Mini 2106 - Magia Record Fate Weave Semi-U-Pick (OVER!)

[Bitmap]

what am I reading?

[Salamence20]

Being called a VI is so 2011.

[Venus and Mars]

I wish Shiro was around because I think I could read Shiro better than I can read Nancy.

I’m more interested in hearing your read on Fakran and why you’re responding as if his claim of my making an emotional tunnel isn’t straight up bs.

Hes waiting for severa to show up then vote whichever is more opportunistic

P-Edit: Every post Farkran makes steels my read on him

I really didn’t like Alchemist completely ignoring Fakran and suspiciously switching it to my slot. Not only is Fakran, persisting in calling my logic-based read an “emotional tunnel”, a blatant misrep but Alchemist acting like he’s totally buying into that, pings me. If Fakran flips scum, Alchemist has some serious buddy equity, I think.

[Salamence20]

Farkran went from Bitmap to Shiro Drew to Bitmap and now Pops under pressure.

He dies today.

[Farkran]

@v&m you're not even realizing you are now raising your townread certainty about people only because they're scumreading me.

How is that logic-based? You need to sleep this over. I'm not being hostile, i know what it means to be emotionally tunneled. I correctly townreaded emps in my first game (newbie 1951) out of that.

[Venus and Mars]

Farkran went from Bitmap to Shiro Drew to Bitmap and now Pops under pressure.

He dies today.

Yeah, it definitely looks like he’s flailing. And considering Pops is still the leading wagon, it’s looks more like self-pres than a genuine read.

[Farkran]

Farkran went from Bitmap to Shiro Drew to Bitmap and now Pops under pressure.

He dies today.

I give up on you. It's not like i didn't try.

After i flip, please remember that i told you.

@everyone else: i still think salamence is town

[Alchemist21]

I wish Shiro was around because I think I could read Shiro better than I can read Nancy.

I’m more interested in hearing your read on Fakran and why you’re responding as if his claim of my making an emotional tunnel isn’t straight up bs.

I’ve been thinking Farkran is Town for a while. You might not have been tunneling but I do think Farkran perceived it that way and it was worth pointing out that it’s NAI anyway.

[Alchemist21]

alchemist why are you aligning pops and kerset for specifically the reason why you should disalign them?

Because it’s actually a reason to align them and not disalign them.

[Venus and Mars]

@v&m you're not even realizing you are now raising your townread certainty about people only because they're scumreading me.

How is that logic-based? You need to sleep this over. I'm not being hostile, i know what it means to be emotionally tunneled. I correctly townreaded emps in my first game (newbie 1951) out of that.

You look like the only reason you are voting Pops, is because she’s sr you and the fact the she just happens to be the lead wagon, also make your sudden vote on her look opportunistic as well.

His ISO contains extremely nuanced reads and instead of arguing with her why you think she’s wrong, you vote a leading wagon that’s at serious risk of flipping.

[Farkran]

Farkran went from Bitmap to Shiro Drew to Bitmap and now Pops under pressure.

He dies today.

Yeah, it definitely looks like he’s flailing. And considering Pops is still the leading wagon, it’s looks more like self-pres than a genuine read.

You have it backwards...

Ok, listen, you all need to get some sleep over this and read again later. I'm going to stop arguing now because you aren't being lucid.

I have provided my reads based on this exchange. Pops need to flip, and if he flips scum we need to look at evenstar first.

[Farkran]

alchemist why are you aligning pops and kerset for specifically the reason why you should disalign them?

Because it’s actually a reason to align them and not disalign them.

Scumpartners do not play along like that... do you know the history of pops and kerset together?

[Alchemist21]

Chemist might be associated to pops, too little content to determine.

Gamma, same as chemist, but i would guess pops' slight SR of her might be either distancing or maintaining a window of opportunity to lynch her later if he's town.

You’re gonna have to explain how you think these slots are aligned with pops when you count out other partnerships for similar reasons.

[Venus and Mars]

I wish Shiro was around because I think I could read Shiro better than I can read Nancy.

I’m more interested in hearing your read on Fakran and why you’re responding as if his claim of my making an emotional tunnel isn’t straight up bs.

I’ve been thinking Farkran is Town for a while. You might not have been tunneling but I do think Farkran perceived it that way and it was worth pointing out that it’s NAI anyway.

What annoys me is that I gave very clear logic-based reasons for why I’m sr him and he ignores all that and keep misrepping it as emotion-based when it’s not.

[Farkran]

@v&m you're not even realizing you are now raising your townread certainty about people only because they're scumreading me.

How is that logic-based? You need to sleep this over. I'm not being hostile, i know what it means to be emotionally tunneled. I correctly townreaded emps in my first game (newbie 1951) out of that.

You look like the only reason you are voting Pops, is because she’s sr you and the fact the she just happens to be the lead wagon, also make your sudden vote on her look opportunistic as well.

His ISO contains extremely nuanced reads and instead of arguing with her why you think she’s wrong, you vote a leading wagon that’s at serious risk of flipping.

No. I'm voting pops because she's better than not noticing me and you is TvT. If i wanted to omgus somewhere for no reason, it wouldn't be pops.

