town tell. Scum-Alim might have responded to the question by reflexively denying that any buddying was occurring.

[Alduskkel]

I'm not willing to claim yet. What made you decide to vote me? In 1244/1245 it sounds like you weren't yet planning on voting me, then suddenly you did.