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[profii]

the way I'm looking at Zote is like this:

If I follow his ISO and ctrl + F looker - his narrative kinda matches mine for so long - I didnt really "get" the looker case, I could kinda see it but Alimdia's confidence was kind of a red flag to me - however, as we get to the later parts of our ISOs, we go on different paths - Looker continually posted in an elusive fashion, not willing to really answer questions or engage in the tradition of claiming etc which bugged me. When the wagon started to dip off I felt that we hadn't exerted enough pressure on Looker so that was when and why I was happy to bring the wagon back into focus.

At a similar time, Zote just stops commenting in any major way on Looker


I'd probably say looking at it with a relative view and comparing to Vortuka, I'd probably say Vortuka was simply focussed on his own read of Wake and Zote was trying to discredit a Looker wagon but in a subtle way

VOTE: Zote

[profii]

The idea that i would try and protect my partner like this is laughable

The reason I asked was because I've seen you play like this before - if I hadn't I'd probably say 'no one is going to get over the idea you were trying to balls out protect Looker so better remove this untrustable slot now or never'

You saw me protect my partner like this before?

no the opposite you dope.

I've seen you play as town and just be like "lynch X guys" "come just lynch him" "guys guys come on just lynch"

just like insistent without really putting any meat on the bone... can't remember if you were right or wrong, I dont think it matters.

[Saudade]

Post the game right now profii or i award you with my glorious vote

Do me this prof

[Saudade]

The idea that i would try and protect my partner like this is laughable

The reason I asked was because I've seen you play like this before - if I hadn't I'd probably say 'no one is going to get over the idea you were trying to balls out protect Looker so better remove this untrustable slot now or never'

You saw me protect my partner like this before?

no the opposite you dope.

I've seen you play as town and just be like "lynch X guys" "come just lynch him" "guys guys come on just lynch"

just like insistent without really putting any meat on the bone... can't remember if you were right or wrong, I dont think it matters.

Oh okay thats more genuine

[Saudade]

Honestly i dont like Eibirn more than I dont like UltimatePlank

[Saudade]

But Eib was wimpy who had a strong townrepout uhhh

[profii]

if you look at how UP came to vote on Looker i think he looks town. He was quite involved in making sure we expressed intent and trying to get a claim out of Looker. If they were scum together, you'd have thought Looker would have known that was coming and had a claim to give us

[Saudade]

Yeah I know which is why Eibirn pings me

[Saudade]

Vorkuta disappearing also pings me

[Saudade]

I have no opinion about saladman, who is that

[profii]

There are quite a few posts where Zote is anti Looker wagon, as can be reviewed here:

Spoiler: Zote

Can someone TL;DR key points the wagon on looker?
I've caught up but I still don't get it

You have a reason for not wanting Looker to be pressured?

You have a reason to pressure him, cur? I don't really see the case against Looker either.

The only thing in Looker's ISO I dislike right now is his vote on Elements.

I just got back from slaying many great beasts in the caverns of Hallownest. They could not stand the wrath of Zote the Mighty and his appropriately named weapon, 'Life Ender.' I've heard tales of an arena where great warriors gather to fight. Perhaps I may discover this arena some day.

In the meantime, I will review the Looker case.

That's basically what I'm feeling at the moment, for what it's worth.

I really, REALLY hate Day 1 because I've got nothing tangible to work with.

I've got both profii and Zote getting fussy over putting pressure on Looker, and I'm not so sure how to read that so early in the game.

Go ahead and read Zote's ISO. Theres a shitload of posts, but he's probably said the same amount of non-fluff as you.

That's not even my post cur! This feels like an intentional misquote

VOTE: Saladman I'm interested in pushing this. Ultimate Plank is another wagon I could get on board with as well.

literally only things Zote has talked about Salad so far:

I've seen town!salad be really inconsistent that way as well.

Oh please don't tell me saladman is mislynch bait I hate when I'm not allowed to push on people doing bad things because they always do bad things HaHa lol so randumb

From the rumblings I've heard deep in the depths of Hallownest, where I just slayed a great 30 foot long beast, Salad is known for being what one would call 'lynchbaity.'

