Newbie 1964 [Game Over]

[BBmolla]

I don’t have a guilty or an innocent or anything I just think Billy is scum

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Bepwei

Feeling this instead more atm

[BBmolla]

Also Billy’s reaction was townish I think

[Karnage]

I'm good with a bepwei wagon

I don't think this comes from town

I am confused why they would choose arkias as their NK. Any idea?

VOTE: bepwei

[Billy Pilgrim]

I don’t have a guilty or an innocent or anything I just think Billy is scum

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Bepwei

Feeling this instead more atm

Care to case me? Also, if I'm scum, why are you whining my second preference from yesterday?

[Billy Pilgrim]

I'm inclined to believe Billy here but I'd like BB to elaborate on his vote

How do you feel about the elaboration from BB?

[Karnage]

I'm inclined to believe Billy here but I'd like BB to elaborate on his vote

How do you feel about the elaboration from BB?

Wasn't much of an elaboration

[Micc]

Can you guys sell me on bepwei?

[BBmolla]

I voted him same reason as Karnage

Old epic mafia tell is that only a doctor or mafia comments on the nightkill

[bepwei]

I voted him same reason as Karnage

Old epic mafia tell is that only a doctor or mafia comments on the nightkill

You've never had people comment on the NK? That is one of the tells of who could be mafia. The reason I posted that is because Arkias was one the more inactive people toward the end of the day. The only reason I can think of for lynching Arkias is he was very analytical, and was not under heat from the town. I am confident there was at least one scum on the LCpl/Gilded wagon. Of course, that does not clear my name, but some reasoning behind your vote, @BBMolla, would be nice. Karnage didn't really give reasoning either, but he was suspicious of me yesterday, so I expected his vote today.

[Micc]

I voted him same reason as Karnage

Old epic mafia tell is that only a doctor or mafia comments on the nightkill

I’m not sold. Why is Mafia more likely than doc here?

[Heavy Anaconda]

I gonna vote Micc again

[Heavy Anaconda]

Just make the third vote, Micc.
You know you want to

[Karnage]

Can you guys sell me on bepwei?

I'm going to make a hard right turn here. What do you think about BB as scum?

Looking back at his ISO I don't like his early sheeping on the jones vote. Then he makes a weird 180 at the end of the day on the jones/guilded slot. naked votes on billy and bep to start the day. the only reasoning he can give is "the same reason as karnage"

UNVOTE:

[bepwei]

VOTE: Billy

You checked me and you're claiming a guilty now? With your soft yesterday how the hell would I leave you alive today?

I don't really understand what soft means. Could someone explain what this post means in simpler terms for a newbie? thanks!

[Karnage]

VOTE: Billy

You checked me and you're claiming a guilty now? With your soft yesterday how the hell would I leave you alive today?

I don't really understand what soft means. Could someone explain what this post means in simpler terms for a newbie? thanks!

its a "soft claim" of being a PR

[BBmolla]

Can you guys sell me on bepwei?

I'm going to make a hard right turn here. What do you think about BB as scum?

Looking back at his ISO I don't like his early sheeping on the jones vote. Then he makes a weird 180 at the end of the day on the jones/guilded slot. naked votes on billy and bep to start the day. the only reasoning he can give is "the same reason as karnage"

UNVOTE:

If I gave my reasoning it would have just been quoting the post you did

What else am I supposed to do there

[Billy Pilgrim]

VOTE: Billy

You checked me and you're claiming a guilty now? With your soft yesterday how the hell would I leave you alive today?

I don't really understand what soft means. Could someone explain what this post means in simpler terms for a newbie? thanks!

326 at end of day he says I'll be checking out Billy tonight. That's what I meant by the soft pr claim. I mean theres only 2 ways this guy is alive right now given that there was a kill.

1) hes scum. I think this is unlikely, because I don't know why scum would fake claim there. I mean they mislynch town D1, and there wasnt a whole lot of information that came out of yesterday. I guess that the soft was vague, so it could be a cop, or a tracker, maybe even a weird way to soft JK (the way he said he didnt have an inno or a guilty may be the clarification here - either that or he could have been the JK target or roleblocked). So maybe this is vague enough that it can only be countered by that role or masons which can counter everything, in which case I guess they're trading 1 scum for a pr. The fact that they'd be willing to do that makes me think maybe we're in column c.

2) Scum missed it. Honestly that's the only reason I didnt talk about how much I hate being conf!town, because I would have drawn attention to it at the end of the day. Tends to make me more erratic less cautious in making reads and my reads arent great anyway. I'm only talked about it at the beginning of the day, because he softed it yesterday then naked voted me to start the day. So if he was using that as crumbling a result, I knew he was lying so it was an immediate scum claim.

Look, if I'm scum and that guy was town, hes not alive today. The only way that doesnt happen is if were in A1 and he can get roleblocked, then maybe theres a way to bring the soft back up to shade the fact that he didnt get a result and force a hard claim and maybe draw out the JK that way as well.

Arkias had voted me yesterday so in BBM voting me to start the day but with no explanation he could have been trying to get people to dead sheep Arkias' first vote.

I dont know, I feel like there may be scum in BBM. Not sure why Karnage didnt vote earlier though.

BBM - you gotta explain how you both think I'm scum but are comfortable going to my second preferred lynch when you left me.

VOTE: BBMolla

[Billy Pilgrim]

Can you guys sell me on bepwei?

I'm going to make a hard right turn here. What do you think about BB as scum?

Looking back at his ISO I don't like his early sheeping on the jones vote. Then he makes a weird 180 at the end of the day on the jones/guilded slot. naked votes on billy and bep to start the day. the only reasoning he can give is "the same reason as karnage"

UNVOTE:

You just laid out some thoughts, and honestly that seems stronger than the nk "tell." Btw, in real life mafia, I totally thought understanding the nk was important, and BEP asked to understand it rather than providing reasons. I've seen plenty of town players be the first to talk about a nk on this forum.

[Micc]

Can you guys sell me on bepwei?

I'm going to make a hard right turn here. What do you think about BB as scum?

I’m open to being convinced

[skitter30]

Vote Count 2.1

bepwei (1) ~

bbmolla

bbmolla (1) ~

billy pilgrim

not voting (5) ~

gyro zeppeli, bepwei, micc, heavy anacona, karnage

with 7 alive it's 4 to lynch

deadline:

(expired on 2019-11-23 23:00:00)

mod notes:

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[Micc]

Just make the third vote, Micc.
You know you want to

What are you trying to accomplish with this post?

[Micc]

Can you guys sell me on bepwei?

I'm going to make a hard right turn here. What do you think about BB as scum?

I’m open to being convinced

Actually this isn’t even the whole truth. I have a lot of reasons to be suspicious of Molla but I don’t know that pushing a wagon there is what I want to be doing right now as opposed to finding Town reads. I’d like to see your (Karnage) thoughts more fleshed out as a topic of interaction between us.

[BBmolla]

Let’s go bro fucking push it let’s do this

Follow the wave let’s go boys

[BBmolla]

The scumreads on me are GARBAGE and I’d love for that to become more obvious with a wagon on me

Also because at least one scum will be on that wagon

[BBmolla]

I voted him same reason as Karnage

Old epic mafia tell is that only a doctor or mafia comments on the nightkill

I’m not sold. Why is Mafia more likely than doc here?

100% of the setups have Mafia
Far less have docs