Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
In post 500, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:This is why you're scum RC. You are so forcefully deathtunneling but if you were actually town then you’d have the capacity to reevaluate.
All: Please let me know who you want to investigate with bold tags or something.
If you're really a cop then you're either dying or getting roleblocked, depending on the setup (you shouldn't have claimed)
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In post 524, Dunnstral wrote:Like, it's an open setup, you didn't look at the grid before claiming?
Okay, RCs case actually made me suspect ETL (don't know if thats because I'm gullible to exp. players or nah), but then the cop claim brought me back. Definitely think its possible that its a fake claim, but I think ETL saying she has no reason to claim early in a newb game is pretty valid.
RC I can see why you're scumreading Yimmy, but I don't really see the case for Dunn as scum? Hes definitely not town in my eyes, but all I really have on him is his absence. So my question to both you AND ETL is, why Dunn over Yimmy?
@Jake, I'm starting to notice you are pretty focused on Jocus, who do you think his partner is? I haven't really seen anything other than making a case for Jocus, which is the reason you're accusing Jocus in the first place.
In post 531, LoserdudeOG wrote:@Jake, I'm starting to notice you are pretty focused on Jocus, who do you think his partner is? I haven't really seen anything other than making a case for Jocus, which is the reason you're accusing Jocus in the first place.
Probably Radiant. Hell, they're so experienced that
It's either between ETL and Radiant just seeming to take the piss out of each other or Jake and Jocus fighting each other. And all of it just seems to be "I didn't like you in other games so I don't like you now." Heck, someone even made a claim already, and that's super cool.
Normally, I'd want to look at people's votes and see what's going on, but 4 of these votes just seem to be hate votes so I'm not sure what to Analyze.
But do you know what I think? Both RtC and ETL are town. They just both really, really don't like each other, like some type of "You're both neighbors, but you hate each other. We might as well call this a Home owners association."
Also, if ETL is towncop the other option for the open setup is... goon. Yeah, you're either dead or roleblocked, so that was an incredibly pointless claim.
I also finally caught up to what the heck is going on -- and before jake accuses of me being extremely low post count, I want to comment on the fact there's a vast majority of people who seem to want make every though and phrase into a new post rather than collecting it all at once. Hell, page 12 is almost literally one person posting. Hell, after page 14 everything kind of devolved into madness.
Now, with that out of the way
I think Jocus is Scum. His MUCH earlier posts within the first 10 pages are pretty evident of it, and while I do appreciate Jake for not getting a quick Lynch onto it, I think he's probably the highest person.
Etl, if for some reason you're not dead or useless, I think the next person you'd want to check is Yimmy. A lot of his collective posts are strange to me, but not in the contradiction sense, but more as a "Pushing a bandwagon". Biggest example I can give is the entire push on MC back on page 6.
In post 531, LoserdudeOG wrote:@Jake, I'm starting to notice you are pretty focused on Jocus, who do you think his partner is? I haven't really seen anything other than making a case for Jocus, which is the reason you're accusing Jocus in the first place.
Probably Radiant. Hell, they're so experienced that
RC its a little unclear but at some point your reads reversed on Moonchild and Yimmy. Yimmy was a little more clear, but Moonchild was not so much? I assume it was because ETL auto confirmed her as town via her townslip, but I would think that might be reason to suspect her more no?
Really need WHYs out of you. I know you stated a short why on your Jocus read,
In post 302, RadiantCowbells wrote: Jocus's well I gotta be lynched today since I'm being scumread is town the vast majority of the time.
But I disagree and think that can be easily faked. I saw this more as a last ditch attempt to make us go, "hmm damn maybe we should rethink this" ESPECIALLY since he started prodging after this.
He wouldn't start prodging if he were scum he'd try to convince people that his willingness to be lynched was legit without doing that. Prodging is actual town and I don't think this is as common for scum to fake as people faced with it seem to think it is?
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
In post 534, Arkias wrote:
But do you know what I think? Both RtC and ETL are town. They just both really, really don't like each other, like some type of "You're both neighbors, but you hate each other. We might as well call this a Home owners association."
This means that the only scumread you have is Jocus, who do you think his partner is?
Like you can make hypothetical he could and would arguments but I think that he is Towny by play and I don't think I've ever seen scum do what he's doing and I think if we want to flip scum we should vote in Dunn/Yimmy
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
I know you don't like making cases but can you please make one for Dunn? Right now he's null for me and if I voted for him it would only be because hes barely on here and because you're telling me to. For now I'll put my vote on Yimmy because I think I'm an easy target rn and thats why he voted me instead of ETL when you were presenting your case. This definitely makes me suspect that ETL is his scumbuddy as well, but we'll see what happens in the night phase, and if anyone CCs day 2.
like i still don't get why you didn't say this when first asked about the case. this and the case you presented make sense though so that alleviates the fear of being manipulated.
What happens if ETL is just really good and you're scum reading them because of it?
Also, please make your posts more consice. You don't have to make each and every post you make a novel It's really hard and unfriendly when you use unnecessary words to make your posts longer.
are you like... reading the game? you seem awfully clueless everytime you come in to post. i don't think the way your playing is good or pro-town by any means, but i'd expect more from mafia because they want to do things besides lynch jocus. your posts just make more sense from town who's just really confident jocus is scum than from scum who wants a mislynch. if you were mafia pushing a mislynch you'd want something to hold onto after he flips town but you haven't put any effort into doing that thing even when asked. your disregard just shows no care for whether people think you're town and just a sole desire to say what you think and lynch who you think is scum. i suppose this is in contrast to how i've treated/read you prior and it is because a: i really hate letting people get away with playing badly and b: i've slept on it
a lil lost regarding the suspicion for me. from what i can tell it's that a: i thought someone was scummier than etl and b: i didn't trust that rc wasn't giving any explanation for
why
things were scummy. the first point hinges on association with etl but without a cc those are pretty moot, and i don't see the problem with the second one i guess.
but all that came from rc. loser, do you just agree with rc, or do you have more to contribute?
what does being an easy target mean beyond that you've done multiple things that could be suspected?
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
