Micro 900: Autumnal Mafia (Game Complete)

[popsofctown]

it looks like I noted
inside the post I noticed that my own reasoning wasn't matching my reads perfectly, then I change my position to "5th at least"
which theoretically ranges as high as 1st

That happened in real time
Why is it scum indicative? Does town!pops have her ranking set in stone and scum!pops doesn't, and empslessly so?
I'm not even sure you're genuinely concerned, I think you're taking potshots that sound like scumhunting.

I'm sorry, I don't buy this real time shit. IT takes 0 effort to just copy and paste Wicked's section up to 3rd or something. Also... arguing on a technicality? Come on..

I assumed I said "datisi is town but I wish she'd revert her avatar" or something equally silly. But now I look back and I didn't shade her at all,
so what the heck are you talking about? I wish she'd read my slot correctly this game, I might have voiced some kind of frustration for that at some point(?)
but mafia's a hard game, it wouldn't be shade, just, aww shucks.

Re: Throwing shade on Datisi:
"she has to mislynch - multiple- slots to burn her town equity"
"if she is somehow scum, shake her hand..........................."

You also do that with Luca, and say if he's scum he's powerwolfing. Same with emps... when he hasn't power'ed anything...

Yeah I'm not 100% sure who the scumteam is.
You just really clearly think differently about mafia or something. I think about the chance I'm wrong.
Maybe you're used to playing with really arrogant people? I know there's a lot of that sometimes.

quickhammering was a game action that I felt improved my chance to win. I'm not convinced it was wrong to do. There is a hidden tracker in the game, tracker can be pretty powerful. There's a good chance the quickhammer didn't get me lynched, or I would have been lynched anyway, either one negates that cost. There's a good chance Menalque would have lynched before game outcome anyway. I am sorry if it made you feel bad. I tried to dress it up as best I could to make it less frustrating but I have to play to win

Calling me "cute" isn't a game action. Maybe it kind of is, if you are trying to bait some kind of reaction to read me. I get the feeling you're just messing with me for the sake of it, so in that case it isn't. In which case please stop.

You didn't know there was a tracker before you hammered.
A tracker is pretty shet when theres more than 1 scum.

Overall, the first part of the post doesn't make sense. If you are town, I don't see how quickhammering improved your chance to win, unless you're scum.

I knew there was town power roles because I saw who reviewed the setup. It doesn't matter which one it is.
You're speaking about it as if I was sure Menalque would flip town, which is assuming the conclusion.

Either way, I was already have doubts over your slot and I'm not sure I can see past your lynch right now.

Words out of my mouth

Finally, gaslighting is a very serious accusation.

I don't mean the highly negative terms gaslighting carries in colloquial use, but I'm not aware of an equivalent term without the baggage that means "misrepresenting information I have access to, to convince me I don't have it." Mafia is a social deduction game that is cutthroat in some ways to the point that the available words and metaphors get pretty ugly. "bus", "lynch", "WIFOM" (references a murder. The film is lighthearted, but still?) etc. "gaslighting" in the sense I'm using it would be a sportsmanlike to win as scum I definitely don't mean to oog shade Iconeum for it he's one of my favorite players

[popsofctown]

(

i assume as of writing this notepad she is alive

to ensure my mislynch, prolly luca died or maybe humorous third option)

Why did you write this part? Or, what made you believe so?

The only reactions to my lolhammer were Menalque's pure rage, your pure rage, and Luca's disdain which seemed redeemable. That's a good indicator my lynch is probably very viable since the way a few townies react is a good predictor of how other townies will react, but all other slots didn't chip in and were all wildcards, several of them could have recognized I wouldn't risk my own neck to lolhammer as scum, perhaps enough of them for me to survive this day phase. So I knew you'd survive today to participate in my mislynch, killing a widely townread player is less important, especially since they can just kill you tonight after you're done participating in the ML.

Basically nightkilling you would be about half as dumb as nightkilling me, which is a lot of dumb.

I assumed I said "datisi is town but

I wish she'd revert her avatar

" or something equally silly.

Do you not like my new avatar? [/quote]
I like your new avatar I just liked your previous avatar even more.

[Datisi]

I like your new avatar I just liked your previous avatar even more.

I can't believe I'm getting bullied for my avatar again

Aight. I'd still like some time to think about this. And give a chance to (read: force) emps and Wicked to provide some content this Day.

[popsofctown]

you wear designer shades just to hide your face and you wear em around like youre cooler than me and you never say her or remember my name and it's probably cause you think youre cooler than me

[popsofctown]

oh no I typo'd the song and somehow it's become a pronouning thing

[Datisi]

i have called you he with only once and it was with permission how dare you

[Wickedestjr]

Hey all,

I'm home early today and will try to make sense of this madness. I'm caught up on everything that's happened today, but still want to do some rereading.

