Open 769: Venrob's PYP X/Y (Town Wins)

[Wooper]

it's a fine take, just not very useful; i kinda need input on my reads, not driveby shading

[AaronFrost]

I picked whatever I thought would be most helpful to town/didn't want scum to have. UB is a good town utility which is why I wanted to try for that first.

[Wooper]

why not just vig, cop, doc, gunsmith, jailkeeper or tracker directly?

[AaronFrost]

Thought those roles were likely to have been taken by players above me. Plus if scum went for players who were high up on the draft list to try and get rid of strong TPRs, then I can take that role on.

[Wooper]

i would like to very strongly encourage massclaim :u

[Wooper]

flubz, then smart, then bottom up

[Wooper]

claims, submissions and results
happy to have a discussion if anyone strongly disagrees.

[Kerset]

How about you reveal the reason to do so?

[Wooper]

aorn my concern is that Aaron's claim is townposting but he feels like he's virtue signalling and coaching is absolutely not out of the question. it's either a townie claim or a claim which was engineered to look townie and i seriously don't think scum do this unless they've actually secured a more valuable power role higher up the chain. aaron is, if telling the truth, also now a full alignment cop which means a scum roleblocker will be parked on him if there is one. or he'll just be sorted via NK.

we're in 10p => 8p => 6p MyLo, there is enough time to softbreak this game via alignment cop existence

lack of scumkill ln and improbability of them shooting xayah tells me there's a clear or a guilty out there already

party time?

pedit: zing

[Wooper]

kerset any chance of shotgun reads from you right now? your headspace is hard to track.

[AaronFrost]

Doc/roleblocker should claim at the very least and out their target.

[Adorable]

Do you guys think some of the pr are scum? In the Open 732: Pick your Power X/Y two scum were pr.

[Kerset]

What is shotgun read?

[Wooper]

doc/rb shouldn't out their target yet, if we're massclaiming they should do it on their turn

hi adorbz. good chance of that this game.

[Wooper]

What is shotgun read?

just hit me with your reads

[Wooper]

{wooper}
{aaron} policy
{luca, sirf}
{skitter, kerset}
{suji, ss, adorbz}
{flubz}

if i work off this i'm ... a bit worried i don't really have solves involving town!aaron

i think massclaim increases the probability of the likeliness of aaron's claim and tells me if i'm solving on the right track or not

i feel ~opposed~ by sirf+kerset in a spiritual fashion rn, which tells me i'm either being pocketed by aaron/just epic failing to read him correctly/my treating aaron as town then entering massclaim is a take which other townies aren't reaching, OR 1-2 of them are scum - that's unsettling my solve.

a few TPRs should still be alive which is big gains

[Sirfetchd]

I feel like Aaron has done nothing to justify clearing.

[Wooper]

not clearing him at all dude. literally half way up the page i called him out for virtue signalling and feeling coached. i want to solve around him.

[Sirfetchd]

I dunno why kerset wanted your reasoning for massclaim. Tbh I am mildly scumreading people opposing it for no reason.

[Wooper]

can you weigh in w any thoughts on massclaim please?

pedit: yeet ok

[Wooper]

i'm kinda not comfortable with kerset shading everything i say and do without like . . . interacting with content
just noting for posterity, i think they've done townie things previously and i'm not feeling like reactive read rage, just kinda :U

[Sirfetchd]

That's in response to your options for why you aren't feeling supported.

You vca heavily indicated Aaron is likely scum.

[Sirfetchd]

Pro it. I was hoping people would all get in thread before it came up tho.

[Wooper]

kerset not s/s with aaron, let's put it that way. i think they want to see what people think.

pedit: i think my vca heavily implicates the front half of noms' wagon, but we can probably paint with broader strokes abt gamestate/scumteam level reads post-massclaim

also i may have misunderstood your 'opposition' and it makes sense if you just emphatically do not think that aaron is twon

[Wooper]

SORRY i got excited about the lack of scum kill