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[alimdia]

I mean you have a modifier that says you can't use it to roleblock scum basically. And you use it on Eibirn?

Anyway, does this mean we are stopping the claim?

[Montosh]

Eve replaces Zote the Mighty

VC 4.0

Eve (1):

Elements

Elbirn (1):

profii

Wake88 (1):

Elbirn

Not voting (5):

UltimatePlank, Eve, Saladman27, Wake88, alimdia

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2019-12-09 02:15:00)

[Montosh]

I mean you have a modifier that says you can't use it to roleblock scum basically. And you use it on Eibirn?

Anyway, does this mean we are stopping the claim?

How dare you take my pagetop!

[Wake1]

There is a side of me that thinks you must be town if you didnt know what loyal was.

Obviously you targetted me to try and stop a NK, which, ok there was no NK, but if your claim is legit either you protected my by accident.

In truth I did not know what 'Loyal' was, and I did target you because I suspected you, and knew that if a kill happened elsewhere while I jailed you then that, in my mind, would've cleared you as confirmed Town.

And then continued to tell people to claim which is not at all what the popcorn idea was

I can understand that. I felt that after passing the popcorn to Profii he was resisting, so I wanted results and passed it to Plank instead.

Zote, Elements, Salad, Elbirn, and Plank.

You all need to contribute.

You posted this at ~4AM, I was asleep, bite my big toe

Also wake does not get to decide we're mass claiming

Also also Wake Jailkept his scumread and his very next post was feigned confusion over a No kill, even though the most natural town-conclusion would be that he blocked it, ergo he lies

VOTE: Wake88

I don't believe I told everyone to mass-claim. Did I?

I did jailkeep my Scumread. And I was confused as to why there was no kill Night 3, and that was before I realized what the 'Loyal' modifier was. I neither lied nor feigned anything.

Zote the Mighty has requested replacement

I don't like this.

Actually it's obviously Elbirn, let's not wait.

VOTE: Elbirn

He was on the looker wagon but dropped off because Saudade asked him to- Saudade probably asked because he was tunnelling wake and Elbirn couldnt give a convincing excuse.

Then there was no kill, Ali was clearly pushing looker hard and that makes him obviously town - scum can't have an obvious town so he was an obvious choice to remove, so it makes sense that he got protected. Then if you look through the ISO of Elbirn and me together, you can see I suggested I might have protected Elbirn and Elbirn was like woah dont out that you are the doctor.

Then another no kill - Elbirn probably tried to kill me and the real doctor probably just protected me

Then another no kill - I got protected by Wake basically, and I guess Elbirn really thinks Im the doctor and tried to kill me again.

I'm not saying I am the doctor, or not, I mean, I've claimed cop on day 1 before and survived a hella long time in a multiball setup so it's possible - think what you like.

You also have to consider that Elbirn said "Profii is town" pretty much as bluntly as that - I accused Elbirn of being scum straight after the N1 flip and Elbirn did the whole LAMIST thing of 'woah keep quiet doc'

So given that he knows i suspect him I guess he is trying to pocket me by just declaring me town so I leave him alone.



Finally go look at Elbirns reasons for being on the Saudade/Vortuka wagons - need I say more?
Also consider that he has obviously identified Wake as a town player that perhaps goes against the grain, at least certainly irritates me, so that is a town weakness he can exploit and he is straight on the wagon today.



VOTE: Elbirn

I really want to think you're Town; my gut is telling me otherwise. If Elbirn were to flip Town I would ask the rest of Town to focus scrutiny on you.

Being wrong doesn't necessarily make one Scum. Elbirn being wrong about Saudade doesn't make him Scum, but his reason for voting me does feel contrived. I don't know if Wimy has replace out as Scum before, or how common in general that is. The only reason I was hesitant to vote Elbirn is because in general I think replace-outs are done by Town. But I do understand Scum

could

replace out, but how likely is it? Besides that, nothing else really protects him from scrutiny.

Alimdia, how many games as Scum have you completed?

The thing is profii, so far if you look at all the claims, there is no full powered PR role that acts every night. You get what I'm saying?


By the way, the reason why I wanted a mass claim was to see if anyone was a N3 powerrole as well.

Were you referring to me?

I have never been scum @wake88

I don't even remember the last time I was Scum. It's probably been at least 2 years.

Zote, Elements, Salad, Elbirn, and Plank.

You all need to contribute.

You posted this at ~4AM, I was asleep, bite my big toe

Also wake does not get to decide we're mass claiming

Also also Wake Jailkept his scumread and his very next post was feigned confusion over a No kill, even though the most natural town-conclusion would be that he blocked it, ergo he lies

VOTE: Wake88

thing is

this post makes more sense to me than that elbirn is scum

but i think it might be overzealous and we aren't making progress in our consensus here. i don't like that Wake initially had a lynch pool of 'vorkuta/salad/elements/saudade/saladman' but now he's switched to elbirn suddenly

what happened to the other 2 wake and why is elbirn suddenly not just suspicious, but your strongest scumread?

does saladman/elements' play not bother you more? what reason do you have to scumread elbirn over those 2?

