ewwwwwIn post 7148, Cephrir wrote:-Consider the possibility a game this size might have two vigs
-If you must, shoot rather than counterclaiming
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Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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The list of players that fit this billet is ridiculously long, this is an excuse for a lazy push.In post 7142, The Fonz wrote:
It's the things he hasn't done, ie anything whatsoever that looks town motivated.In post 7136, Miss Lane wrote:Not today, at least. If you want to come after him tomorrow, sure.
I'm almost certain he's being pushed as bait by certain scummy people that some have already discussed and others I won't bring up at this time.
This elements push is one of the laziest ones I've seen in a while. Can anyone even bring up the thing he did that was actually scummy, or are y'all all riding the tone of what you remember of this game you've likely only read nearly 10% of and momentum of the wagon?- Menalque
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+1In post 7151, Cephrir wrote:Genuinely have no idea what issue anyone could take with that post, but you love to call basic mafia theory scummy, so hey, go for it
Nero can u stop, i think you’re tunnelled badly on ceph and I can’t even remember why you think he’s scum?- Elements
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Elements, if you're hired muscle why didn't you attempt to do your job? Even a null lurker or spammer would be better than nothing.
Being outed makes you a prime recruitment target, since it would essentially give the cult a factional kill.
That aspect of things makes the "people who can kill detector" a questionable role.A community that stifles dissent does not deserve the title of community- Menalque
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i don't know what that meansIn post 7159, Menalque wrote:Are you willing to be gated?I agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
It's scummy as fak tho - Gamma Emerald- Menalque
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hrmmm...does scum ele fakeclaim vig here?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Elements would only claim vig if he had a killing role. So I doubt it if he was mafia (unless he was mafia with a specific kill in addition to the regular mafia kill), but he could be 3p or town.In post 7163, Nero Cain wrote:hrmmm...does scum ele fakeclaim vig here?- Elements
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As in I'm told who I should shoot within, or I am actually unable to shoot anyone elseIn post 7161, Menalque wrote:We give you a list of targets to shoot withinI agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
It's scummy as fak tho - Gamma Emerald- Menalque
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This is a tactic town uses to control Serial Killers because Serial Killers are not town and are pledging allegiance to town. The likelihood that any member of the game that tells a serial killer where to shoot within is town is higher than the likelihood that the Serial Killer is town, and therefore this is an acceptable strategy.In post 7159, Menalque wrote:Are you willing to be gated?
However, this is a terrible tactic with Vigilantes, because Vigilantes know their role and know that they are town, therefore their intentions will have town's best interest in mind regardless. The likelihood that any member of the game giving the vigilante an area to shoot in is town is significantly lower than the likelihood that the vigilante is town, therefore this is not an acceptable strategy.- Miss Lane
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in fairness scum also want to leash killing roles as well/
So I guess Vork or Titus today huh?
added bonus of killing Vork is mod won't have to replace him.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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While this is slightly more acceptable, it still gives scum one more area in which they have a say in what town does.In post 7170, Menalque wrote:I’m not saying I want to individually gate him
I’m saying I’d like us to collectively gate him
As a general rule of "uninformed majority vs informed minority," minimizing the opportunity for the smaller group to execute their informational advantage is usually a pretty good idea.- Miss Lane
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surely the general conensi scum reads would be the effective "gate" anyway?In post 7170, Menalque wrote:I’m not saying I want to individually gate him
I’m saying I’d like us to collectively gate himI agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
It's scummy as fak tho - Gamma Emerald - Elements
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