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Post Post #3825 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:16 am

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In post 3643, Lady 6 wrote:What if the scumteam is G1 G4 and G8?

G6 can you link your path to victory? I'm working 12 hour days until the weekend.
Here.
You claim G1 is possible scum team but your still obsessed on voting G8.
I feel Town you would at least consider voting G1 and not jump on G8 in your first post giving little to no information.

Oh and an FYI.
I will fuckin push you when I need to.
And you will fuckin die if your scum.
If your town I’ll also know.
Don’t try me.
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Post Post #3826 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:58 am

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In post 3814, Lady 5 wrote:At that point we must figure out who out of L6/L9 is scum.
L9

I'm trusting G6 on this. If it's wrong then he took over the game and singlehandedly wrecked it and well I don't really feel a town loss is inappropriate there.
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Post Post #3827 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:01 am

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In post 3824, Lady 5 wrote:L6 is most likely scum trying to avoid getting the pair of G1/L2 lynched.
If L6 is scum their wincon is certainly not to keep the scum in G1/L2 alive to endgame. Scum have no incentive to keep each other alive here. What they have an incentive to do is to avoid creating any associatives.
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Post Post #3828 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:02 am

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In post 3825, Lady 5 wrote:Oh and an FYI.
I will fuckin push you when I need to.
And you will fuckin die if your scum.
If your town I’ll also know.
If you could sort L6 that'd be fantastic.
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Post Post #3829 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:05 am

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I don't think L5 has an interest to regardless of her alignment. L5's push back is survivalistic. The G5 G6 fight was secondary to the push on G8 which did get traction somewhat yesterday. Today, people forget G8 exists. Lady 5 picking fights, regardless of her alignment does something for someone.

I'm not opposed to a G1 lynch but I'm strongly in favor of a G8 lynch. So was G5 before he was shot.
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Post Post #3830 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:09 am

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In post 3827, Gentleman 3 wrote:
In post 3824, Lady 5 wrote:L6 is most likely scum trying to avoid getting the pair of G1/L2 lynched.
If L6 is scum their wincon is certainly not to keep the scum in G1/L2 alive to endgame. Scum have no incentive to keep each other alive here. What they have an incentive to do is to avoid creating any associatives.
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Post Post #3831 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:11 am

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In post 3414, FakeGod wrote:
VoteCount 1.3


Gentleman 2 - Lady 9 [0] -
Gentleman 4 - Lady 3 [0] -
Gentleman 5 - Lady 4 [5] -
Gentleman 6,
Lady 5, Lady 9, Lady 2,
Gentleman 2

Gentleman 6 - Lady 8 [0] -
Gentleman 7 - Lady 7 [0] -
Gentleman 3 - Lady 6 [1] - Gentleman 4
Gentleman 8 - Lady 5 [5] - Lady 6, Gentleman 7,
Gentleman 5, Lady 3, Lady 4

Gentleman 1 - Lady 2 [0] -

Not Voting [6]
- Gentleman 1, Gentleman 3,
Gentleman 6
, Gentleman 8, Lady 7, Lady 8

With 16 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch
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Post Post #3832 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:06 pm

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In post 3827, Gentleman 3 wrote:
In post 3824, Lady 5 wrote:L6 is most likely scum trying to avoid getting the pair of G1/L2 lynched.
If L6 is scum their wincon is certainly not to keep the scum in G1/L2 alive to endgame. Scum have no incentive to keep each other alive here. What they have an incentive to do is to avoid creating any associatives.
Maybe not.
But they choose to refuse to lynch a scum read that’s top and go to lynch their other scum read G8 instead?

G3. Think about it.

They scum read them. But don’t vote them.
If they flip scum, they don’t lose anything.
Think about that.
They are playing like how scum would play.
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Post Post #3833 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:07 pm

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In post 3829, Lady 6 wrote:I don't think L5 has an interest to regardless of her alignment. L5's push back is survivalistic. The G5 G6 fight was secondary to the push on G8 which did get traction somewhat yesterday. Today, people forget G8 exists. Lady 5 picking fights, regardless of her alignment does something for someone.