[Alchemist21]

alchemist why are you aligning pops and kerset for specifically the reason why you should disalign them?

Because it’s actually a reason to align them and not disalign them.

Scumpartners do not play along like that... do you know the history of pops and kerset together?

Prior games? No. And as I said before, Kerset waffled on his pops read which read like scum who didn’t want to form a definite stance on their buddy. When scum is like that but feel pressured into forming a stance on them they can get tripped up like that.

[Evenstar]

Why do you want to lynch from your leftover category as opposed to your scum category? Also why is Salamence scum?

Because I expect us to be in about the same positions on my leftover category 3 days from now unless they see significant pressure.

[Venus and Mars]

Farkran went from Bitmap to Shiro Drew to Bitmap and now Pops under pressure.

He dies today.

Yeah, it definitely looks like he’s flailing. And considering Pops is still the leading wagon, it’s looks more like self-pres than a genuine read.

You have it backwards...

Ok, listen, you all need to get some sleep over this and read again later. I'm going to stop arguing now because you aren't being lucid.

I have provided my reads based on this exchange. Pops need to flip, and if he flips scum we need to look at evenstar first.

I think I’m being extremely lucid and what if she flips town. which is what I expect to happen, because I think she’s a mislynch. How are Pops and Even linked?

[Farkran]

Chemist might be associated to pops, too little content to determine.

Gamma, same as chemist, but i would guess pops' slight SR of her might be either distancing or maintaining a window of opportunity to lynch her later if he's town.

You’re gonna have to explain how you think these slots are aligned with pops when you count out other partnerships for similar reasons.

It's actually hard for me to find strong associational with pops. Those are my plausible poes, as opposed to other people being more disaligned.

Despite what any of you may think, pops is actually an awesome player.

[Evenstar]

@v&m you're not even realizing you are now raising your townread certainty about people only because they're scumreading me.

How is that logic-based? You need to sleep this over. I'm not being hostile, i know what it means to be emotionally tunneled. I correctly townreaded emps in my first game (newbie 1951) out of that.

You look like the only reason you are voting Pops, is because she’s sr you and the fact the she just happens to be the lead wagon, also make your sudden vote on her look opportunistic as well.

His ISO contains extremely nuanced reads and instead of arguing with her why you think she’s wrong, you vote a leading wagon that’s at serious risk of flipping.

No. I'm voting pops because

she's better than not noticing me and you is TvT.

If i wanted to omgus somewhere for no reason, it wouldn't be pops.

Why are you suddenly certain that V&M are town?

[Venus and Mars]

@v&m you're not even realizing you are now raising your townread certainty about people only because they're scumreading me.

How is that logic-based? You need to sleep this over. I'm not being hostile, i know what it means to be emotionally tunneled. I correctly townreaded emps in my first game (newbie 1951) out of that.

You look like the only reason you are voting Pops, is because she’s sr you and the fact the she just happens to be the lead wagon, also make your sudden vote on her look opportunistic as well.

His ISO contains extremely nuanced reads and instead of arguing with her why you think she’s wrong, you vote a leading wagon that’s at serious risk of flipping.

No. I'm voting pops because she's better than not noticing me and you is TvT. If i wanted to omgus somewhere for no reason, it wouldn't be pops.

Why wouldn’t you, considering she’s the lead wagon? It’s safest for you to vote the lead wagon, for merely self-pres reasons. Disagree?

[popsofctown]

Show me where you are using your own thoughts as opposed to move people up and down your internal readlist because so far i have only seen general consensus reads coming from you, which MIGHT be ok but i would expect at least some concern when your instinct leads you to vote already populated wagons rather than doubt the town-motivation of any of those wagons.

TL;DR please produce a detailed readlist with only your own thoughts.

This is where you call V&M a sheepy slot? And I don't think it's the only time?
I'm surprised you're trying to walk it back rather than trying to justify it.

I'm not sure why you're voting me. I've read you correctly 0/1 times, a BoP that town!pops would never misread you is silly. Do you not understand my reasoning for disliking your slot?
I think Alchemist, Gamma, and TL are all better lynches than you, or at least I did think that, but if you're just going immediately scumlock me for voting you and start speculating associatives there's not much ability to work with you here. The progression's not making sense to me.

[Evenstar]

Did med test, some xmas shopping, phone low again & have class, will pop back in again in probably an hour

[Alchemist21]

Despite what any of you may think, pops is actually an awesome player.

When did anyone say they weren’t?

[Farkran]

alchemist why are you aligning pops and kerset for specifically the reason why you should disalign them?

Because it’s actually a reason to align them and not disalign them.

Scumpartners do not play along like that... do you know the history of pops and kerset together?

Prior games? No. And as I said before, Kerset waffled on his pops read which read like scum who didn’t want to form a definite stance on their buddy. When scum is like that but feel pressured into forming a stance on them they can get tripped up like that.

They have a very high mutual respect, based on my knowledge of their history together. However, pops is the more experienced and in my opinion better player (especially as town) - kerset reads need some improving, and that's why he parked his vote on severa imo.

Pops can take advantage of that by pocketing or mislynching him anytime, knowing that kerset is actually extremely easy to read in lylo.