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Post Post #5350 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:37 pm

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If y’all think me trying to get the Governor shot was anything more than a publicity stunt that I could have the clout of having the trophy which is the power to have the Governor shot is anything more than that popularity contest of a play, then you cray.
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Post Post #5351 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:37 pm

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Thanks for finishing that sentence, RCE.

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@Korina:
Yeah. Pretty early on too, considering I saw it.

@FL:
See, I'm just going to keep you in my 3p bin and refuse to sort you until LYLO now.
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Post Post #5352 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:38 pm

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Rauth i feel like there’s a question of mine you never answered
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Post Post #5353 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:39 pm

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(Or maybe I saw the claim quoted in day 1. I can't see it in early game now that I look.)

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Which one? I kind of forgot everything I was doing due to FL being... himself.
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Post Post #5354 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:39 pm

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In post 5349, Menalque wrote:
In post 5346, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Raus - i didn’t call you scum, I said FOS.

I read the gamestate.

Just because I scum read them doesn’t mean I think they’re scum, duh. I try to figure out why I think they are scum, so a lot of early game for me is look into who was doing what, why am I scum reading said person, is someone trying to make sure I scum read this person? So i effectively can end up town reading someone specifically because I scum read them
This is why people get false positives on me

I sometimes wonder how I’d play if you hadn’t been an SE in my first newbie
Yeah, you gotta find your own style for it. I use charisma a lot.

But I highly advise looking into gamestate. You just need the clout of solving some games. I’ve been here going on 6 years now.

Imagine when the IC was still a thing in newbie games. I IC’d constantly.
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Post Post #5355 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:40 pm

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Why can’t we just come together and townblock?

Do you guys realize how hard I can ADC if I have an MVP squad slingshotting me?

I just need to post more with my squad
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Post Post #5356 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:40 pm

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In post 5262, Menalque wrote:Idk man, I don’t think scum would believe that FF was unlimited as a glad and I don’t think they’d freak out that hard about it
In post 5261, Menalque wrote:
In post 5256, Rautherdir wrote:The goal isn't to find who Formerfish was scumreading, The goal is to find people who could conceivably think Formerfish was scumreading them or a partner or who could begin to scumread them or a partner.
Why is this the best explanation of an FF kill?

This one
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Post Post #5357 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:41 pm

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I think Rauth is town, Menalque is lean town, but that could make him scum. But I’ll leave a lean town on them at this moment.

Korina, you lean scum af.
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Post Post #5358 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:41 pm

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In post 5355, Flavor Leaf wrote:Why can’t we just come together and townblock?

Do you guys realize how hard I can ADC if I have an MVP squad slingshotting me?

I just need to post more with my squad
What does ADC mean

Also last time we did that you were scum
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Post Post #5359 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:41 pm

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In post 5357, Flavor Leaf wrote:I think Rauth is town, Menalque is lean town, but that could make him scum. But I’ll leave a lean town on them at this moment.

Korina, you lean scum af.
This is based on the last few pages for me for my own benefit. Transparency is also key.
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Post Post #5360 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:41 pm

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In post 5348, Menalque wrote:
In post 5342, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 5338, Menalque wrote:I thought FL’s gov push was agenda-y in ways that neither mine nor vork’s were

I think that’s where I initially started feeling iffy about him
I'd agree with this, I don't think it's his scumplay though.
Okay I’m listening, why?
It Infringes on his wincon as scum. For one it makes him a cult target and town knows that as well. He sets himself up as a policy lynch that he can't really use to direct associatives since voting him is the pro town move anyways.

Do I think scum!FL would advocate himself for a governor shot because it's scum indicative? Sure. But not with cult as a threat as well, not if he has any importance in his scumteam, not if his role has utility for scum.
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Post Post #5361 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:42 pm

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In post 5354, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 5349, Menalque wrote:
In post 5346, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Raus - i didn’t call you scum, I said FOS.

I read the gamestate.

Just because I scum read them doesn’t mean I think they’re scum, duh. I try to figure out why I think they are scum, so a lot of early game for me is look into who was doing what, why am I scum reading said person, is someone trying to make sure I scum read this person? So i effectively can end up town reading someone specifically because I scum read them
This is why people get false positives on me

I sometimes wonder how I’d play if you hadn’t been an SE in my first newbie
Yeah, you gotta find your own style for it. I use charisma a lot.

But I highly advise looking into gamestate. You just need the clout of solving some games. I’ve been here going on 6 years now.

Imagine when the IC was still a thing in newbie games. I IC’d constantly.
I mean like half my reads nowadays are gamestate reads, you haven’t played with me in a while
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Post Post #5362 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:42 pm

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Also @FL why is rauth town?
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Post Post #5363 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:42 pm

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In post 5358, Menalque wrote:
In post 5355, Flavor Leaf wrote:Why can’t we just come together and townblock?

Do you guys realize how hard I can ADC if I have an MVP squad slingshotting me?

I just need to post more with my squad
What does ADC mean

Also last time we did that you were scum
We didn’t squad up, I pocketed you. There’s a difference.
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Post Post #5364 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:42 pm

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I mean, I feel like we would be townblocking, except for some unknown internal friction between you and Menal.

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Because I can't think of a better explanation?
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Post Post #5365 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:43 pm

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Do cult not die if they target scum?
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Post Post #5366 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:43 pm

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In post 5363, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 5358, Menalque wrote:
In post 5355, Flavor Leaf wrote:Why can’t we just come together and townblock?

Do you guys realize how hard I can ADC if I have an MVP squad slingshotting me?

I just need to post more with my squad
What does ADC mean

Also last time we did that you were scum
We didn’t squad up, I pocketed you. There’s a difference.
I mean I object to this framing seeing as I started the pocketing there
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Post Post #5367 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:44 pm

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The fact you were more susceptible to pretending to be pocketed because you were scum doesn’t count
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Post Post #5368 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:44 pm

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I read somewhere they do? Possibly?
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Post Post #5369 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:44 pm

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I saw that rising star

And Rauth is genuine about being scumread.

He’s scum read by gamestate, convenience, and personality, word choice, not by play.
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Post Post #5370 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:44 pm

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Fair point.
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Post Post #5371 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:45 pm

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In post 5368, RCEnigma wrote:I read somewhere they do? Possibly?
So does that not mean cult isn’t a threat to him?
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Post Post #5372 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:45 pm

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In post 5366, Menalque wrote:
In post 5363, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 5358, Menalque wrote:
In post 5355, Flavor Leaf wrote:Why can’t we just come together and townblock?

Do you guys realize how hard I can ADC if I have an MVP squad slingshotting me?

I just need to post more with my squad
What does ADC mean

Also last time we did that you were scum
We didn’t squad up, I pocketed you. There’s a difference.
I mean I object to this framing seeing as I started the pocketing there
So you jumped in my pocket on your own accord.

You say tomato, i say potato. Same word different pronunciation.
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Post Post #5373 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:45 pm

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I’m a threat to the cult and scum
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Post Post #5374 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:46 pm

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Ah, Korina. I'm personally fine with leaving him as the sole inhabitant of my Not Cult bucket for now. Mostly because I have no idea how to read Korina, and his current actions are probably only indicative of him... not being cult.

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... Yeah I'm not going to ask about what happened there. (I am going to guess you were on different teams and somehow 'pocketed' each other.)
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