I'm not opposed to a G1 lynch but I'm strongly in favor of a G8 lynch. So was G5 before he was shot.
Why? I still never have the soul reason why.

And no one forgot G8 exists. G1 was the Lynch Day 1 if G4 and G6 didn’t have a fit.
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Post Post #3834 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:13 pm

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In post 3830, Lady 6 wrote:
In post 3827, Gentleman 3 wrote:
In post 3824, Lady 5 wrote:L6 is most likely scum trying to avoid getting the pair of G1/L2 lynched.
If L6 is scum their wincon is certainly not to keep the scum in G1/L2 alive to endgame. Scum have no incentive to keep each other alive here. What they have an incentive to do is to avoid creating any associatives.
+1
In post 3831, Lady 6 wrote:
In post 3414, FakeGod wrote:
VoteCount 1.3


Gentleman 2 - Lady 9 [0] -
Gentleman 4 - Lady 3 [0] -
Gentleman 5 - Lady 4 [5] -
Gentleman 6,
Lady 5, Lady 9, Lady 2,
Gentleman 2

Gentleman 6 - Lady 8 [0] -
Gentleman 7 - Lady 7 [0] -
Gentleman 3 - Lady 6 [1] - Gentleman 4
Gentleman 8 - Lady 5 [5] - Lady 6, Gentleman 7,
Gentleman 5, Lady 3, Lady 4

Gentleman 1 - Lady 2 [0] -

Not Voting [6]
- Gentleman 1, Gentleman 3,
Gentleman 6
, Gentleman 8, Lady 7, Lady 8

With 16 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch
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You didn’t Town yourself?
Also This is why I compare you with Gent 7 over Lady 9 with Gent 7 because of that vote.
Gent 7 also switched until G1 which is the right move. But then says Lady 9 is the scum. Which I feel a scum vibe of him saying that with no doubt in his mind.

It’s like it makes sense for the team to be G1, G7 and L6.

L6 scum Reads G1 but doesn’t push. Votes G8.
G7 Voted G8 previously, G7 tells mafia “Hey let’s kill G5/L4 and blame it on L9”. Then bus votes G1.
G1 telling mafia they give up and taking one for the team.

G1 In NO WORLD dose he vote G7/L7.
He may vote L9 to make it seem like a bus
He may vote L6 and try to convince me his Town even though that’s stupid.
Or vote L6 and tell G7 that they could be mafia.
He may vote G8 as it makes the most probable sense as a mafia to do that makes them Null Mafia leaving no interactions.
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Post Post #3835 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:03 pm

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In post 3824, Lady 5 wrote:@G7
I don’t want to look like I’m saying “Your Lock Scum! Die!”
But like, in a world where Town G2/L9 wouldn’t be killed.
Is where scum wants to blame it all on L9 being scum.
Which is what your saying and you are defending L6.
Which also worries me.
Well, why did G5/L4 die instead of G2/L9? Because to me, I was getting kind of skeptical of G5 after his ending posts before intermission, although I couldn't exactly comment on it. I get that scum casting doubt on that pair is a possible move, but when that pair has the IC in it, I don't think it's really something to go for. Although, if a pair does flip S/S, then it will make it far less likely that L9 is the last one.

Could you explain how there is a world where L9 is town and isn't the NK instead of G5/L4?
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Post Post #3836 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:10 pm

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In post 3835, Gentleman 7 wrote:
In post 3824, Lady 5 wrote:@G7
I don’t want to look like I’m saying “Your Lock Scum! Die!”
But like, in a world where Town G2/L9 wouldn’t be killed.
Is where scum wants to blame it all on L9 being scum.
Which is what your saying and you are defending L6.
Which also worries me.
Well, why did G5/L4 die instead of G2/L9? Because to me, I was getting kind of skeptical of G5 after his ending posts before intermission, although I couldn't exactly comment on it. I get that scum casting doubt on that pair is a possible move, but when that pair has the IC in it, I don't think it's really something to go for. Although, if a pair does flip S/S, then it will make it far less likely that L9 is the last one.

