Mainstream Mafia II: D&D Edition [FIN]

[Donempire]

I really dont know why we flipped from TSE to Virgin, we had a good wagon going and i see no reason why we shouldnt go back

Granted i didnt read the game so if you had a good reason, tough luck, we're going back to TSE

[Donempire]

A few posts to refresh your mind on why hes awful:

Once Amrun and UT are dead and both flip Mafia.
I’m hard pushing Chen regardless if it’s 20 or less players left.
Just going to be honest.

Seems more concerned with getting a chen lynch through than figuring out chens alignment, though this is a milder one as if he was %100 certain it was chen with no other possibilty eh. I still think admitting to a tunnel vision at this stage sucks.

And if your excuse is “it’s a bastard game”
Then why TF do you decide to join?
Try or get lynched.
You should NEVER be allowed in Final players. (12 or less probably)

Asking for a policy lynch, great. Didnt have a chance to read all his posts on chen but its clear hes just diverting attention with this.

[Iconeum]

Nevermind i cant even get wagon leader, people are just resting their votes on the fucker

I'm just going to silently join that then

VOTE: TSE

what's so great about TSE wagon?

[Iconeum]

oh i didn't read the posts on this page when posting that :s

[Iconeum]

A few posts to refresh your mind on why hes awful:

Once Amrun and UT are dead and both flip Mafia.
I’m hard pushing Chen regardless if it’s 20 or less players left.
Just going to be honest.

Seems more concerned with getting a chen lynch through than figuring out chens alignment, though this is a milder one as if he was %100 certain it was chen with no other possibilty eh. I still think admitting to a tunnel vision at this stage sucks.

And if your excuse is “it’s a bastard game”
Then why TF do you decide to join?
Try or get lynched.
You should NEVER be allowed in Final players. (12 or less probably)

Asking for a policy lynch, great. Didnt have a chance to read all his posts on chen but its clear hes just diverting attention with this.

how is any of this pointing to scum!TSE?

[Iconeum]

I think a focus like that on Chennis comes from town, not scum.

And wrt to the second part, if you wanna scumread everyone who asked for a policy lynch, look at the TSE wagon itself lol

[Donempire]

Spoiler:

UT is the confirmed scum BTW.
He called my lock town read scum and said “Solving is Scum Indicative”
No ones that bad at the game.
UT is Confirmed Scum.

Untrod = Bad Town or Scum.

why do you think you need to be every other post in this game? serious question. What does it add?

why did you join this game? Serious question because you tried to play AvP, an invitational, and replaced out, and D1 was less then 100 pages at that time.

So someone trying to solve is scummy?
Yep and that’s how I usually get miss lynched Day 1 too.
Damn so much Scum/Bad Town this game LOL.

So much of his iso is deflecting critism by calling the people criticizing "bad town" in an unwitting attempt to guilt them into reconsidering. I'm pretty sure that these kind of posts subconsciously made people reconsider their scumread without even knowing it. I dont need to tell you this is scum behaviour, but also the way that he doesnt even fully commit to the blanket "bad town" statement by also putting a possible "scum" banner in there to vote there in case their read changes, very bad stuff.

Pedit: Diverting attention from himself by trying to paint chen as "not trying/throwing because it is a bastard game" seems pretty scum motivated to me. I am trying to catalogue most of the scummy things he did but step by step.

[Iconeum]

ok i'll hold while you case TSE

i'm not a fan of the TSE policy lynch but if you actually have a scumread there i'm happy to read it

[Donempire]

TSE wagon isnt a policy lynch, sure there are people on the wagon that are there because they are annoyed, but i have reason to believe he is ALSO a scum lynch, two birds with one noose.

[InsideJob711]

@Gamma, been okay, not having a good month tbh. I'll be better if I can make it up to Ali. Ali is tagged out for now.

The fact he just now chooses to share it, he could have killed investigatives.

I think this is a slip. Seems to show FL actually believed the pgo claim and wanted to shame Drew, which didn't make Drew scummy. A scum pgo is better off baiting cops as a matter fact.

About TSE, the spider stuff is spooky but I'm guilty of not knowing anything about D&D except that theres some cool looking monsters in the campaign books. I don't know anything about Cobble to know whether a spider type could be an ally.

[InsideJob711]

To add, that's also all I really feel against TSE. Don't find them scum otherwise.

[EspressoPatronum]

@Dong @Ico
TSE is more likely 3p than scum + there's still a possibility of him being town. I think davesaz mentioned that a little while ago if you want to go back and find it.

