Mini Normal 2107 (Game Over)

[Saladman27]

Yoink, VOTE: Plank, I guess today's gonna be as fast as yesterday.

[Elements]

We should no lynch due to the no kill,

Mathematically its optimal.

Or we could lynch the next scum...

[Elbirn]

Elbirn why did you unvote Looker so easily at Saudades request

Also well done almidia - you were sharp on that scum read of looker

Because I am a team player

I'm inclined to think almidia is beyond suspicion with how yesterday went

[Saudade]

We should no lynch due to the no kill,

Mathematically its optimal.

Or we could lynch the next scum...

Or we could play optimally and not be stupid

[profii]

Has anyone ever played a 11p game before

I’ve played 9 (2 scum)
And 13 (3 scum)

I don’t recall playing 11p recently so not sure if this is 2/3 scum

[Elbirn]

Has anyone ever played a 11p game before

I’ve played 9 (2 scum)
And 13 (3 scum)

I don’t recall playing 11p recently so not sure if this is 2/3 scum

I was wondering the same myself earlier, I've been thinking that 3 scum vs. 8 town is too high a ratio, doesn't give town much breathing room. Like imagine that being the setup and town mislynching/scum killing every cycle: day 3 would be 7p mylo with 3 scum, 4 town, and 4 votes necessary to lynch.

[profii]

In 2v7, day 3 can be 2v3 LyLo and that’s “normal” though
I am continually proven to be bad at setup spec

[alimdia]

Anyone that speedhammers today must hang tomorrow.

Also no lynching is dumb. I'm pretty sure scum shot at me last night as confirmed town.

<3 protective role

[alimdia]

Mathematically its optimal.

Not when there's basically almost confirmed town...

[profii]

Elbirn why did you unvote Looker so easily at Saudades request

Also well done almidia - you were sharp on that scum read of looker

Because I am a team player

I'm inclined to think almidia is beyond suspicion with how yesterday went

I pretty certain about Almidia as well

But I don’t buy the team player reason - you remove your vote at request of Saudade who, at the time wasn’t exactly summoning the masses to vote with him as the Wake wagon had been and gone.
2 posts later you were asking him to explain his logic so I can’t rationalise your position where you are following a player you don’t understand and calling it team play

Also - there are a couple of examples of you specifically not rejoining the wagon - as reluctant as Looker was to claim, there was a lot of pressure on him to do it. A lot of pressure = what the team want, but you think team play is not helping that effort

VOTE: Elbirn

[profii]

Anyone that speedhammers today must hang tomorrow.

Also no lynching is dumb. I'm pretty sure scum shot at me last night as confirmed town.

<3 protective role

Well I wasn’t going to say it but yes I would imagine you are right. I was trying to predict the night kill last night and I thought it would be you but I’m glad to see you alive and well

[Elbirn]

Ali just because you're beyond suspicion and never getting lynched doesn't make you "confirmed town", hush.

Speculating over protective roles also isn't my thing, let's just find scum

I prefer Saudade over Plank, letsgo

[Elbirn]

Elbirn why did you unvote Looker so easily at Saudades request

Also well done almidia - you were sharp on that scum read of looker

Because I am a team player

I'm inclined to think almidia is beyond suspicion with how yesterday went

I pretty certain about Almidia as well

But I don’t buy the team player reason - you remove your vote at request of Saudade who, at the time wasn’t exactly summoning the masses to vote with him as the Wake wagon had been and gone.
2 posts later you were asking him to explain his logic so I can’t rationalise your position where you are following a player you don’t understand and calling it team play

Also - there are a couple of examples of you specifically not rejoining the wagon - as reluctant as Looker was to claim, there was a lot of pressure on him to do it. A lot of pressure = what the team want, but you think team play is not helping that effort

VOTE: Elbirn

Profi you're adorable dont make me yell at you

[Elbirn]

Let me give you an actual answer:

Saudade asked me to unvote so looker wasnt at L-1. I considered this to be reasonable. That's all there is to that.

As for not rejoining the wagon you should find that I am always wary of the day 1 "low charisma" mislynch. This game is a popularity contest, especially day 1. If you read my back and forth with Looker I tried to give him every opportunity to talk his way out of his lynch because I thought yall were whipped up into that mob mentality fervor over someone who wasn't doing a good job of being liked.

I wanted an opportunity to read someone under pressure. You all wanted a flip. *Big shrugs*

[Elbirn]

Anyone that speedhammers today must hang tomorrow.

Also no lynching is dumb. I'm pretty sure scum shot at me last night as confirmed town.

<3 protective role

Well I wasn’t going to say it but yes I would imagine you are right. I was trying to predict the night kill last night and I thought it would be you but I’m glad to see you alive and well

This also should not have been outed, please everyone stop claiming when it isn't needed

[alimdia]

I have some of my thoughts down regarding everyone on the Looker wagon, and everyone on the alternative wagon on the time Looker was lynched.

Before I post them though, I'd like to wait for everyone to post their own thoughts so people can't just conveniently sheep me
On day 1 I accepted some people following me because the looker wagon was very hard to get going and if I was attacking people that jumped on the wagon it'd definitely go nowhere.
However, its day 2 now, with a scum flip, so I expect everyone to have some thoughts.

Finally, I believe the setup is 3v8, which causes 2 mislynches and 2 nightkills to go into LYLO (3v4)
Similarly, newbie games are 2v7, which cause 2 mislynches and 2 nightkills to go into LYLO (2v3)

@Elbirn I haven't outed anyone or claimed anything? But there are only 2 reasons why there would be no night kill last night, and I choose to believe one of them over the other. But yes, don't claim

[alimdia]

Specifically Saudade, you said if wake is scum then so is Looker.

In that case, what about the other way around?

[Elbirn]

@Ali I wasnt blaming you, it was profi, he simply shouldnt have claimed just now.

I need to read again and do this all proper like but my immediate preliminary thoughts are saudade = scum harping on wake all day over engaging the looker wagon, Plank also looks bad but im worried they're the wrong for the right reasons type I detailed earlier. The whole being wrong =/= scum rant I did before, you know the one. I'll get back to ya

[alimdia]

I don't think profi claimed?

He was just agreeing that I was the most likely NK candidate.

[Wake1]

I Townread Alimdia, and am still reading Elbirn/Wimpy's slot as Town.

Profii wouldn't vote for Looker. Zote I'm not sure about. Salad could be Scum for hammering at the last minute to lower suspicion.

I can't tell if Saudade is Scum or not. He wouldn't go after Looker and was bent on lynching me instead. Looking at Vorkuta too.

[Wake1]

I'm going to assume there's 3 Scum.

[Wake1]

Anyone that speedhammers today must hang tomorrow.

Also no lynching is dumb. I'm pretty sure scum shot at me last night as confirmed town.

<3 protective role

Well I wasn’t going to say it but yes I would imagine you are right. I was trying to predict the night kill last night and I thought it would be you but I’m glad to see you alive and well

This also should not have been outed, please everyone stop claiming when it isn't needed

What are you saying has been outed, Elbirn?

[Wake1]

I'm also going to go out on a limb and say that it was unwise for Scum to leave me alive.

Day 2 is when I actually start playing the game, and can do some real damage to Scum.

[Wake1]

I don't think Scum would deliberately not try to kill anyone last Night.

Only claim if it'd out Scum. Otherwise say nothing please.

[alimdia]

Mathematically its optimal.

Not when there's basically almost confirmed town...

Finally, if another night kill is prevented, then that means an extra lynch.
So....
Mathematically it's only optimal to no-lynch at MYLO with

0 confirmed town

Neither of which is true.