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Post Post #1975 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:09 pm

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In post 1973, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1971, popsofctown wrote:i changed my mind on wicked because it makes no sense to TR me right now and it made no reason to scumcase Menalque at the timing he did

Also none of his posts actually suck besides the first few and I think we're all confbiased

he sounds like he's sorting the game in later posts
logical conclusion

that you arrived to after taking heat for scumreading wicked
I CAN'T TAKE HEAT FOR EVERYTHING MY BODY IS ALREADY FULLY ENGULFED IN FLAMES
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1976 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:10 pm

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In post 1974, popsofctown wrote:middle paragraph of that post

also iconeum was on wicked wagon and I don't see it as a bus
why was it possible at daystart but not now?
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Post Post #1977 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:11 pm

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Oh, I had completely misunderstood the middle paragraphs the first time I read it, my bad

Pedit: but yeah what icon asked?

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Post Post #1978 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:15 pm

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I didn't think about associatives at all until Iconeum used the word "team", I am not a player naturally inclined towards pre-flip associatives
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #1979 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:22 pm

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In post 1978, popsofctown wrote:I didn't think about associatives at all
In post 1841, popsofctown wrote:ftr it's hard to want to put effort into casing iconeum over jester when I think that might be the team exactly
your iso disagrees with you
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Post Post #1980 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:24 pm

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I had a delayed realization that FMPOV, preflip associatives are identical to postflip associatives. Because like, if I'm lynched today, and people deadsheep an Iconeum lynch tomorrow, I "know" he flips scum because if he doesn't nothing else matters, therefore it makes sense to think about my stance on a partner and state it some time before I'm hammered today (in this game). In almost any other game I would just bitch at people about preflip associatives being a waste of time and a cell culture for confirmation biases. I am usually lynched day 1 or not at all in most of my games, last time I was lynched in a middle day it was LyLo -2 iirc

pedit:
I said "iconeum used the word team"
I didn't say "anybody used the word team"
there's a natural implication "you should be thinking about associatives" if someone asks "why do you think I'm scum with X" since they are skipping the usually preclusive independent question of their own alignment to go to the more complex question
idk how else to explain it
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Post Post #1981 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:28 pm

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oh dear god i am ever more comfused than what i was before.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #1982 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:31 pm

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The way Iconeum approached me with the question was in and of itself very invert associative to jester, to me

But that one I can't articulate (as though I've been articulate lately) it's a gutty thing about Iconeum bringing a partner up in that way at that time
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
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Post Post #1983 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:31 pm

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Datisi who is your biggest scumread besides me right now?
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #1984 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:34 pm

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Okay, but did you ever say why you thought they could be the team before?

And I guess Wicked?
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Post Post #1985 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:35 pm

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I independently scumread those muchly at a past point in time, therefore they could be the scumteam, that was why I thought that.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #1986 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:37 pm

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wicked is town we need to talk about this more
I have changed my tune
he has a kirby avatar
he is trying to pocket a player on the verge of death which is absurd
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #1987 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:38 pm

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What %age are you sure we gotta lynch Icon tomorrow?
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #1988 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:38 pm

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Can you at least promise me to try to kill Wicked's partner first?
Maybe you make it to 5p lylo for wicked mislynch
but like never to 3p lylo
so that would work
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Post Post #1989 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:39 pm

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In post 1988, popsofctown wrote:Can you at least promise me to try to kill Wicked's partner first?
Maybe you make it to 5p lylo for wicked mislynch
but like never to 3p lylo
so that would work
I thought Wicked was Town?
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Post Post #1990 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:40 pm

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i dislike using percentages i think players are not as accurate at rating their own confidence/accuracy levels as they are at making comparisons "A is scummier than B"

I feel really really strongly about Icon though

Even if I wasn't hard scumreading Icon I would be townreading too many people for their to be room anyway, actually
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Post Post #1991 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:41 pm

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You used percentages on Mena.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #1992 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:42 pm

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yeah town datisi goes to 5p LyLo and says "we mislynched pops but pops is an idiot but I still think wicked is town" and then she goes "oh wait I promised her that even when I decide that I would try to lynch his partner to honor her memory. Uh, I'll go alimdia" Plum: "yay alimdia is scum! Datisi has been killed in the night" Datisi in the scum PT: omg wicked is scum if they don't lynch him its a throw. town: "we lynch iconeum" Plum: iconeum is scum
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Post Post #1993 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:45 pm

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In post 1991, Datisi wrote:You used percentages on Mena.
You misremember. I may have quoted his own descriptions of his certainty my slot is scum. Also in twilight I asked him for the %age sure he was that I'm scum because I know that's the language he speaks, even if I don't speak it. I can't find a percentage in my iso.

If it was I'm sure it was a low one, I'll sometimes toss out something like "55%" to convey an idea but I don't like trying to quantify an 80% hardread vs. a 90% hardead because one is twice the level of the other but I don't think townies can know their own reads that well
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Post Post #1994 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:46 pm

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pops you said before you liked my push on menal, but that you detract town points on my slot 'because i wasn't hunting in pairs'

and now you say you don't wanna focus on pairs because you dislike preflip asso

double standards much?
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Post Post #1995 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:47 pm

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ok I figured out how to apply the % symbol to my iso using ctrl f, I definitely never did a percentage ever

I think you're misremembering the twilight thing

that was purely to create a postgame funzies because I was/am pretty sure I'm going to get lynched today and Menalque seemed very, very sure
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Post Post #1996 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:49 pm

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Ok i have genuinely no idea what means

So I'm gonma come back to this a bit later
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Post Post #1997 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:49 pm

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In post 1994, Iconeum wrote:pops you said before you liked my push on menal, but that you detract town points on my slot 'because i wasn't hunting in pairs'

and now you say you don't wanna focus on pairs because you dislike preflip asso

double standards much?
this is what I found searching "pairs" in my iso
Iconeum's theory has some appeal to me, even though I have to dock it X amount of points in the sense that individual slot scumhunting is far easier than getting pairs.
This post is saying that individual scumhunting is superior to pair scumhunting.
So your theory automatically loses X points for that reason.
The post didn't attack you personally.
I'm not sure if you turned this post upside down or are referencing a different post that dodged my search term
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Post Post #1998 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:50 pm

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In post 1996, Datisi wrote:Ok i have genuinely no idea what means

So I'm gonma come back to this a bit later
it was just a meme, just forget about it

wicked is town

p sure there's no scumslip angle against me for a hypothetical where I'm already dead and I want you to lynch wicked's partner so I don't care if you follow
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Post Post #1999 (ISO) » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:51 pm

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pops seriously

you attempted to discredit me by saying i was town prev game, so i must be scum here. That was incorrect.
then you said you thought it was weird how i didn't help mislynch chennisden that game
while after that you said you saw a lot of similarities between my 'bad faith' push on chennisden that game vs this game

then you said my push this game was good but 'holding back because you didn't hunt for pairs'
while you are now saying hunting for pairs pre flip is bad

and you expect any of this to stick?
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