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Post Post #7350 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:22 am

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In post 7346, Menalque wrote:I’m finding it frustrating because thinking I would intentionally put zor on my list with a hider check on him as mafia is just dumb.
I kind of agree with this though. Like maybe its somewhat rare but I think scum do fake derp tells for town cred. And its also possible that you aren't even paying much attention to the game [as scum] but I guess I'm sort of willing to go "oh this is just an honest mistake"
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Post Post #7351 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:05 pm

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I'm gonna answer the question that I expect to come up from without even refreshing the page, using the quick reply. So I have no idea if anyone has even asked this, but...

I read Menalque as highly manipulative. I don't care how towny he feels himself to be, or how towny others feel him to be. He's too pushy at a point in the game that we don't know alignments yet. That's being manipulative, regardless of alignment, and I don't like it. Let things flow.
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Post Post #7352 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:20 pm

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In post 7162, davesaz wrote:Leave yourself out of the "we" and I might allow it.
In post 7332, Menalque wrote:
In post 7327, EspressoPatronum wrote:
In post 7299, Menalque wrote:Can u poison dave firewoofer?
P sure davesaz is town. Didn't you say he was null earlier?
Idk maybe? But he moved up to a scumlean
kinda OMGUSy
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Post Post #7353 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:21 pm

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I personally TR Dave.


Titus is the most obvious lynch today. Please, let us lynch her.

Elements should kill Vorkuta probably. He wouldn’t be my top choice but it would probably help sort others at this point. Or, Korina or some other chronic lurker.

Fire’s going to do whatever he does, so whatever.

For whatever it is worth, I have personally designed a game with a town poisoner. I don’t think a delayed kill itself is AI whatsoever.
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Post Post #7354 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:22 pm

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In post 7351, davesaz wrote:I'm gonna answer the question that I expect to come up from without even refreshing the page, using the quick reply. So I have no idea if anyone has even asked this, but...

I read Menalque as highly manipulative. I don't care how towny he feels himself to be, or how towny others feel him to be. He's too pushy at a point in the game that we don't know alignments yet. That's being manipulative, regardless of alignment, and I don't like it. Let things flow.
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Elements is also a thinking being, plenty capable of making his own decision as far as the kill is concerned. Unless he specifically asks for your input, you're simply giving away more information than you have to or probably should from an optimal game standpoint, and it implies general disrespect for Elements' judgement by implying that he can't think for himself from a human being standpoint.
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Post Post #7355 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:28 pm

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I’d lynch Menalque tbh. It’s not best for today due to the red haired elf thing but I agree with Dave.
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Post Post #7356 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:45 pm

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I find dave’s progression very screwy and I think it’s weird he’s pushing at me given what he’s said
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Post Post #7357 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:47 pm

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Post Post #7358 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:50 pm

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Post Post #7359 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:51 pm

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In post 2713, davesaz wrote:While I don't like Menalque's delivery, this
might
be town. If it's for the reason I think it is.

Pedit: by pressuring. You've made your case and there are 38 more people you need to get a read on.
In post 2738, davesaz wrote:
In post 2713, davesaz wrote:While I don't like Menalque's delivery, this
might
be town. If it's for the reason I think it is.
I specifically dislike the method.
I also feel the target of that method is the wrong target. We do however need a big wagon or six.
In post 4930, davesaz wrote:
In post 4892, Cephrir wrote:
In post 4859, chkflip wrote:For some reason she'd double her efforts this evening. Even she doesn't understand why.
I had spotted several likely clues in the events of the previous evening, but this one was certainly the clearest.
A lot can be gleaned from the write up.
In post 5030, davesaz wrote:Doubtful that orcus is town given the NK flavor. But we won't know until someone flips with that.
In post 6843, davesaz wrote:
In post 6841, Nero Cain wrote:ok Dave, who made the kills last night and why are we not lynching them?
I think the one that had Orcus flavor is from groupscum and the other one is SK or equivalent.
Doesn't help yet with who, but it tells us what to expect.
If there is a vig out there they should also have gleaned information from it.