Could you explain how there is a world where L9 is town and isn't the NK instead of G5/L4?
Where mafia is trying to frame them.

G5 said he thought G3/L6 would be the Night Kill.
The fact that they were instead should be more telling that L6 is more mafia over Lady 9.
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Post Post #3837 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:12 pm

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And once again G8 serves no help at all.
I can’t even talk to him about stuff or anything because his activity is this low.
Yet the FakeGod allows him to continue being inactive.
SMH.
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Post Post #3838 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:13 pm

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@L6 want to respond to my posts?
Or would you rather just stand there looking pretty?
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Post Post #3839 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:14 pm

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This game would be so much easier if my partner was G3.
I’d just tell everyone to leave the dance in a certain order and Town would win.
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Post Post #3840 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:29 pm

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I will work on catching up more another day but I will be reading the current events. Current impressions are that L9 and L5 are probably worth suspicion.
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Post Post #3841 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:34 pm

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In post 3817, Lady 5 wrote:
In post 3812, Lady 5 wrote:The team is probably this:
G7, G1 and one of L6/L9.
Oopsie me.
Looks like mafia will vote me now because they scared.
;)
This is a rather cheap tactic, pre-emptively discrediting any votes on them with the idea that the scum agenda is to vote them.
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Post Post #3842 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:40 pm

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L5 is obsessed with enforcing her story of how the game is working. Narrative pushing will be promptly shot down if I have anything to say about it.
VOTE: Lady 5
Another point against her is how much she is talking about how G8 is not doing anything. That seems like a sort of guilty conscience-based mindset where she is most likely thinking, “why can’t my partner be around to make me not have to work so hard to preserve my pairing?”
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Post Post #3843 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 2:55 am

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Not surprised. We should focus on who is town today, we can probably win with 1 t-t pair. I like 3-6 right now. And my pair, naturally.

Now that we're down to 5 pairs left I'm hard eyeing pair 7-7 and thinking it's not likely for this pair to be 2 town (with the knowledge that I'm town)

In the sense that only 1 other pair can be t-t
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Post Post #3844 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:17 am

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In post 3840, Gentleman 1 wrote:I will work on catching up more another day but I will be reading the current events. Current impressions are that L9 and L5 are probably worth suspicion.
This is bad.
This is scum.
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Post Post #3845 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:18 am

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In post 3843, Lady 9 wrote:Not surprised. We should focus on who is town today, we can probably win with 1 t-t pair. I like 3-6 right now. And my pair, naturally.

Now that we're down to 5 pairs left I'm hard eyeing pair 7-7 and thinking it's not likely for this pair to be 2 town (with the knowledge that I'm town)

In the sense that only 1 other pair can be t-t
I disagree.
I think L6 is Mafia.
I do agree that “77” contains a scum within in.
I personality think it’s Gentleman 7.
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Post Post #3846 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:19 am

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@FakeGod

Why didn’t you just replace G8? He’s probably just trolling and doesn’t care about this game.
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Post Post #3847 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:41 am

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In post 3838, Lady 5 wrote:@L6 want to respond to my posts?
Or would you rather just stand there looking pretty?
The situation here is annoying. You completely sidestepped my reasoning for scumreading G8. Instead, you've been begging for a replacement for this slot and your own. You could have left the dance if you felt G8 was scum avoiding the thread. You're putting in zero effort on sorting it. Your posts look more motivated to survive.

The insistence that I am somehow dodging your posts here with less than 24 hours is also problematic. It reeks of you spamming the thread so people think T v T or somehow I'm a problem.

