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[GuiltyLion]

Is the theory of GBJ and GL now? If so, then wouldn't lynching GL be the better play?

No, the theory is Map Wolf and PvtUrist. Or Map Wolf and GL if you somehow still think that I'm scum

[GuiltyLion]

Glided Sun and BS both have wagons to 3 again.

This suggest Map wolf and GS have the same alignment.

also lol if this turns out to be true and they're both scum I'll be impressed

[GuiltyLion]

Here's how this is going to go.

Unless Titus or Rise sees the light, you lynch me because Map Wolf is obviously going to vote me to save himself. (I guarantee PvtUrist stays on me here despite claiming to scumread both of us equally)

I flip town and either faustiv or Titus dies depending on the setup.

You lynch Map Wolf in LYLO.

The other of faustiv/Titus dies.

You lynch PvtUrist for the win.

Rise, if you vote GBJ at any point this game I am going to be salty with you postgame. Warning you now

Titus - assuming that I flip town, do you agree to this plan?

[Map Wolf]

Here's how this is going to go.

Unless Titus or Rise sees the light, you lynch me because Map Wolf is obviously going to vote me to save himself. (I guarantee PvtUrist stays on me here despite claiming to scumread both of us equally)

I flip town and either faustiv or Titus dies depending on the setup.

You lynch Map Wolf in LYLO.

The other of faustiv/Titus dies.

You lynch PvtUrist for the win.

Rise, if you vote GBJ at any point this game I am going to be salty with you postgame. Warning you now

Titus - assuming that I flip town, do you agree to this plan?

This is why I am not comfortable about hammering you. If you flip town we basically lose. Although I suppose if you are town, then chances are that pvt would be scum.

[Map Wolf]

Now this could be WIFOM, but the people voting GL would have every incentive to push for a lynch on me if they were scum; a lynch on me would force a Lylo between GL and Pvt tomorrow. On the other hand, GL flipping town would be bad for pvt, and GL flipping scum would be bad for scum in general.

I honestly feel like our best shot is to gamble GL is scum. Even if that would probably cost us the game if he flips town. Specifically, GL --> Pvt in that order would likely get us the highest chance of lynching scum. On the other hand, lynching me and having me flip town doesn't lead to an obvious D3 lynch. Seriously. If I flipped town, we'd be discussing Pvt v GL again.

[GuiltyLion]

Map Wolf what do you actually believe the odds are that I'm scum? You aren't projecting as confident as Rise/PvtUrist, why is that?

If you assume that I'm flipping town (which I am), who do you think is PvtUrist's partner?

bc I guarantee you that if you are somehow town PvtUrist is 100% confirmed scum

[GayBabyJailor]

Map Wolf what do you actually believe the odds are that I'm scum? You aren't projecting as confident as Rise/PvtUrist, why is that?

If you assume that I'm flipping town (which I am), who do you think is PvtUrist's partner?

bc I guarantee you that if you are somehow town PvtUrist is 100% confirmed scum

this tbh
if map wolf is town who tf is the scum partner

[GuiltyLion]

I'm fractionally paranoid of the Rise/PvtUrist team, I'm gonna try to see if I can find anything that rules them out. Rise/TGS didn't really interact at all

[GuiltyLion]

Hi Ptv (can I call you that?) glad you're here. Like seriously. Just finished catching up and reading your posts was a breath of fresh air cause it reflects a lot of what my gut's been telling me this whole game. I've been second guessing myself but not anymore. Don't care about anyone else, but you get my townread.

my heart says this is still pure but maaaan if Rise is scum we are screwed

[Map Wolf]

Map Wolf what do you actually believe the odds are that I'm scum? You aren't projecting as confident as Rise/PvtUrist, why is that?

If you assume that I'm flipping town (which I am), who do you think is PvtUrist's partner?

bc I guarantee you that if you are somehow town PvtUrist is 100% confirmed scum

Why do you think me flipping town would make Pvt scum?

As for your question, I think the most obvious scumpairing not involving you would be Pvt/Rise as you pointed out in your post prior to this one.

