Newbie 1963 - Game Over

[Uncrowned]

I'm yet to catch up on anything Eth0s has said so once I've done that I'll be casting my vote on either him or JV depending on what I think, will probably ask questions.

Don't really like how Duck has kinda glossed over what I've said on JV but can't really say it's susp considering how I've seen that slot throughout the game

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm yet to catch up on anything Eth0s has said so once I've done that I'll be casting my vote on either him or JV depending on what I think, will probably ask questions.

Don't really like how Duck has kinda glossed over what I've said on JV but can't really say it's susp considering how I've seen that slot throughout the game

Regardless of the fact that you're lockscum from my pov and are just using AtE with ducky right now lol, if they do something sus you can say it even if you've been townreading the slot since day dot. It's not like there's a law against saying if someone did something fishy

[JacksonVirgo]

Also, regardless of what happens FF won't live past tomorrow and I am gon' miss his overconfident attitude :c

[JacksonVirgo]

Also, regardless of what happens FF won't live past tomorrow and I am gon' miss his overconfident attitude :c

past tonight*

[Uncrowned]

How am I using AtE with Worst I'm literally saying that I think it's a bad move that he's glossimg over the end of my ISO.

[Uncrowned]

The fact you're reaching like that makes me want to put my vote on you but either way we're lynching scum so unless Eth0s has put up something convincing I'll be voting him

[Uncrowned]

Worst's entire reasoning behind why he thinks you're town seems to be AtE which can be faked. If he wants to ignore the connections I've been making then I can't really hate on him for it. Odd for someone who has taken the rest of the game with such an analytical approach but what can you do. It's just a game.

[the worst]

i'm not sold on the {uncr,JV} situation yet just think there's most likely 1 scum in there and that eth0s is scum
i'll accept "bad play", if you insist. :/ I've been getting ready for family to stay with me.


Uncr I need your take on eth0s, please. in as much detail as possible.

[Uncrowned]

I'm not saying it's bad play I just think it needs to be addressed and isn't being right now.

And yeah will look through what's been said and I'll make an assessment on him. Pretty sure 9 times out of 10 he's scum based solely on my reads on your slot and the fact we have confirmed town but you never know

[Micc]

Votecount 3.03

eth0s (1) -

JacksonVirgo

JacksonVirgo (1) -

eth0s

Not Voting (3) -

Uncrowned, the worst, Formerfish

With 5 players alive it takes 3 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 3 is in (expired on 2019-11-18 23:50:00).

Prodding eth0s.

[eth0s]

Why am I scum

[Formerfish]

Ducky what does why me equal?

[the worst]

VOTE: Eth0s

Ducky what does why me equal?

defs depends but given the last few pages I don't think it's coming from town; feels lollcatty

[the worst]

Think there's a world where I lynch Uncr today then reevaluate tomorrow but I also think eth0s is probably just more likely to be scum and I'm not totally sure I get him right in 3p if I'm wrong about him here

[Formerfish]

VOTE: Ethos

[the worst]

Mafia gods please deliver us a scumflip

[Micc]

Votecount 3.04

eth0s (3) -

JacksonVirgo, the worst, Formerfish

JacksonVirgo (1) -

eth0s

Not Voting (1) -

Uncrowned

With 5 players alive it takes 3 votes to lynch.

A lynch has been achieved.

[Micc]

eth0s has been lynched Day 3. He was a

Mafia Goon

.

It is now Night 3. The deadline for Night 3 is in (expired on 2019-11-19 16:05:00).

[Micc]

Formerfish has been killed Night 3. He was a

Town Mason

.

It is now Day 4.

Votecount 4.00

Not Voting (3) -

Uncrowned, JacksonVirgo, the worst

With 3 players alive it takes 2 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 4 is in (expired on 2019-11-26 16:45:00).

[the worst]

I did no more legwork overnight as I was lowkey paranoid I'd just die.
Uncr ISO incoming.
I'm fine if you guys are interested in crossvoting.
Explaining why you're playing a town wincon is currently more valuable to me than you casing each other. It's hard to believe; one of you is a townie with a guilty and the other is scum who knows who they need to push.

[the worst]

Tentatively: @Uncr, I don't think Eth0s pushed JV in good faith f3 and I think their reaction to this was very honest. Could you talk to me about what you're seeing there?