In short, I can't stand Day 1. Least favorite part of the game. We have literally nothing to work with.

I don't mind hammering at L-1, but I will relax on it being a quickhammer, because we'd need a claim.

If something interesting happens during Day 1 then I'll pick at it, but I'm not interested in being paranoid-psycho on everything Day 1 like others can and do. It's a waste of my time. As bodies hit the floor I can actually start parsing out who is who.

Boycotting Day 1 entirely isn't the way to go about it though cur. There's plenty of information to be gained from wagons such as who supported it, who was against it, who hopped on etc. In particular I did not care for Saladman's hop on, especially with his intent to put you at L-1. It felt overly cautious .

Basically only case is 'overly cautious L1'ing wake'

Same with him wanting to wagon UltimatePlank, the only times he mentions ultimate are 'why do you townread alimdia' and 'why you pressure Looker'

LOL!

Do you not agree that Salad was being a bit too cautious when announcing intent to put Wake at L-1?

As for Plank, some of his reactions have been pinging me. In particular I did not like his hop on the Looker wagon. 408 is a sketchy post as well and it feels like a jump reaction to someone questioning the Looker wagon. Sort of like a 'why would you not vote for this person?' kind of reaction.

Do you expect me to have full cases on people when we're still early in Day 1 and little has been established? I find it troubling that you are so confident in your reads.

So basically the case against Looker is his lack of contribution or substance in his posts. Is that not very similar to the case that was against Wake in the beginning? I find it odd that the players in support of the Looker wagon were the same people who were against the Wake wagon are in support of the Looker wagon despite the similar reasoning.

I am starting to see the case against Looker, but I'm not 100% confident that they'll flip scum. I still find it unsettling how confident alimdia is in his read and if Looker is lynched and does flip green, that's one suspect for tomorrow.

Also don't care for Elements's or Plank's votes on Looker either.

I am starting to see the case against Looker, but I'm not 100% confident that they'll flip scum. I still find it unsettling how confident alimdia is in his read and if Looker is lynched and does flip green, that's one suspect for tomorrow.

Also don't care for Elements's or Plank's votes on Looker either.

Do you really think that if looker flips green that makes alimdia scummy ?

I mean the guys signature says 100% town win rate and it looks like he completed 1 game - he is just super cock sure

Potentially, mostly because I don't find the case against Looker very compelling.

I'd look into Plank and Elements too upon a town!Looker flip.

Sorry I've been gone a while. I found a great beast in the depths of Hallownest and slayed it with my weapon, 'Life Ender!' I will catch up soon.

thoughts on wagons?

I am opposed to the Looker wagon. I think he is going to flip town.

VOTE: Ultimate Plank I still don't like this slot.

man idk anymore but wake wagon is not better than looker wagon

gonna need more than "wakemanbad"

what OTHER wagon do you want saudade

honestly id vote saudade over wake at this juncture

Fool! Have you even given justification for why you're on the Looker wagon? Based on your ISO it feels to me like you find Elements much more suspicious. Would your vote not be better placed there?

[profii]

I have no opinion about saladman, who is that

his country is on fire rn

[profii]

Yeah I know which is why Eibirn pings me

Vorkuta disappearing also pings me

The tricky thing is we know there is only 1 other scum now

[Saudade]

You think theres only two scum?

[Saudade]

Like.. one now..

[Saudade]

It would make sense if last scum is the flame guy who just burns everyone after x turns

[Saudade]

Otherwise its a bit imbalanced...

[Saudade]

Well i guess we shouldnt nl now

[profii]

Due to an unintentional reveal, this is setup information is being given to all players. This was the only information revealed.

25. Mafia have daytalk and

2 members

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[profii]

Otherwise its a bit imbalanced...

I would assume the other is probably multi tasking as well.

[Saudade]

Due to an unintentional reveal, this is setup information is being given to all players. This was the only information revealed.

25. Mafia have daytalk and

2 members

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Oops

[Saudade]

Yeah its the flame guy i bet

[Saudade]

Thats why theres no kill hes gonna torch us all

[Wake1]

It's either Saudade, Profii, Salad, or Zote.

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Let's kill them all.

[Saudade]

Ill poo on your forehead