[GuiltyLion]

Because Titus and faustiv and GBJ sure aren't scum

[GuiltyLion]

key to this game is gonna be finding the townie in Map Wolf/Rise/TGS

This is still true lol and it looks like its gonna be up to GBJ and faustiv and Titus to do it

[GuiltyLion]

You also didn't answer my question about the actual odds that you think I'm scum. Like in a vacuum what do you think makes me shimmy and then how does that compare to Pvt/TGS

[GuiltyLion]

scummy*

[Map Wolf]

Because Titus and faustiv and GBJ sure aren't scum

Well people have suggested that you and GBJ are scumteam and that is a possibility.

[Map Wolf]

You also didn't answer my question about the actual odds that you think I'm scum. Like in a vacuum what do you think makes me shimmy and then how does that compare to Pvt/TGS

I'm not going to analyse you in a vacuum. That's not how this works.

I think you joining the BS wagon would make sense if you are scum. In addition, you then try to push Titus!Scum the day after, knowing that people are annoyed at the PR lynch. You then kind of stop the push the moment that someone points out who the next nk would be. You then vote me the moment that Faustiv suggests that we lynch me.

529 comes off really wrong tonally to me. "Let's just blame this player for not agreeing with me". 534 is tonally negative to me as well. Also, his interactions will GBJ come off as suspicious.

Also, the suggested lynch onto me is plainly wrong. What information does me flipping town give? Is there then a universally agreed lynch on d3? A lynch we'd agree would be optimal beforehand? I don't think so. GL and Pvt have both suggested that I were the scumpartner of Pvt and GL respectively. On the other hand, GL flpping town would give us information and would make it pretty likely that Pvt is scum.

Honestly, I think GL/GBJ is very possible. The only reason that I am not just hammering is because if GL flipped town, then we'd be screwed.

But honestly, I think it's our best shot at winning.

[Map Wolf]

Intent

[GayBabyJailor]

i was going to hammer guiltylion when time was almost up but now works too i suppose

[Map Wolf]

Not doing it right now. I want to give people a chance to respond.

[Titus]

Here's how this is going to go.

Unless Titus or Rise sees the light, you lynch me because Map Wolf is obviously going to vote me to save himself. (I guarantee PvtUrist stays on me here despite claiming to scumread both of us equally)

I flip town and either faustiv or Titus dies depending on the setup.

You lynch Map Wolf in LYLO.

The other of faustiv/Titus dies.

You lynch PvtUrist for the win.

Rise, if you vote GBJ at any point this game I am going to be salty with you postgame. Warning you now

Titus - assuming that I flip town, do you agree to this plan?

I'm not opposed to it if you flip town. It would be lylo so I'd have to check my work but the vote discrepancy today suggests that's a good play.

[Titus]

Glided Sun and BS both have wagons to 3 again.

This suggest Map wolf and GS have the same alignment.

also lol if this turns out to be true and they're both scum I'll be impressed

Hmph

[Titus]

Sidenote: Guilty manipulation is real. He keeps insisting that I'm stupid to discredit me/insinuate "if you're not stupid, you'll agree with me."

That's NAI. Personality is confidence.

[GuiltyLion]

alright go ahead and hammer me scums, I feel at peace with this now

sorry I got a little heated this game. it's been a long time since I've felt like I had no real sway in determining lynches or having my voice heard and that was frustrating for me at times, but in the end I don't blame you all, good luck to town. I think Pvt is a sliiiiightly safer Lynch than Map Wolf tomorrow but I won't complain if Map is lynched either

[Plotinus]

Official Vote Count 2.10

Amazon River, South America

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Lynching

With 7 votes in play, it takes 4 to lynch.

GuiltyLion

(3): Titus, Rise, PvtUrist

Map Wolf

(2): faüstiv, GuiltyLion

Not Voting

(2): Map Wolf, GayBabyJailor

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-11-27 21:00:00).

Mod notes:

PvtUrist replaces TheGildedSun. Nancy Drew 39 is our backup mod.[/area]

[faüstiv]

I'm fractionally paranoid of the Rise/PvtUrist team, I'm gonna try to see if I can find anything that rules them out. Rise/TGS didn't really interact at all

did you find anything? what’s your read on Rise?

I find her tonally town but I’m going to reread them.