Mini 2106 - Magia Record Fate Weave Semi-U-Pick (OVER!)

[Severa]

It's amazing to me that you seem completely unable to deal with simple hypotheticals.

If Pops flips scum, do we lynch Salamance or Kerset first?
If Pops flips town, who's next on your list

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[Severa]

spooky

i'm gonna run away

[Bitmap]

VOTE: Pops

[popsofctown]

I think that's L-1? I can claim but pls no hammer before I post my Ling and Venus

[Alchemist21]

because he says he thinks that kerset is a strong scum role whereas they were fine having pops get lynched. not at all sure how much sense that makes in the context of the actual game but if it did make sense the logic does apply.

Yeah, so... alchemist has two thirds of a gamesolve in his mind but he wants to lynch the stronger role in the scumteam to prevent the apocalypse kerset is causing n1 thanks to his overly awesome powers that do not even cost mp to use,

before we lynch him d2?

Alchemist, please explain this to me, i don't think severa read properly into your mind, because it doesn't make a lot of sense really

(@severa i know you weren't being serious)

Severa has it right, I want to lynch the scum I think has the stronger role.

The part I bolded in your post is based on a flawed assumption that because we lynch one of them today and they flip scum means we’ll lynch the other D2. D2 wagons usually wildly vary from what one would expect at the end of D2 because after another 2 weeks new stuff happens and peoples’ reads change. I don’t have a lot of faith in Town’s ability to 1-2 combo scum.

[Evenstar]

Cool, that means I can and should do this:
VOTE: Severa

[Evenstar]

I think that's L-1? I can claim but pls no hammer before I post my Ling and Venus

Yeah, you should probably claim.

[popsofctown]

Cool, that means I can and should do this:
VOTE: Severa

I assume this is for my waifus and I appreciate it
I'm Sayaka Miki, my night action is a bodyguard. At 100 mana my superdisc protects both my target and myself instead of being a bodyguard. I also have a memoria that says my actions can't be disrupted by roleblock, only if the person I'm targeting has an effect on themselves like ascetic.

[Evenstar]

@Farkran: Probably a good idea to claim as well.

[popsofctown]

wtf?
Farkran, do not do that
I guess this is some kind of thing from MU, but like... that's not optimal play at all Eva.

[Salamence20]

Dayvig me and put me out of my fucking misery

[Salamence20]

Leave The D

- oh wait

[Evenstar]

Pops ought never to be lynched today; if she's town she has multiple chances to die a heroic death for somebody else, and thereby be cleared.

[Evenstar]

Therefore we should look at the counterwagon. Not voting there because I don't want to put it in hammer range, but it is standard procedure to claim at L-1, yes?

[Severa]

I don't think it should be this hard for you to empathize with the position of I know some things some of the time but I don't know all things all of the time and it's a lot easier to produce a read as scum under pressure than it is for town to magically figure out stuff I don't know.

[Severa]

Especially when it should be somewhat obvious that I'm enjoying my FE a lot more than I'm enjoying sifting through this game thread.

[Evenstar]

Especially when it should be somewhat obvious that I'm enjoying my FE a lot more than I'm enjoying sifting through this game thread.

Fair enough.

[Severa]

I don't choose what I get to know.

I just know some things and I don't know others and I try to bridge the things I know together and come up with a solution

[Farkran]

Severa has it right, I want to lynch the scum I think has the stronger role.

The part I bolded in your post is based on a flawed assumption that because we lynch one of them today and they flip scum means we’ll lynch the other D2. D2 wagons usually wildly vary from what one would expect at the end of D2 because after another 2 weeks new stuff happens and peoples’ reads change. I don’t have a lot of faith in Town’s ability to 1-2 combo scum.

So, you were not willing to jump onto your scumread not because you are unsure of either, but because you're so much certain that they're scum together that you also know who got the stronger role.

I am... not sure from which alignment does this come from, but i think i do not sort you before pops. If you were scum and pops was town, you had a very good progression on her and the perfect opportunity to cast your vote on her without looking scummy, so i can't think of you as scum unless pops is also scum.

Telling some huge bs might work to get away with your coasting me vs pops since you couldn't randomly jump on me.

[Farkran]

Speaking of which,

@pops what's the flavor name or your night ability? What's the name of your magia? What's your disc distribution? Why did you pick a charge disc?

[Severa]

I will say

It's striking that there was no counterwagon to Kerset

But there has been a ton of resistance to Pops

So level 0 reasoning says we go for someone who went for both but derailed onto Kerset but I'm not entirely sure I think that scum game plan was not to bus pops here, like I think it's possible that this is another dumbass baton pass situation where I'm sitting on a bunch of correct scumreads that scum aren't really contesting and town are making the coungerwagons

I think that if pops flips scum I essentially ignore associatives and start over looking for the scummiest player in a vacuum

[Salamence20]

Severa has it right, I want to lynch the scum I think has the stronger role.

The part I bolded in your post is based on a flawed assumption that because we lynch one of them today and they flip scum means we’ll lynch the other D2. D2 wagons usually wildly vary from what one would expect at the end of D2 because after another 2 weeks new stuff happens and peoples’ reads change. I don’t have a lot of faith in Town’s ability to 1-2 combo scum.

So, you were not willing to jump onto your scumread not because you are unsure of either, but because you're so much certain that they're scum together that you also know who got the stronger role.

I am... not sure from which alignment does this come from, but i think i do not sort you before pops. If you were scum and pops was town, you had a very good progression on her and the perfect opportunity to cast your vote on her without looking scummy, so i can't think of you as scum unless pops is also scum.

Telling some huge bs might work to get away with your coasting me vs pops since you couldn't randomly jump on me.

It is interesting alch didnt vote for pops, ngl.

Speaking of which,

@pops what's the flavor name or your night ability? What's the name of your magia? What's your disc distribution? Why did you pick a charge disc?

Why do the latter two questions matter? Especially the last one?

[Farkran]

Pops ought never to be lynched today; if she's town she has multiple chances to die a heroic death for somebody else, and thereby be cleared.

What makes you believe we should let pops survive the day? BG is not a confirmable role until used. It is a very strong one and losing would be very bad, but i think that's also something scum!pops would plan before claiming.

Not saying it's 100% bs, just wondering what made you immediately wanting to shut off her wagon as opposed to verify that. I wonder what you would do if i claimed cop.

[Severa]

Like that kind of cw no cw reasoning exists and is usable and is right a large amount of the time and points to Kerset town and counterwagoners scum but I think it's a lower percentage way to develop reads (in this case bc I don't have like a strong feeling about wagon composition) than simply lynching whoever I think is scummiest tomorrow

[Severa]

Cool, that means I can and should do this:
VOTE: Severa

I assume this is for my waifus and I appreciate it
I'm Sayaka Miki, my night action is a bodyguard. At 100 mana my superdisc protects both my target and myself instead of being a bodyguard. I also have a memoria that says my actions can't be disrupted by roleblock, only if the person I'm targeting has an effect on themselves like ascetic.

We already have a bodyguard claim in my hood ftr