I already laid out why I prefer G8 to G1. Nothing has happened to change that.
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Post Post #3848 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:06 am

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Bleh not gonna lie. I’ve lost some interest in this game. On the one hand I’m super happy I’m so overly invested in the game that the anti-town shenanigans of first dance cost us 4 town in the worst way possible, but on the other hand it’s extremely demotivating especially when nobody is behaving obviously town. There’s no touchstone here, I have concerns I’m not in a t/t pair which gives me no real reason to fight, and the only other person I know is town is only by virtue of the mid telling me so, but he’s the most useless ICs I’ve ever seen. I thought maybe he, and l9, were holding back to escape the nightkill, but they both entered today with useless posts at best.

The l5/g8 team needs to go for on the one hand not doing shit and on the other for contribution. Some of the contribution is put terrible when you can understand it, but so much of it’s been so distracting. One thing I do not like right now is acting like l9 cannot be suspected and g7 is scum for being concerned that the ic pair didn’t die because l9 is scum. But a lot of l5’s thoughts are super surface, which might represent her level of play rather than scum? IDK.

Why isn’t l9 scum? Come on people, her approach to the game is so scum motivated it’s ridiculous. Starts off strong with some analytical posts early day one and then floats on the laurels of early town reads for the rest of the game. How is this town? How is this above suspicion? I also don’t like her post today, mostly in the part where she feels the need to include her being young oerslective. It’s like no shit, you don’t need to qualify that but sometimes scum do. Also if g1 is scum, she poo-pooed my earlier read on g1 for posting to post. Look at her beginning of first dance hop onto g5, which seemed to be sleeping g6 predance rather than any kind of assessment of her own.

So what is town about her? I don’t see it. Also if there are five pairs left and she confidently likes l6/g3, what that Piet should have said is she’s willing to tear through the last three pairs because they contain all the pairs. So why specifically say your taking a hard eye in 7-7. Kinda makes me think we’re actually a town town pair she needs to get rid of.

I don’t get the town reads in g3 either really. He just feels like scum. I hate him not trying to read his partner and just saying well g6 called her town so it’s his fault if we lose cuz of that.

Not sure about l6. I’m not overly suspicious there, but I don’t know how much this is g6 really vouching there, but I wouldn’t be surprised if she flips scum.

G1 just really overall looks like scum. A lot a lot of his posts are just posting. And hey you know what I do this too, it’s not scum indicative in a vacuum, but a lot of empty posting that says nothing and just comments is a concern, especially when you’re perpetually 2000 posts behind. Like, if you’re town figure out a different method cuz this one isn’t working. That on top of getting pissy because people are pointing out his empty posts and acting like it’s some buzzword instead of a manner of scumhunting that’s been around since the inception of mafia is terrible. I especially did not like this post:
In post 3797, Gentleman 1 wrote:Before G6 leaves I would like to call out that I feel several players have been rather uninvolved in the proceedings recently. I want to try a more direct call out soon.
Mostly because he wasn’t trying to stop the shit from happening, so why be planning to call people out? He made a post which said people should only leave if they suspect their partners, but that’s it. Hi pocrisy isn’t a scumtell, but this just reads wrong. I do like some things that g1 posts, but he feels like scum in a vacuum.

I don’t have a tangible reason to think g7 is scum, some of it is just a flat tone and sometimes the sense that sometimes he’s posting what he thinks town him would post, but that one is difficult to be confident about without knowing the main.

So that’s where I’m at, a big fat no place. I don’t know how g6 thought so many people were being obvtown here. I’m not sure if it’s because I’m super rusty, or if obvtown has become such a useless commodity these days p, but I just don’t see it. And normally, I’d step in and try to be a guide, but it’s difficult when you’re tethered to someone you’re not sure is town. Right now I’m trying to figure out if I should try to get a scum lynch or if I should leave. It’s weird.

Anyway it’d be really nice if the town in this town started acting like it.
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Post Post #3849 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:08 am

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*im super happy I’m not so overly invested that that behavior pissed me off.

Weird I’m not drunk just can’t finish thoughts apparently.
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