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Post Post #1750 (ISO) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:20 am

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Coupled with your sudden strong concern for mechanically correct play out of nowhere lmao
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Post Post #1751 (ISO) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:21 am

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In post 1743, Luca Blight wrote:It’s a team game though, Pops. I wouldn’t have unvoted without good reason.
I figured someone like alimdia might unvote.
I do feel a little bad about the undemocraticness and tyranny of a lolhammer, but at the same time with deadline somewhat near there is incidental undemocracy from, if we go to the next claim, and that claim is also VT, and I TR that slot more than I TR Menalque, it's possible the town as a whole agrees with me in that assessment, but there's too much V/LA and afk to safely move the votes back over to Menalque.

That's how I rationalize it, I'm sorry if it feels like a jerk move

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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1752 (ISO) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:21 am

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In post 1747, Menalque wrote:
In post 1743, Luca Blight wrote:It’s a team game though, Pops. I wouldn’t have unvoted without good reason.
Luca do you disagree with my proposed lynch order?
I haven’t had time to fully digest what has happened, but my initial reaction is also to lynch Pops Tomorrow.

Wicked’s case still feels townie to me, though.
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Post Post #1753 (ISO) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:21 am

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I just got a really

~evil~

vibe here
from someone
and I can't tell who

I'm sorry. I'll see either one or the rest of you in a couple of days.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #1754 (ISO) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:22 am

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Deadline is like 3 and a half days? We’re literally halfway through the game
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Post Post #1755 (ISO) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:22 am

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In post 1750, Menalque wrote:Coupled with your sudden strong concern for mechanically correct play out of nowhere lmao
Menalque wtf you watched me spend the entirety of AvP being anal retentive about extracting the maximum drops of value out of the fruit mechanic
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1756 (ISO) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:23 am

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In post 1752, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 1747, Menalque wrote:
In post 1743, Luca Blight wrote:It’s a team game though, Pops. I wouldn’t have unvoted without good reason.
Luca do you disagree with my proposed lynch order?
I haven’t had time to fully digest what has happened, but my initial reaction is also to lynch Pops Tomorrow.

Wicked’s case still feels townie to me, though.
If I hadn’t been lynched I would have had time to explain why wicked’s case is perfectly plausible from scum!wicked and v much in line with his meta from C9++
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Post Post #1757 (ISO) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:24 am

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In post 1755, popsofctown wrote:
In post 1750, Menalque wrote:Coupled with your sudden strong concern for mechanically correct play out of nowhere lmao
Menalque wtf you watched me spend the entirety of AvP being anal retentive about extracting the maximum drops of value out of the fruit mechanic
In post 1751, popsofctown wrote:
In post 1743, Luca Blight wrote:It’s a team game though, Pops. I wouldn’t have unvoted without good reason.
I figured someone like alimdia might unvote.
I do feel a little bad about the undemocraticness and tyranny of a lolhammer, but at the same time with deadline somewhat near there is incidental undemocracy from, if we go to the next claim, and that claim is also VT, and I TR that slot more than I TR Menalque, it's possible the town as a whole agrees with me in that assessment, but there's too much V/LA and afk to safely move the votes back over to Menalque.

That's how I rationalize it, I'm sorry if it feels like a jerk move

pedit: wow many posts
It’s not a jerk move, it’s just scum opportunism knowing that if you didn’t lynch me today, and especially if I didn’t lynch scum you’d have to burn a NK on me
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Post Post #1758 (ISO) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:24 am

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Idk why that quoted both
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Post Post #1759 (ISO) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:25 am

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In post 1749, Menalque wrote:
In post 1741, popsofctown wrote:
In post 1734, Luca Blight wrote:It seems crazy how you’d hammer before catching-up.
I was mostly caught up.

I didn't want people to have a chance to unvote

pedit: yes, I did lolhammer because I was concerned your lynch wouldn't go through.
You realise that absolutely no one is buying this as a move from town!you after how you went on about being able to read me successfully if you had enough time with me, right?
The sane cop that doesn't get NKed because we didn't run him up and claim him/her out has better "reads" than I do. My ego has limits. Pretty tight ones, actually.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1760 (ISO) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:25 am

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In post 1752, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 1747, Menalque wrote:
In post 1743, Luca Blight wrote:It’s a team game though, Pops. I wouldn’t have unvoted without good reason.
Luca do you disagree with my proposed lynch order?
I haven’t had time to fully digest what has happened, but my initial reaction is also to lynch Pops Tomorrow.