The overall writeup has a bunch more information. I'm not the type of person who starts pointing out PRs so that's the most you're going to get right now.
In post 6894, davesaz wrote:Menalque wanting a leash is very scummy.
In post 7162, davesaz wrote:Leave yourself out of the "we" and I might allow it.
In post 7351, davesaz wrote:I'm gonna answer the question that I expect to come up from without even refreshing the page, using the quick reply. So I have no idea if anyone has even asked this, but...

I read Menalque as highly manipulative. I don't care how towny he feels himself to be, or how towny others feel him to be. He's too pushy at a point in the game that we don't know alignments yet. That's being manipulative, regardless of alignment, and I don't like it. Let things flow.
So the NK flavour implies that orcus is scum, the fact that flavour is important has been pointed out multiple times by you, you thought I was potentially town on D0/1 whenever that post was from... but you’re pushing me despite me having been the kill target from what you believe to be groupscum?
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Post Post #7360 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:52 pm

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Post Post #7361 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:52 pm

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Post Post #7362 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:53 pm

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Shit I have test tomorrow

guess here goes my netflix night
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Post Post #7363 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:53 pm

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In post 7354, Miss Lane wrote:
In post 7351, davesaz wrote:I'm gonna answer the question that I expect to come up from without even refreshing the page, using the quick reply. So I have no idea if anyone has even asked this, but...

I read Menalque as highly manipulative. I don't care how towny he feels himself to be, or how towny others feel him to be. He's too pushy at a point in the game that we don't know alignments yet. That's being manipulative, regardless of alignment, and I don't like it. Let things flow.
+1

Elements is also a thinking being, plenty capable of making his own decision as far as the kill is concerned. Unless he specifically asks for your input, you're simply giving away more information than you have to or probably should from an optimal game standpoint, and it implies general disrespect for Elements' judgement by implying that he can't think for himself from a human being standpoint.
Why are you assuming that elements is actually a town vig rather than another killing role claiming town vig?
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Post Post #7364 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:55 pm

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In post 6756, Menalque wrote:Aka execution boi
Fuck this day if it has all been about wagoning one single player like D1 was
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Post Post #7365 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:55 pm

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In post 7363, Menalque wrote:Why are you assuming that elements is actually a town vig rather than another killing role claiming town vig?
Why are you not?
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Post Post #7366 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:56 pm

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In post 6760, pisskop wrote:No Gov is a copout
Don't make me bring politics again
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Post Post #7367 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:57 pm

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In post 7353, Amrun wrote:Fire’s going to do whatever he does, so whatever.
you don't care that he shot @ me? The lack of scrutiny isn't great. Though yes, I've seen a town poisoner that doesn't make him a town poisoner.
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Post Post #7368 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:58 pm

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In post 7365, Elements wrote:
In post 7363, Menalque wrote:Why are you assuming that elements is actually a town vig rather than another killing role claiming town vig?
Why are you not?
Because I don’t TR you on play (self-evidently, or I wouldn’t have pushed you to be lynched) and you happen to have claimed one of the few roles for which there is a big incentive to keep you alive? But mostly the first point
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Post Post #7369 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:58 pm

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In post 6791, pisskop wrote:He outed his alt in this game, right?

I TRed that as a move to clear the air.
What?
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Post Post #7370 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:59 pm

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@mena, the BG on you doesn't confirm you.
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Post Post #7371 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:59 pm

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Aw man my netflix night
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Post Post #7372 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:00 pm

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Can someone actually be towny?
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Post Post #7373 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:00 pm

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In post 7370, Nero Cain wrote:@mena, the BG on you doesn't confirm you.
It should confirm me in dave’s eyes if he believes (as he said) that the orcus kill flavour is from groupscum
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Post Post #7374 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:01 pm

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guess only Enter fits the parameter
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