Newbie 1964 [Game Over]

[RadiantCowbells]

I gave up trying to fight fair, I'm done fighting fair. Let's see what I can get out of the thread now.

[RadiantCowbells]

your case is lacking anything that's alignment indicative, at least in my opinion.

your original vote was, IIRC, because he was the most active but not moving the game forward. Does that make him more likely to be scum on page 2 than anybody else? I don't think it does. I would expect that your read wasn't very strong at all (assuming town!Billy) and that goes back to your vote being opportunistic (assuming scum!Billy).

This is problematic to me; why call someone out for having a 'not good enough' Page 2 vote and the phrasing used in the prior reference to it (attempt to retroactively justify previous vote) doesn't sit all that well with me.

[RadiantCowbells]

Independently townreading Gyro Zeppeli even if I wasn't townreading Jamelia.

[RadiantCowbells]

FOS Billy and FOS Micc.

heh heh heh heh heh

[bepwei]

billy pilgrim - Mason claim I believe it. I saw his interaction D2 as genuine to me and have no reason to doubt
heavy anaconda - arguably lurked. Hasn’t voted much and
Jamelia - I see his replacement as genuine town. He has interacted with RC and Karnage well and furthered town as a result.
radiantcowbells - Not only a Mason claim, but also has furthered the game farther than some people who have been in the game the whole time.
BBmolla - I see his interactions as super weird. Like he has been posting reads but then like doesn’t really push them hard. I'm referring to the SoD2. I could see this slot flipping red but I doubt it his intentions seem genuine and has furthered town discussion.
Karnage - suspicions started with the weirdness around the LCpl/Gilded slot. His reaction to the RC claim seemed weird and disingenuine.

Ultimately, Karnage needed someone to flip to to save his life. Unfortunately that was me. I think the best course of action would be a Karnage lynch then a Heavy lynch. I understand this isn’t really useful, but before I die, I thought I should let everything out. Similar to Karnage, I intend to self hammer before I leave. Also if I am/have been slow recently its because im working on some scholarship essays atm.

[RadiantCowbells]

I feel really uninterested in an endgame that includes Karnage atm.

UNVOTE:

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Heavy Anacondra

Let's get rid of this shit and then I think that me and Billy can solve this overnight.

[bepwei]

VOTE: Heavy Anaconda
Im suspicious and a self prez

[RadiantCowbells]

Wait.

UNVOTE:

Ugh.

[Jamelia]

I firmly believe the mafia is Karnage and Molla/Anaconda at this point. My vote will stay on Karnage because I believe that benefits us the most.

[Jamelia]

Bep, god.

Ok RC if you’re thinking similar than me did you just read Bep’s quick vote on Anaconda to be sus?

[RadiantCowbells]

What if it's Karnage/Bepwei?

Jamelia, a NL is a very bad thing.

[Jamelia]

I believe you are being sincere Bep, but why did you do that?

[Jamelia]

I’m not calling for a NL here. But I am not going to cave and just do a random vote on Someone just to get a vote through.

I was pretty close to hammering on Bep until they came in with this reads. I believe we can and should get the votes on Karnage.

[Jamelia]

Right now my list is:

Karnage —> Anaconda/Molla —> Bep.

[Jamelia]

And yes, I believe it can only be one of Molla/Anaconda.

[RadiantCowbells]

[bepwei]

I believe you are being sincere Bep, but why did you do that?

well the town has been following RC this whole time and figured that was my best chance at survival. Also thats more info than many others have been giving for votes. Asking this from a newbie perspective, why is that vote change sus?

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm tremendously not a fan of the back and forth between bepwei and Karnage in late D1.

I'm not sure who I think comes off worse from it, both come off pretty bad.

Honestly I kinda townread Anacondra, my issue is moreso that like it's somewhat hard for me to see Bbmolla town but maybe I should sheep Micc on that read? Idk.

[RadiantCowbells]

Although there's certain parts of Bbmolla's iso that do feel really good, mostly the townread on the Anacondra predecessor.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm inclined to believe Billy here but I'd like BB to elaborate on his vote

And this is just

Like, feels kinda tmiy but I don't know how coppish that actually came across

[RadiantCowbells]

Not being there at the time.

[RadiantCowbells]

This is a great vid btw

[skitter30]

Vote Count 2.7

bepwei (2) ~

billy pilgrim, karnage

jamelia (1) ~

bbmolla

karnage (1) ~

jamelia

heavy anaconda (1) ~

bepwei

not voting (2) ~

heavy anaconda, radiantcowbells

with 7 alive it's 4 to lynch

deadline:

(expired on 2019-11-25 04:18:13)

mod notes:

- i'm planning on being asleep at deadline, so flip probably won't happen until i wake up tomorrow morning

[RadiantCowbells]

giving u ur pt