I switched to Elbirn because, as mentioned earlier, I find his reason for voting me to be contrived and out of the blue, and not in line with any of his past posts.

As for Salad and Elements (and Vorkuta/Zote) I feel they need to contribute more. I feel like it's only a handful of us actually engaging now. After Day 1 I become far more active.

I mean you have a modifier that says you can't use it to roleblock scum basically. And you use it on Eibirn?

Anyway, does this mean we are stopping the claim?

Looks like it.

[Wake1]

I mean you have a modifier that says you can't use it to roleblock scum basically. And you use it on Eibirn?

Is this referring to me?

I used my ability on Profii, not Elbirn.

[profii]

Wake if your gut thinks I'm scum why did I vote looker after the first looker started to die? Why didn't I ignore it and let the wagon go elsewhere

[Wake1]

Wake if your gut thinks I'm scum why did I vote looker after the first looker started to die? Why didn't I ignore it and let the wagon go elsewhere

Fair point.

[Wake1]

I'm inclined to pressure Elbirn today.

[profii]

that should have said "first looker wagon started to die" but hey ho

[Eve]

Hi everyone

That's too many pages to catchup on so if someone filled me in that would be great

[Eve]

Like knowing what people have claimed and stuff would be helpful

[profii]

01. Zote the Mighty
02. Elements
03. UltimatePlank

Vanilla Townie

*
04. Elbirn
05. Saladman27
06. Saudade

Even-Night Tracker

07. Vorkuta

Night 1 Watcher

08. profii
09. Wake88

Night 3 Loyal Jailkeeper

*
10. Looker

Multitasking Novice Rolecop

11. alimdia

*Claimed

Claims

[profii]

Due to an unintentional reveal, this is setup information is being given to all players. This was the only information revealed.

25. Mafia have daytalk and

2 members

.

Worth noting

[profii]

Game narrative- alimdia pushed looker hard day 1 so the feeling is he is likely town

Vortuka was lurking quite a lot so he got lynched and then we rush lynched saudade for trolling basically

For an unexplained reasons scum haven't been able to make a night kill

[Eve]

Ok thanks

So scum have 2 members and one is dead so one left and they can't kill anyone? Or maybe a doctor has got very lucky with saves

Doesn't really sound balanced

[Eve]

Who did Wake jailkeep on night 3? That could've stopped a kill

[Eve]

Huh why am I voting for Wake

,VOTE: ElbirnVOTE:

[Eve]

VOTE: Elbirn

[profii]

It's worth noting a lot of the flips have had modifiers to reduce their usage so I dunno if a doc would be acting every night

Wake also claimed Loyal after his initial claim and claimed to JK me on N3 so I'm hoping he protected me if anything

[alimdia]

Alright fellas

I'm a Town Night 3 _______

I was thinking it soft-counter-claims Wake's role by having 2 Night 3 PRs? Not so sure anyone though. I don't have any useful results so will not claim the rest of my role.

[Elbirn]

Eve replaces Zote the Mighty

VC 4.0

Eve (1):

Elements

Elbirn (1):

profii

Wake88 (1):

Eve

Not voting (5):

UltimatePlank, Elbirn, Saladman27, Wake88, alimdia

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2019-12-09 02:15:00)

Hey Montosh I'm voting wake, not eve. Lots of E names, ez mistake

I'm not around to really play at the moment need to go grocery shopping. But I skimmed profi's post and he's still wrong town, wake tells lies and his lynch pool is, notably, now every single player in the game. Alimdia being a N3 ____ also means wake is lying about his role. Uhh hello Eve. Okay I think that about covers it

[Wake1]

Eve replaces Zote the Mighty

VC 4.0

Eve (1):

Elements

Elbirn (1):

profii

Wake88 (1):

Eve

Not voting (5):

UltimatePlank, Elbirn, Saladman27, Wake88, alimdia

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2019-12-09 02:15:00)

Hey Montosh I'm voting wake, not eve. Lots of E names, ez mistake

I'm not around to really play at the moment need to go grocery shopping. But I skimmed profi's post and he's still wrong town, wake tells lies and his lynch pool is, notably, now every single player in the game. Alimdia being a N3 ____ also means wake is lying about his role. Uhh hello Eve. Okay I think that about covers it

Yeah, this is Scum.

VOTE: Elbirn

[alimdia]

Interesting ignoring of my post wake

[Eve]

Alright fellas

I'm a Town Night 3 _______

I was thinking it soft-counter-claims Wake's role by having 2 Night 3 PRs? Not so sure anyone though. I don't have any useful results so will not claim the rest of my role.

Is there any reason to not claim the rest of your role?

[Eve]

It's worth noting a lot of the flips have had modifiers to reduce their usage so I dunno if a doc would be acting every night

Wake also claimed Loyal after his initial claim and claimed to JK me on N3 so I'm hoping he protected me if anything

What does loyal mean?