Wicked’s case still feels townie to me, though.
Also commit to the rest one way or another

The order should be pops —> wicked —> Icon —> you

If not, why not?
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Post Post #1761 (ISO) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:26 am

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I would have greatly preferred you didn't claim VT at L-1 + obviously fake intent and let me read you D3, yes, but I'm sure you'll blame me instead of yourself in postgame
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Post Post #1762 (ISO) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:27 am

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In post 1759, popsofctown wrote:
In post 1749, Menalque wrote:
In post 1741, popsofctown wrote:
In post 1734, Luca Blight wrote:It seems crazy how you’d hammer before catching-up.
I was mostly caught up.

I didn't want people to have a chance to unvote

pedit: yes, I did lolhammer because I was concerned your lynch wouldn't go through.
You realise that absolutely no one is buying this as a move from town!you after how you went on about being able to read me successfully if you had enough time with me, right?
The sane cop that doesn't get NKed because we didn't run him up and claim him/her out has better "reads" than I do. My ego has limits. Pretty tight ones, actually.
If there’s a cop in the game, if you or your scumbuddy don’t counterclaim them later on
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Post Post #1763 (ISO) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:27 am

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In post 1760, Menalque wrote:
In post 1752, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 1747, Menalque wrote:
In post 1743, Luca Blight wrote:It’s a team game though, Pops. I wouldn’t have unvoted without good reason.
Luca do you disagree with my proposed lynch order?
I haven’t had time to fully digest what has happened, but my initial reaction is also to lynch Pops Tomorrow.

Wicked’s case still feels townie to me, though.
Also commit to the rest one way or another

The order should be pops —> wicked —> Icon —> you

If not, why not?
Why would I commit to anything right this moment?

I don’t scumread Wicked or Icon, and I know I’m Town, so I don’t agree with that order.
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Post Post #1764 (ISO) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:28 am

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Pops unless you believe that in all micros the optimal strategy mechanically is “lynch the first wagon to reach L-1 regardless because otherwise you might get multiple claims and that’s bad mechanically” then you’re just scum
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Post Post #1765 (ISO) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:29 am

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Okay Luca so tell me who’s more likely to flip scum than any of the names in that list once obvscum!pops gets lynched
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Post Post #1766 (ISO) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:30 am

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How are any of emps/aldu/alim/dats more likely to

(1) flip scum at all than icon/wicked

(2) more likely to be partners with pops than icon/wicked?
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Post Post #1767 (ISO) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:31 am

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In post 1761, popsofctown wrote:I would have greatly preferred you didn't claim VT at L-1 + obviously fake intent and let me read you D3, yes, but I'm sure you'll blame me instead of yourself in postgame
Well you already know I’m town because you share a scum pt with someone who isn’t me
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Post Post #1768 (ISO) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:32 am

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And again, I won’t blame you because you have a red role pm and eliminating me here when you had the opportunity was a solid move

If town let you live for it, then it was an excellent move, but they really shouldn’t
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Post Post #1769 (ISO) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:32 am

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In post 1765, Menalque wrote:Okay Luca so tell me who’s more likely to flip scum than any of the names in that list once obvscum!pops gets lynched
I townread Icon and Datisi. Wicked is a town-lean that I will re-evaluate if I’m still around tomorrow.

Take your pick from the rest.
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Post Post #1770 (ISO) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:32 am

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I'm a little concerned about how quickly Iconeum switched between the mena!scum aldu!scum theory and the mena!scum aldu!town theory?
Maybe it was organic.
I don't know.
I will have to work on a good solve tomorrow because I guess this is going to 5p lylo

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Post Post #1771 (ISO) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:32 am

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What about the way that icon pushed conf!town today makes him town?
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Post Post #1772 (ISO) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:33 am

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Menalque write the %age sure you are that I am scum in this game of mafia
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1773 (ISO) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:03 am

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Votecount 1.8
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popsofctown
- 1 (emps)
Menalque
- 5 (Wickedestjr, Luca Blight, alimdia, Iconeum, popsofctown)

Wickedestjr
- 2 (Datisi, Menalque)
Luca Blight
- 1 (Alduskkel)

Not Voting
- None

With 9 alive, 5 votes achieves a lynch. Scene follows.


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is V/LA 11/15-11/17.
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Post Post #1774 (ISO) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:12 am

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Day 1 Lynch
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Night 1 deadline: (expired on 2019-11-17 04:00:00)
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