Mainstream Mafia II: D&D Edition [FIN]

[Korina]

Claiming survivor as town lets scum know you're important too.

[RCEnigma]

I don't think attacking FL today does much for town except waste time.

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, @Menalque - When I actually am scum, and people know I am scum, you still won’t be able to lynch me without going through multiple day phases of pretentious agony

[Korina]

At least with calling for protectives, if you die and someone later claims doctor, they get lynched unless they can reasonably explain why they weren't on you.

[Rautherdir]

Formerfish and I were duo queuing together, like that was blatantly obvious a kill to stop us from dominating the game

Wouldn't scum have just killed you instead if that was the case?

I mean, except Formerfish was definitely a gladiator... See, the problem with drawing associations through other possible night kills is that Formerfish was a good scum kill in terms of both role and how town-read he was. (Although that does probably mean scum didn't think they could pull off a lynch on Formerfish. Which I find somewhat interesting because all it takes is Formerfish making a bad gladiate and town deciding to not no-lynch.)
And then there's the other kill. Which we don't really know anything about because it was a bodyguard protect and Chemist didn't soft their target. Maybe it was a vig on someone Chemist townread. Maybe it's an SK. Maybe cult has a kill. Who knows.

[Flavor Leaf]

Claiming survivor as town lets scum know you're important too.

Yeah, but what happens if I claim it and not important? If scum night kill me, they have already lost.

Scum don’t want to ever night kill me. Scum are forced to night kill me, and they know that’s a personal loss for them if they ever have to choose to night kill me.

[Flavor Leaf]

Formerfish and I were duo queuing together, like that was blatantly obvious a kill to stop us from dominating the game

Wouldn't scum have just killed you instead if that was the case?

I mean, except Formerfish was definitely a gladiator... See, the problem with drawing associations through other possible night kills is that Formerfish was a good scum kill in terms of both role and how town-read he was. (Although that does probably mean scum didn't think they could pull off a lynch on Formerfish. Which I find somewhat interesting because all it takes is Formerfish making a bad gladiate and town deciding to not no-lynch.)
And then there's the other kill. Which we don't really know anything about because it was a bodyguard protect and Chemist didn't soft their target. Maybe it was a vig on someone Chemist townread. Maybe it's an SK. Maybe cult has a kill. Who knows.

Nah, I’m trolling still.

[Flavor Leaf]

FOS: Raus

Let me know if y’all see it

[Korina]

If you claim surv as town, and you're not important, you deserve to be killed imo.

[Flavor Leaf]

If you claim surv as town, and you're not important, you deserve to be killed imo.

Exactly!

It gets scum to waste a kill

[Flavor Leaf]

Now you’re getting it

[Menalque]

I think it’s pretty clear I’m town lying about being 3rd party. Would be like the third time this year

I mean yeah the fact that you’re lying about being 3p has been p obvious since the go but like you just vibe with me as being more generally scummy than towny this game

Plus idk I kinda feel like scum would have been more likely to push the 3rd party thing and it didn’t happen so that kinda makes me lean more scum on you too

[Flavor Leaf]

But here’s the thing, what if I am super important town, acting like I’m unimportant town, lying about being survivor?

Or what if I’m legit just a survivor.

[Menalque]

Also, @Menalque - When I actually am scum, and people know I am scum, you still won’t be able to lynch me without going through multiple day phases of pretentious agony

Well yeah so I’d rather get a head start on it rsther than doing it like D5 again or whatever

[Flavor Leaf]

I think it’s pretty clear I’m town lying about being 3rd party. Would be like the third time this year

I mean yeah the fact that you’re lying about being 3p has been p obvious since the go but like you just vibe with me as being more generally scummy than towny this game

Plus idk I kinda feel like scum would have been more likely to push the 3rd party thing and it didn’t happen so that kinda makes me lean more scum on you too

I don’t think I’ve lied about being 3rd party as scum before, actually. I might have.