And I'm not sure if Pandora is town but if she is then I definitely don't want to let her down.

[popsofctown]

@Plum

: can you confirm that Pandora and I share alignment?

[Wickedestjr]

Could one person please un-vote pops? I'm not necessarily opposed to her lynch today but I would like if we could take our time with this decision. We still have like four days left. I'm not yet sold on her wagon and even if she is scum, I would like some time to figure out who her hypothetical partner could be before we lynch her.

@Pops:

Some of your recent stuff is making me feel a little better about you. The problem is that I don't have any other strong SR's, and information-wise your lynch makes the most sense today.

I realize that 'information' isn't the only reason for your pops-vote, but I feel like that's a bad reason. We're already too far in the game to be information-lynching. If we get it wrong today, we're in LyLo/MyLo tomorrow. And we have an 80+ page thread and a few days left to discuss, so why not try to feel more confident in your decision today?

[Wickedestjr]

To be honest, even though I'm requesting an un-vote, I very well may end up joining this bandwagon...

@pops-

I've been rereading some and there are a few things that don't quite make sense to me.

1. You have shown that you actually do have a preference for lynching VT claims on day 1. However, that doesn't explain why you chose to quick-hammer. The benefit of hammering Menalque was that it prevented other people from claiming and limited scum's knowledge about PRs going into night 1. But I've been thinking about this and the downside appears to be much worse if you're town. You didn't appear to strongly suspect Menalque and, if you're town, you also risk your own subsequent mis-lynch by quick-hammering him. So essentially you risk potentially setting up two mis-lynches just to immediately end the day and guarantee that no other people claim. It actually seems like you have more benefit to quickhammer as scum. Can you talk to me about this?

2. Your treatment of emps confuses me. Yesterday you typed out a long catchup post where you say that you are unhappy with his play, in spite of the fact that you had mistakenly scum read him in a previous game. And your resulting reads list had emps as your number two suspect. However, fast forward to today and you seem to lack paranoia about him. You said here that you're content blindsheeping an emps TR and in this post you use your past failure as a

reason

to justify blindsheeping a TR on him even though you previously were unhappy with him

in spite of that

. It also strikes me as odd that you're former number 2 scum read was forgotten in your 3am post and now your suddenly sheeping a TR on him when, as far as I can tell, nothing has really changed. Am I missing something here?

3. If you are town and we mis-lynch you today, then we go into LyLo tomorrow. So you should be trying to figure out who scum are and convincing us of those reads. However, your effort from night 1 involved posting a reads list that you wrote after drinking three shots and today you have mostly justified your Ico vote based on stuff that he has done today. That all feels a little weird to me. Can you give an updated reads list and sum up why you think the team is Ico/alimdia (if that's where you're still at) ?

[emps]

caught up and stuffs and im scumreading pops slot even more tbh

points made by wicked in post above are also good

VOTE: popsofcscum

L-1

[Datisi]

Uhhhhh

[Plum]

Votecount 2.3

Iconeum

- 1 (popsofctown)

popsofctown

- 4 (alimdia, Iconeum, Luca Blight, emps)

Not Voting

- 2 (Datisi, Wickedestjr)

With 7 alive 4 votes achieves a lynch. Scene follows.

[Plum]

Day 2 Lynch

popsofctown

,

Vanilla Town

, was lynched Day 2!

Night 2 deadline: (expired on 2019-11-21 09:00:00)

[Plum]

Night 2 Resolution

alimdia

,

Vanilla Town

, died Night 2!

With 5 alive it takes 3 votes to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-11-28 12:00:00)

[Datisi]

What in the goddamn fuck is this game

[Datisi]

Also if you're Town and you have a brain

Don't vote yet

Thank you

[Luca Blight]

Is it time to mass-claim?

[Datisi]

Yes but we need to figure out the order first

[Luca Blight]

IMO:

emps, Wicked, Icon, Luca, Datisi

[Datisi]

I'm a bit undecided between Wicked and emps tbh, the rest i agree

[Datisi]

Ugh, I really wanted Wicked to go first

but alimdia (who was the only one yelling about lynching emps) is dead and then emps did a fucky with that quickhammer

[Luca Blight]

I’m ok with Wicked going first.

[Datisi]

Ok then massclaim time

Wicked - emps - Icon - Luca - Datisi

[Luca Blight]

Yep.

I think until the mass-claim is finished we should avoid speculating too much/giving away any info.