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[Sirfetchd]

maybe, if he thinks he got the best role?

[skitter30]

yeah actually i can see that

what is investigate for a joat anyways? is it a cop-shot?

[skitter30]

ok time to do a little analysis of the setup

roles

: (the ones crossed out are the ones we know are in play)

Night 2 Vigilante OR Vengeful

- wooper, n2 vig

Perfectionist Vigilante OR 1-shot PGO

- flub, pgo

Sane Cop OR 2-shot Redirector

~ rb, cop

Conditional-Commuter OR 1-shot Watcher

~ unknown
Doctor OR Roleblocker -

Universal Backup w/ 1-shot override OR Role Cop

~ aaron, pgo

Neighborizer OR Gunsmith

~ me

Jailkeeper OR Tracker

~ you
1-shot Governor OR 5-ability JOAT

for the n2 nk to go missing, either:
- doc on ss (ss not doc)
- joat on ss (ss not joat)
- joat rb'd me
- rb rb'd me
- ss is commuter
- ss is joat and commuted

players

:
Flubbernugget ~ 1s pgo
rb ~ sane cop, dead
Sirfetchd ~ jk
Something_Smart ~ powered, unknown
AaronFrost ~ backup cop
Xayah ~ vt, dead
skitter30 ~ neighborizer
Kerset
PMysterious
wooper ~ n2 vig
Sujimichi
Luca Blight ~ vt
nomnomnom ~ dead
Billy Pilgrim ~ goon, dead

[skitter30]

Ok i guess i'm a gunsmith now

So who did i target.

I'm thinking aaron n1 (returned inno, why i wasnt interested in him yesterday)
And flub last night

That would take aaron out of the lynch pool tho

[skitter30]

Maybe xayah n1

[Sirfetchd]

How strong do you think we can get flub lynched today?

Bc you might be able to claim vt and get Suji lynched tomorrow and just line up the misslynches. Like we say Sujimichi is claiming vt bc they have been doing the kills? Depends what others pick, but it's potentially a strong play to just dictate the entire game.

[Sirfetchd]

Is scum not multitasking common knowledge?

[Sirfetchd]

The numbers 'just' make it rough to do that.

Currently 8-2.

[Sirfetchd]

You'd need another VT.

[skitter30]

Not sure i'm following ur plan?
Public knowledge that scum are multitasking
Flub is very likely today's lynch, barring ss guiltying me or something

[Sirfetchd]

Ok so my idea is, Suji is currently the only Neighbour claimant. If you just claim VT with some different submissions we may be able to swing that Suji is doing a shitty fake claim to explain no actions bc he been killing. Basically accuse Suji of doing exactly what we're doing. Issue is that it would need to not lead back to you and there to still be confusion after he DOES flip VT. So if you can pin it on like Kerset or Adorable instead then that'd be sick.

We get town on a wild goose chase to find the Neighbour/Gunsmith slot.

It would be tough play, BUT, it would also potentially just mechanically secure us to get to Lylo.

[skitter30]

Hmmmmm ok
I need to think about this for a bit

[Sirfetchd]

It's defs a risky play. And it would all be on you to be a convincing VT. But thought I'd throw it out in case you saw merit in it.

[Sirfetchd]

We have a live Commuter/Watcher slot. Just keep an eye on that. That's another thing we have to worry about potentially. But it should work out in the wash.

Would be really weird if No-one has JOAT.

[skitter30]

So you're saying i should claim some other pick altogether? And that the real gunsmith would be below me ?

I think that creates a lynch pool of me/suji/kerset/adorable, and i'd need to be the last lynched out of all of those

And if i flip the remainder become perceived as town

[Sirfetchd]

Yeah, p much. Risky but could just outright win the game.

[skitter30]

In a vaccuum i'm prob the last lynched of those 4, but we need exactlu all of them to go first if flub isnt lynched today

I'm willing to try, and i think there's a decent-ish chance i can do it, but no promises, it might just all go very south

I can turn on the cocky 'do you really think i'm dumb enough to claim something that will directly implicate me' bit and it'll carry for a day or two, i think

Or i just get insta-lynched :shrug:

Or ss guilties me

Idk i'm willing to do it id you want me to with the understanding that i'm not confident i can carry thru lylo but that i'll do my best

And people above me will be implcated when i flip because they'll figure out i've been doing the nks

[Sirfetchd]

Only do what you're comfortable with.

I think we're in a weird position where there is going to be immediate issues with claims that don't have proven actions due to the death. So VT claims and claims that are unconfirmed are under scrutiny immediately. Which is actually somewhat annoying for me bc I have had zero game impact at night so far.

Either way you are likely to be in the discussion.

[Sirfetchd]

You are right about the issues with you flipping with no hood. Hadn't thought of that. Yeah we have to keep you alive. The only other kill we have to worry about is JOAT.

[Sirfetchd]

I actually think best case scenario right now is that SS is not a JOAT. If that is true, we, as a whole should be fine.

[skitter30]

idk i can do either

claiming vt is a hard commit that puts me in the lynch pool, but like last
gunsmith is riskier wrt night actions. it would prob be aaron n1 and flub n2

either way

[Sirfetchd]

Your ability to claim an action you didn't do depends on what people claim.

[Sirfetchd]

Like one of my biggest worries right now is that SS was watched and docced.

[skitter30]

yep, let's see what adorable and kerset claim

of course if ss is a watcher and saw me last night i'm in trouble either way so :shrug:

pedit that's almost impossible

[skitter30]

wait a second so far doc is free

something just occured to me