[the worst]

I haven't been that active, mainly because I had a lot of stuff happening the past day. But here are my current reads. If I missed anyone, they're null.
---- Town ----
Teacher
JV

---- Null ----
Datis
Uncrowned

---- Scum ----
FormerFish
Marionette

Flipped scum missing from this readlist

Because I totally didn't forget their names

This wrt stated nullread on Uncr/Dat but other nulls by default
kinda interesting JV didn't move their vote until after this given they had scummier slots at the time; I believe the reasoning was that they didn't want to risk hammers happening

Before I start, there is absolutely no order in this list outside of the sections (scum, town, null).

My reads as of right now.
Teacher and FormerFish are a TvS

bugspray | Chibiie

Chibiie seemed to answer questions with actual effort making me lean to town.

Gardenia

- They seemed to be reluctant to vote at all at first, which doesn't inherently mean anything but then teacher stated that they wrote that out as scum.

FormerFish

- wanted a lynch wagon on Teacher early on. Then claimed chibiie was scum whether as a joke or otherwise. They're currently a scumlean for me.

Gyro

- Seemed to be lurking could be an SvS with FF.

Datisi | Saladman27

- Salad seemed townie and Datisi seems somewhat null currently so I am townleaning that

Marionette

- Voted without a reason, scumlean

Uncrowned

- This one is null to me.

If I missed anyone, let me know.

TLDR;

TOWNLEAN

• bugspray
  
• Gardenia
  
• Datisi

NULL

• Uncrowned

SCUMLEAN

• FF
  
• Gyro
  
• Mari

This is where they change their vote to Mr Fishy; bases on flips aorn we know that all of their scumreads have been town and their townreads have been scum but that's kind of a common theme on d1 given Gard was quite audacious for newscum

Bugs read is a little surface. Agree w fishy read in context (also didn't realise this was a mason at the time). Other scumreads at this juncture are kinda policy (Gyro lurking, Mari not explaining their vote).

Read on Gardenia is kinda "this should be null but teacher said it isn't so I'm not nullreading it" which is an interesting standard vs. the rest of the reads in the list; JV largely makes an effort to form their own reads otherwise

Oh right, Teacher. I town read them. A TvS with you in fact as I stated.

I relate to this read but just reaffirming for myself that none of the three of us caught the mason breadloafing d1

To put it simply, I voted because I feel they are a TvS with Teacher. The fact Gyro jumped onto that with a naked vote makes me want to get off that shiz as fast as I can.

I don't remember writing that anywhere but yes I feel Gyro/Fish are a SvS and this might be a way of Gyro getting towncred but I also think Teacher/Fish is a TvS.

So currently my reads are FF and Gyro being scum. I left that wagon because I don't want it to be lynched yet.

Gyro/Fishy is kind of an interesting take and I need to check how this developed given they've flipped t/t

gonna hit SUBMIT a bit more in general because my phone battery is v low

[the worst]

Ah yes, I think I missed you asking this. What I wrote about Teacher made me think FF/Teach was a TvS and did not change my read on Gard at all, I wrote that in the wrong spot. However, I TL them because they really haven't given me a reason not too. Probably not the greatest reason but yep.

this feels interesting vs. e.g. reads on Gyro, Mari; latter have been largely scumread for underexplaining/lurking but gard feels as though she's getting a full on free pass into the townlist. yet I don't feel like she had been elaborately explaining at this point either.

Discussion you had with Bugs a bit earlier about "you trying to buddy them" or whatever, you make anything out of that?

Honestly, I've got two total outcomes in my head (probably not the write wording)

Since I am set on TvS {Teacher, FF}. It's either SvS {FF, Gyro} (meaning it could be Gyro/Teacher) or SvS {FF, bug}

I feel bad for being discredity particularly in a newbie game but on reread I'm not sure these are real thoughts - imo bugs was p towny even disregarding FF's ~fancy play~ on day one; I'm not sure substituting {FF,teacher} for each other to create a scumteam with Gyro is actually a particularly earnest solve given Gyro is just scum for lurking and not explaining his vote..

[the worst]

Sorry. Need to work. I'm less sure doing this read through.

[JacksonVirgo]

@ducky
I'm just here to let you know that my mind wasn't in the game before a specific point, and after that point so take that in mind as you read through my ISO.

I mean I no longer need to do any more reads since I know who the last scum is but I read through your ISO once again during the night and it 'confirmed' to me that you're town aligned so I might as well just start a crossvote with Uncrowned right now. I also looked through Uncrowned's ISO and I have no idea how the shit they've been this good as their first game, like I am somewhat jealous lmao. You've got a tough choice, I hope you don't make the wrong one