Ive joked about it, but never did my commitment dance to it

[Korina]

But at the same time, imo, if you claim surv, you kinda deserve to die regardless.
Doesn't matter if you're claiming to side with whoever, as long as you live, you're still going against somebody.

pedit:
if you're important town acting like non-important town, lying about surv - you deserve death for claiming surv.
if you're actually surv, you deserve death for not claiming surv earlier.

[Menalque]

Does everyone know what the easiest answer to WIFOM is ?

Rope

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, @Menalque - When I actually am scum, and people know I am scum, you still won’t be able to lynch me without going through multiple day phases of pretentious agony

Well yeah so I’d rather get a head start on it rsther than doing it like D5 again or whatever

Well, if you start now, I’ll get killed Day 5.

You pushing me actually gives me more room to stay alive longer, ask RCEnigma how difficult it is.

This happened in a town game of mine recently, but it happens as scum too

[Menalque]

I think it’s pretty clear I’m town lying about being 3rd party. Would be like the third time this year

I mean yeah the fact that you’re lying about being 3p has been p obvious since the go but like you just vibe with me as being more generally scummy than towny this game

Plus idk I kinda feel like scum would have been more likely to push the 3rd party thing and it didn’t happen so that kinda makes me lean more scum on you too

I don’t think I’ve lied about being 3rd party as scum before, actually. I might have.

Ive joked about it, but never did my commitment dance to it

I mean you also hadn’t bussed before you broke your no bussing meta

[Flavor Leaf]

But at the same time, imo, if you claim surv, you kinda deserve to die regardless.
Doesn't matter if you're claiming to side with whoever, as long as you live, you're still going against somebody.

pedit:
if you're important town acting like non-important town, lying about surv - you deserve death for claiming surv.
if you're actually surv, you deserve death for not claiming surv earlier.

Why.

[RCEnigma]

I think it’s pretty clear I’m town lying about being 3rd party. Would be like the third time this year

I mean yeah the fact that you’re lying about being 3p has been p obvious since the go but like you just vibe with me as being more generally scummy than towny this game

Plus idk I kinda feel like scum would have been more likely to push the 3rd party thing and it didn’t happen so that kinda makes me lean more scum on you too

Why would scum push 3p day 1? That's a super scummy move. Also as soon as the words I'm 3p came out of FL I said shut the front door, cuz obviously not.

[Menalque]

Also, @Menalque - When I actually am scum, and people know I am scum, you still won’t be able to lynch me without going through multiple day phases of pretentious agony

Well yeah so I’d rather get a head start on it rsther than doing it like D5 again or whatever

Well, if you start now, I’ll get killed Day 5.

You pushing me actually gives me more room to stay alive longer, ask RCEnigma how difficult it is.

This happened in a town game of mine recently, but it happens as scum too

Well yes, that seems desirable to losing to scum you on D8 because we only started trying to lynch you on D5

[Flavor Leaf]

I think it’s pretty clear I’m town lying about being 3rd party. Would be like the third time this year

I mean yeah the fact that you’re lying about being 3p has been p obvious since the go but like you just vibe with me as being more generally scummy than towny this game

Plus idk I kinda feel like scum would have been more likely to push the 3rd party thing and it didn’t happen so that kinda makes me lean more scum on you too

I don’t think I’ve lied about being 3rd party as scum before, actually. I might have.

Ive joked about it, but never did my commitment dance to it

I mean you also hadn’t bussed before you broke your no bussing meta

No, I just told everyone I didn’t bus.

I was bussing constantly.

My first scum game on site, I claimed a tracker guilty on 2 separate buddies for the victory. (Not without permission)

[RCEnigma]

Also, @Menalque - When I actually am scum, and people know I am scum, you still won’t be able to lynch me without going through multiple day phases of pretentious agony

Well yeah so I’d rather get a head start on it rsther than doing it like D5 again or whatever

Well, if you start now, I’ll get killed Day 5.

You pushing me actually gives me more room to stay alive longer, ask RCEnigma how difficult it is.

This happened in a town game of mine recently, but it happens as scum too

Ever tried to barehand catch an eel blindfolded?

[Menalque]

Desirable, preferable, they’re both words