In short, we should have a better idea of TSE's his alignment once we flip scum somewhere else.
If scum factions(s) is/are goblins, there's a very high chance TSE is town.
If scum = pretty much anything else, TSE is probably 3p SK or something.

[Menalque]

I’ll be honest I’m not interested in lynching tse in any scenario so long as his power is leashed because fuck trying to get 19 votes on a wagon or w/e

We can talk about TSE again once we get to lower numbers

[Menalque]

Mod: Please replace me with my main, Titus. I feel scum figured this out and it's not fair to town.

I'll try to post some more tomorrow but it's Goddaughter day and I am not having some people know my RL status and not others.

Hi titus

Now I’m actually interested in your vote on me

[InsideJob711]

well now you've gone and made TSE look all juicy to the cult, if they're currently town

[The Fonz]

Can we stop fucking trying to pretend that someone slipped because they said "If they're town, they're playing the claimed role suboptimally" but forgot to put an "assuming they're town" disclaimer in every other sentence? That's not how people talk. Trying to phrase your posts exactly so that no one could possibly think them slips is, if anything, summer. Ironic this happens to FL when he tries that line of attack all the time, but hey.

TSE took a role action D1 that benefited town where there's really clear scum benefit to keeping it quiet. The wagon today started off on a policy lynch kind of vibe, and seems to persist due to inertia.

I'm aware I need to pull my damn finger out and vote, I'll probably do so on Friday.

[Iconeum]

@Dong @Ico
TSE is more likely 3p than scum + there's still a possibility of him being town. I think davesaz mentioned that a little while ago if you want to go back and find it.

In short, we should have a better idea of TSE's his alignment once we flip scum somewhere else.
If scum factions(s) is/are goblins, there's a very high chance TSE is town.
If scum = pretty much anything else, TSE is probably 3p SK or something.

I've already stated i think TSE is unlikely to flip scum. That doesn't take away the fact that I'm interested if anyone is scumreading there.
Also I think it's +

town

sanity if we keep a role around that lets us have easier lynches.

And with a misstep on TSE's part wrt the use of his powers, we can always lynch there next.

[Iconeum]

Can we stop fucking trying to pretend that someone slipped because they said "If they're town, they're playing the claimed role suboptimally" but forgot to put an "assuming they're town" disclaimer in every other sentence? That's not how people talk. Trying to phrase your posts exactly so that no one could possibly think them slips is, if anything, summer. Ironic this happens to FL when he tries that line of attack all the time, but hey.

TSE took a role action D1 that benefited town where there's really clear scum benefit to keeping it quiet. The wagon today started off on a policy lynch kind of vibe, and seems to persist due to inertia.

I'm aware I need to pull my damn finger out and vote, I'll probably do so on Friday.

i like you

[gobbledygook]

I've kinda read the game somewhat, but I kinda wanna vote gobble.
Can someone also explain why the people who are currently being wagoned are?

[gobbledygook]

VOTE: Amrun

Just an FYI
Wouldn’t mind a wagon on this
Will wait until D2 before I decide to actively push it, in the hopes it decides to do something worthwhile

ATTENTION ALL

I RECEIVED A FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR NOTIFICATION FROM GOBBLEDYGOOK

THEY ARE TOWN

I'm gonna sheep Nero lemme see who he's voting

[KidAmn]

-vote count snipped-

WOW Both UT and Chen are voting me.
And their friend AmRun is voting for Virgo?
And the obv Town Inside Job is voting for Rauth.
The Vork wagon has Nero and Rauth voting.
Wow 3 Town Miss Lynch wagons in a row! Who would have thought!

VOTE: Rautherdir

Vote: TSE

Between a day-cop and me being able to confirm Rauth didn't go anywhere last night + reaction-checking him, you're just confirming you're not reading the game. I refuse to allow you to continue in it. If I could day-vig you I would be doing so right now.

[Amrun]

Unvote Raut

Kise here...just went to get some milk, ok

@Amrun, stupid question maybe but is there reason to think people on your list can't also kill non-cobble alignments? And how far down that list are you willing to go if you lynched a scum from that list today?

@Titus which people/person in particular?

I mean, maybe, but definitely can kill Cobble. It’s one baddo and 5 randy names, so if we lynched scum out of the list, we should probably ignore that list and wait for tomorrow’s list if I survive. If we lynch town, though, list is worth revisiting.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

VOTE: Virgo

If I die, who knows what day Abilities Mafia can use after.

[Titus]

VOTE: TSE

I don't care for the AtE, rapid position swaps and not reading.

[Menalque]

Oh yeh UNVOTE: